UNSC passes resolution demanding end to Israel Settlement building on occupied land
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I am not following what you are saying about the kidnapping. As far as I know, the kidnappings happened, Israel exacted close to 100 lives to go after the kidnappers, then proceeded to launch a bombing campaign that killed thousands to satisfy their blood lust. Hamas started to increased rocket attacks as a direct response to the bombing. It was the Israeli bombing that preceeded the large spikes in rocket attacks, not the other way around.Hamas kidnapping Israeli kids was an Israeli attack? News to me.
Hamas is not getting out of the rocket business. They are rearming. If you ended the Gaza blockade they would import advanced Iranian missiles and start more kidnappings.
Your glorification of Hamas is disgusting.
The rocket attacks is one of the strawmen that is put up by Israel to deflect criticism, it seems even the lack of rocket attacks is now being put up as a strawman.
When did I glorify hamas? If me saying that Hamas is a castrated paper tiger, and now they finally pulled their head out of their ass and realized that rocket attacks do not amount to shit is glorifying them, then I suppose you are correct.
That's an incredibly bigoted and hostile view. Really pretty disgusting. Shame on you.I am not following what you are saying about the kidnapping. As far as I know, the kidnappings happened, Israel exacted close to 100 lives to go after the kidnappers, then proceeded to launch a bombing campaign that killed thousands to satisfy their blood lust.
False.Hamas started to increased rocket attacks as a direct response to the bombing.
First, Hamas had never stopped firing rockets at Israel. Every single rocket fired by Hamas justifies invading Gaza. Every one. Hamas fires those rockets at Israeli civilians.
Second, the "spike" in rocket fire (as if the regular daily salvo was acceptable) followed the IDF searches for the kidnapped kids in the West Bank. The searches resulted in confrontations between IDF and Palestinian militants and every time a militant got killed during a search for the kids (or their bodies) Hamas fired more rockets. Israel then targeted the commander's ordering the rocket fire and the conflict erupted full scale: more or less orchestrated by Hamas, who thought their tunnels eye ready and would give them an advantage.
It all started with the kidnapping by Hamas.
That's just repulsive. Let somebody fire rockets at your children then see if you think it's a "straw man".The rocket attacks is one of the strawmen that is put up by Israel to deflect criticism
Clearly you think violence against Jews is acceptable and that Israel should just accept it. Maybe you think Jews should line up to be shot.
Your post is offensive.
Number of people killed by violence:
----------------------Israelis-------------Palestinians
2006.....................23........................665
2007.....................19........................385
2008.....................35........................887
2009......................9.......................1034
2010......................8..........................70
2011………………….11………..……….…..118
2012…………………..0…………………………74
----------------------Israelis-------------Palestinians
2006.....................23........................665
2007.....................19........................385
2008.....................35........................887
2009......................9.......................1034
2010......................8..........................70
2011………………….11………..……….…..118
2012…………………..0…………………………74
Go take a look at how many deaths per year in Israel is due to rocket attacks, auto accidents and 2nd hand smoking kills more people in Israel than rocket attacks. Tell me that rocket attacks are not a strawman.That's an incredibly bigoted and hostile view. Really pretty disgusting. Shame on you.
False.
First, Hamas had never stopped firing rockets at Israel. Every single rocket fired by Hamas justifies invading Gaza. Every one. Hamas fires those rockets at Israeli civilians.
Second, the "spike" in rocket fire (as if the regular daily salvo was acceptable) followed the IDF searches for the kidnapped kids in the West Bank. The searches resulted in confrontations between IDF and Palestinian militants and every time a militant got killed during a search for the kids (or their bodies) Hamas fired more rockets. Israel then targeted the commander's ordering the rocket fire and the conflict erupted full scale: more or less orchestrated by Hamas, who thought their tunnels eye ready and would give them an advantage.
It all started with the kidnapping by Hamas.
That's just repulsive. Let somebody fire rockets at your children then see if you think it's a "straw man".
Clearly you think violence against Jews is acceptable and that Israel should just accept it. Maybe you think Jews should line up to be shot.
Your post is offensive.
If Israel had any real fear of rocket attacks, it would do what every fucking sensible country would fucking do in the same situation, have a fucking DMZ between Israel and the palestenians. These are homemade rockets, you just need a DMZ of a few km and most of them would not reach Israel. Israel expands their settlements towards the palestinians, this illustrates how much Israel sees rocket attacks as a threat.
Here you show your true colors, again claiming that Israel should just accept being the victim of Hamas rocket attacks.
Disgusting.
There isn't enough land in Gaza to create a DMZ. What Israel did do is build the Iron Dome system. Hamas responded to that by using construction materials meant for water systems to dig a network of tunnels into Israel.
Disgusting.
There isn't enough land in Gaza to create a DMZ. What Israel did do is build the Iron Dome system. Hamas responded to that by using construction materials meant for water systems to dig a network of tunnels into Israel.
Of course you think throwing stones at security forces is acceptable too. In any other country that would be called assault with a weapon.Disgusting to me is your defense of Israeli soldiers shooting kids for throwing stones.
But you think it's OK so long as it's a Jew being stoned, stabbed, firebombed, or shot.
Just like you think it's OK to fire rockets at Jews. Just like you think the Jews were totally out of line searching for their abducted children.
Capital punishment for children is not acceptable even for capital crimes, and throwing stones is not a capital crime.Of course you think throwing stones at security forces is acceptable too. In any other country that would be called assault with a weapon.
But you think it's OK so long as it's a Jew being stoned, stabbed, firebombed, or shot.
Just like you think it's OK to fire rockets at Jews. Just like you think the Jews were totally out of line searching for their abducted children.
You are advocating capital punishment for children committing non capital crimes.
Returning fire at an armed assailant is not capital punishment. It's self defence. And these assaults are not only committed with stones, but also Molotov cocktails and knives.Capital punishment for children is not acceptable even for capital crimes, and throwing stones is not a capital crime.
You are advocating capital punishment for children committing non capital crimes.
I also see you have no words of criticism for Palestinians using their children as child soldiers, sending them out to attack military positions.
Hamas kidnapping Israeli kids was an Israeli attack? News to me.
Hamas is not getting out of the rocket business. They are rearming. If you ended the Gaza blockade they would import advanced Iranian missiles and start more kidnappings.
Your glorification of Hamas is disgusting.
How about the jews that kidnapped an Arab kid, forced gasoline down his throat and burned him alive? Nice people!!!
That is why Israel has not eliminated Hamas when opportunities presented themselves.Hamas is indeed to blame. Peace could have been achieved decades ago if it weren't for Hamas.
He never said this phrase or anything that resembles it. It is a bald faced LIE you have written there.... You should read the news instead of relying on echo chambers. He said there will be no peace under his watch as long as Islamist terrorists hold power. Considering those Islmaist terrorists in Hamas and in Fatah's armed wing (among others) proudly promise to never even negotiate with Israel, he's likely correct.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-no-palestinian-state-under-my-watch/
Nonsense and lies, he did not limit it to this term. He limited it to "his watch" which means as long as he is in power. You said he is ready to negotiate. And you just admitted your previous statement was absolute RUBBISH. Also Israel has said it will NOT ATTEND a French sponsored conference to discuss conditions to restart the peace process. Once again proving THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN PEACE.Only in the present term, because in that timeframe it would be Hamastan. You are leaving that bit off what he said off because you are a dishonest anti-Semite and you are incapable of argument that is honest.
He has said that he supports a two state solution provided that the Palestinians renounce terrorism.
He has also correctly pointed out that isn't realistically going to happen during the next few years.
Abbas could certainly come and negotiate though and maybe Abbas has some way to guarantee Hamas is eliminated before the state forms.
Certainly a roadmap towards that goal could be discussed as you yourself suggested but Abbas wont talk.
You're just lying your face off now. Netanyahu was very clear in what he said, you are intentionally only quoting a fragment in order to lie and incite hatred.Nonsense and lies, he did not limit it to this term. He limited it to "his watch" which means as long as he is in power. You said he is ready to negotiate. And you just admitted your previous statement was absolute RUBBISH. Also Israel has said it will NOT ATTEND a French sponsored conference to discuss conditions to restart the peace process. Once again proving THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN PEACE.
He has always been opposed to what he used to call a "PLO State" and what he now calls "Hamastan". He has always said that he supports a two state solution. He has always said that he will oppose the creation of a Palestinian state until the Palestinians renounce terror and disarm the terrorists. He has more recently and very clearly said that he sees no prospect of that happening during his term in office and therefore there will be no Palestinian state while he is in office.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-situation-not-ripe-for-two-state-solution/
The pattern on this board is very clear: anti-Israeli posters like you, Gryfin, frank, and GoWest just lie in order to incite hatred. None of you have ever advanced honest arguments. It's very, very rare to find someone who supports the Palestinian cause who argues in an honest way.
Because it would require an invasion of Gaza that would result in an enormous loss of life, and pieces of work like you would shriek about how evil Israel was for doing it.That is why Israel has not eliminated Hamas when opportunities presented themselves.
Hamas is severely to blame for the lack of peace since they have used terrorism to derail peace talks since their formation. They openly state they will never accept a permanent peace with Israel and as long as they are a major political force they will get their way.Typical of you to blame 50 years of occupation and colonization on Hamas.
And very sad.
Before Hamas, the PLO stated their official position was a refusal to make peace with Israel. before that the Arab League position was refusal to make peace with Israel. Before that the Arab/Palestinian leadership chose war instead of living alongside Israel.
I see. Hamas terror attacks are okay because they don't kill too many people. Fuck that is a disgusting statement.Go take a look at how many deaths per year in Israel is due to rocket attacks,....
Let's see. The most basic Hamas rockets have a range of 10 km. The two stage fajr-5 rocket used by Hamas since 2012 has a range of 190 kmIf Israel had any real fear of rocket attacks, it would do what every fucking sensible country would fucking do in the same situation, have a fucking DMZ between Israel and the palestenians.
The distance from Gaza to the furthest parts of Israel is not much over 200 km and the vast majority of Israel's population is within 20 km of the West Bank.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...aza_(en).png/220px-Rockets_from_gaza_(en).png
I guess your DMZ idea is more than a bit farcical.
Can you find a single person here who wasn't disgusted by that attack? Even Netanyahu harshly condemned it.How about the jews that kidnapped an Arab kid, forced gasoline down his throat and burned him alive? Nice people!!!
Same can't be said for the Hamas kidnapping/murder that inspired that murder.
I would love you to explain how Israel is supposed to accomplish this without a massive death toll?That is why Israel has not eliminated Hamas when opportunities presented themselves.
