I'm one of those fans you referred to, as some might agree, but when they're wrong they're wrong.
Russel Crowe's comment were 50/50, but considering who said them, he's not so lily white himself, I take them sort of as ya that nice..
Vancouver police go to wrong address and beat an innocent man
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Russel Crowe's comment were 50/50, but considering who said them, he's not so lily white himself, I take them sort of as ya that nice..
Gotta think this was supposed to be a bit of street justice, cops teaching a wife-beater a lesson, nothing to do with resisting arrest.
That picture was nasty. He's got broken bones around his eye. Back in the good old days, they knew how to fuck a guy up withoug leaving marks.
He would have been better off getting Tased.
Same shit everywhere.... I remember I got in a fight in a night club (Club Exit) once in Niagara Falls NY...... Big mistake! First the 3 bouncers come running to break the fight up. They were fucking monsters on roids!!! First i got a boot in the chest, then I got pounded while being dragged out the back door. finally while lying on the ground, quite hurt, boot to the face..... So then the cops came round back of the club and I got to spend a night at the station. Let me tell you, they don't care about the phone book technique when you booked for fighting in the club. I got a nice punch round the back of my head while cuffed. Kept saying, how you like fighting now tough guy!
That has been my only bad experience with the police.... I figured at the time it was because they were American, and i was a drunk Canadian. While I don't think that is what the majority of cops are like, the ones who are should be sent to prison!
Cheers!
That has been my only bad experience with the police.... I figured at the time it was because they were American, and i was a drunk Canadian. While I don't think that is what the majority of cops are like, the ones who are should be sent to prison!
Cheers!
And that's the crux of it. I have NO problems with cops who do their jobs - serve and protect - but have no time, patience or sympathy for those that break the laws they've been sworn to uphold. I just don't want a bunch of under-educated bullies deciding that they are the law. The law is the law - cops are the public servants who enforce part of it. When it skews the other way and cops take the law into their own hands, we descend down a slippery slope to militaristic dictatorships. Apparently there are some that don't care if cops act like judge, jury and executioners - but from my POV, the heart of our society lies in our civil liberties, not in a police state.
Although I don't consider myself such, at the same time police are often not given the benefit of the doubt on TERB, that said there are incidents where from what any of us here on TERB know, there is more than one way to view the issue. However, from what we thus far know this does not appear to be one of them.
Heck just this week video came out showing a NY City cop punching a guy who was in handcuffs...no it wasn't a police car video camera but somebody walking on by I believe.
The only problem is that none of the statement is by Russell Crowe at all.Russell Crowe speaks out on Vancouver police beating.
The story is reaching outside our village of Canada.
The only thing having anything to do with him is the photograph, the rest of his supposed statement is actually the comment of Christopher L. Cook writing in The Pacific Free Press http://www.pacificfreepress.com/new...ke-again-another-citizen-takes-a-beating.html
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Here's another recent instance of police making a mistake. This time it wasn't a wrong address though. What made the Vancouver incident stand out was: A) They went to the wrong address and beat some guy who was clueless as to why they were even there and B) the fact that they beat him as soon as he opened the door would tend to imply that their SOP as regards DV is to show up and beat the offender as soon as he opens the door.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/01/22/pennsylvania.arrest.dispute/index.html?hpt=T2
(CNN) -- An arrest in which several punches were thrown has triggered an accusation of brutality against Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, police from the mother of the 18-year-old honor student who was taken into custody.
Police, in a criminal complaint on the incident, say "closed fist strikes" were used by the undercover police officers, but only to subdue the teenager as he tried to get away.
His mother said she plans to file a civil rights claim against the officers.
Terez Miles said her son, Jordan Miles, who is black, thought his life was in jeopardy when three white men jumped out of a car on the night of January 11 as he walked not far from his home.
"My son tried to run thinking his life was in jeopardy," Terez Miles said. "He made three steps before he slipped and fell." After that, she said, the police used a stun gun and beat him, pulling out a chunk of his hair.
The case is being investigated, [the Pittsburgh mayor is] closely monitoring it. He's met with the chief.
--Joanna Doven, Pittsburgh press secretary
The criminal complaint says the officers, considering Jordan Miles' appearance suspicious, got out of the car and identified themselves as police. He tried to flee, fell, and then struggled to escape.
The officers "delivered 2-3 closed fist strikes to Miles' head/face with still no effect," and then a "knee strike to Miles' head causing him to momentarily stop resisting," so that he could be handcuffed, the document says.
Miles' mother said the officers did not identify themselves as police to her son, a viola player and student at the city's Creative and Performing Arts High School.
The complaint says the police officers believed Miles was engaged in criminal activity and possibly armed with a "large heavy object." The object turned out to be a bottle of Mountain Dew.
Miles was charged with aggravated assault, loitering, resisting arrest and escape.
A hearing in the case was scheduled for Thursday, but it was unclear whether the officers involved showed up, said Miles' attorney, Kerry Lewis. The judge postponed the case until February 18.
Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl is "taking this very seriously," said his press secretary, Joanna Doven. "The case is being investigated, he's closely monitoring it. He's met with the chief."
The three officers were taken off plainclothes duty and were back in uniform, she said.
Terez Miles contends the officers used too much force.
"My son is 150 pounds and 5-foot-6. There's no need for this degree of violence and brutality for someone of this stature," she said.
Lewis said Jordan Miles has no criminal record.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/01/22/pennsylvania.arrest.dispute/index.html?hpt=T2
(CNN) -- An arrest in which several punches were thrown has triggered an accusation of brutality against Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, police from the mother of the 18-year-old honor student who was taken into custody.
Police, in a criminal complaint on the incident, say "closed fist strikes" were used by the undercover police officers, but only to subdue the teenager as he tried to get away.
His mother said she plans to file a civil rights claim against the officers.
Terez Miles said her son, Jordan Miles, who is black, thought his life was in jeopardy when three white men jumped out of a car on the night of January 11 as he walked not far from his home.
"My son tried to run thinking his life was in jeopardy," Terez Miles said. "He made three steps before he slipped and fell." After that, she said, the police used a stun gun and beat him, pulling out a chunk of his hair.
The case is being investigated, [the Pittsburgh mayor is] closely monitoring it. He's met with the chief.
--Joanna Doven, Pittsburgh press secretary
The criminal complaint says the officers, considering Jordan Miles' appearance suspicious, got out of the car and identified themselves as police. He tried to flee, fell, and then struggled to escape.
The officers "delivered 2-3 closed fist strikes to Miles' head/face with still no effect," and then a "knee strike to Miles' head causing him to momentarily stop resisting," so that he could be handcuffed, the document says.
Miles' mother said the officers did not identify themselves as police to her son, a viola player and student at the city's Creative and Performing Arts High School.
The complaint says the police officers believed Miles was engaged in criminal activity and possibly armed with a "large heavy object." The object turned out to be a bottle of Mountain Dew.
Miles was charged with aggravated assault, loitering, resisting arrest and escape.
A hearing in the case was scheduled for Thursday, but it was unclear whether the officers involved showed up, said Miles' attorney, Kerry Lewis. The judge postponed the case until February 18.
Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl is "taking this very seriously," said his press secretary, Joanna Doven. "The case is being investigated, he's closely monitoring it. He's met with the chief."
The three officers were taken off plainclothes duty and were back in uniform, she said.
Terez Miles contends the officers used too much force.
"My son is 150 pounds and 5-foot-6. There's no need for this degree of violence and brutality for someone of this stature," she said.
Lewis said Jordan Miles has no criminal record.
In parts of the UK the police will be having a tamper poof video camera on their uniforms to record everything that goes on.
Why just over there, why not for every police officer? After all it will put an end to all these phony abuse claims (why the UK is doing it)
Why just over there, why not for every police officer? After all it will put an end to all these phony abuse claims (why the UK is doing it)
Norfolk Police focus on benefits of new body-worn video camera
Police officers in Norfolk are wearing state-of-the-art body-worn video cameras as the latest initiative to prevent crime and provide vital evidence for the courts.
The innovative video recorders are proving extremely popular with officers following a trial which showed their deployment has helped lead to a reduction in crime.
The constabulary has so far bought more than 20 VEEcamÒ cameras from Bristol-based technology specialist Persides, with plans to purchase more in the future. The VEEcamÒ – Video for Extreme Environments – is capable of gathering video or stills surveillance and is also ideal for gathering overt and covert intelligence for organisations which require the ability to reliably record skip-free, high-quality video images.
Norfolk Police selected VEEcamÒ after trialling seven different versions of body-worn cameras. Inspector Nick Russell said: “Extensive trials have taken place over the last 18 months to get the right equipment that is fit for purpose.
“I welcome the introduction of this new tool for police in Norfolk. Officers will be able to record the details of any situation they may be faced with. We are required to let the person concerned know that we are recording, and then the officer can just let the device run.”
Inspector Russell added: “The evidence we can gather on these cameras will help to convict criminals and deter potential criminals, or those carrying out anti-social behaviour, which then has a knock-on effect in making our communities safer. They are proven to be very successful elsewhere, which we are looking to replicate here in Norfolk.
“I anticipate that body-worn video will soon be a regular sight on the streets of Norfolk and hope that they will be a good deterrent and make people behave once they realise officers are wearing them.”
Inspector Russell said the cameras can also take some of the stress out of police work by helping to reduce malicious allegations made against officers.
Persides Managing Director Mark Cook said: “Body-worn cameras are becoming hugely popular particularly in the fight against crime and in military operations. Certainly there is evidence to demonstrate that in areas where these cameras are deployed, the crime rate drops and they have proved a critical aid in helping to secure successful prosecutions.”
VEEcamÒ is undergoing extensive user trials with other police authorities in the UK as well as fire and rescue services and British Transport Police.
The unique and robust VEEcamÒ, created by electronics systems and software specialists Persides, is also being used by military and security operatives working in some of the world’s most dangerous hotspots.
The highly durable VEEcamÒ system, which is waterproof, shock proof and resistant to both high and low temperatures, is able to produce quality video and stills photographs that can be replayed or downloaded using an ultra-low power source. Sophisticated, yet extremely easy to operate, VEEcamÒ is currently being used by military personnel operating in Afghanistan.
In military environments VEEcamÒ is capable of gathering surveillance from unattended ground sensors, unmanned air vehicles and dismounted close-combat soldiers. The new technology is also proving popular with extreme sports enthusiasts who crave adrenalin and want to record the action to either re-live the occasion or improve techniques.
Mark Cook added: “We feel there are unlimited opportunities where this kind of equipment can be utilised. Our research and development teams are working with our customers to provide them with bespoke equipment and software programmes to meet their individual requirements. We not only understand the technology but we also have an excellent understanding of areas such as the judicial system and how our equipment can be of benefit. We aim to offer our clients a complete end-to-end solution including training, logistics support and specialist advice.”
13 February 2009
Police officers in Norfolk are wearing state-of-the-art body-worn video cameras as the latest initiative to prevent crime and provide vital evidence for the courts.
The innovative video recorders are proving extremely popular with officers following a trial which showed their deployment has helped lead to a reduction in crime.
The constabulary has so far bought more than 20 VEEcamÒ cameras from Bristol-based technology specialist Persides, with plans to purchase more in the future. The VEEcamÒ – Video for Extreme Environments – is capable of gathering video or stills surveillance and is also ideal for gathering overt and covert intelligence for organisations which require the ability to reliably record skip-free, high-quality video images.
Norfolk Police selected VEEcamÒ after trialling seven different versions of body-worn cameras. Inspector Nick Russell said: “Extensive trials have taken place over the last 18 months to get the right equipment that is fit for purpose.
“I welcome the introduction of this new tool for police in Norfolk. Officers will be able to record the details of any situation they may be faced with. We are required to let the person concerned know that we are recording, and then the officer can just let the device run.”
Inspector Russell added: “The evidence we can gather on these cameras will help to convict criminals and deter potential criminals, or those carrying out anti-social behaviour, which then has a knock-on effect in making our communities safer. They are proven to be very successful elsewhere, which we are looking to replicate here in Norfolk.
“I anticipate that body-worn video will soon be a regular sight on the streets of Norfolk and hope that they will be a good deterrent and make people behave once they realise officers are wearing them.”
Inspector Russell said the cameras can also take some of the stress out of police work by helping to reduce malicious allegations made against officers.
Persides Managing Director Mark Cook said: “Body-worn cameras are becoming hugely popular particularly in the fight against crime and in military operations. Certainly there is evidence to demonstrate that in areas where these cameras are deployed, the crime rate drops and they have proved a critical aid in helping to secure successful prosecutions.”
VEEcamÒ is undergoing extensive user trials with other police authorities in the UK as well as fire and rescue services and British Transport Police.
The unique and robust VEEcamÒ, created by electronics systems and software specialists Persides, is also being used by military and security operatives working in some of the world’s most dangerous hotspots.
The highly durable VEEcamÒ system, which is waterproof, shock proof and resistant to both high and low temperatures, is able to produce quality video and stills photographs that can be replayed or downloaded using an ultra-low power source. Sophisticated, yet extremely easy to operate, VEEcamÒ is currently being used by military personnel operating in Afghanistan.
In military environments VEEcamÒ is capable of gathering surveillance from unattended ground sensors, unmanned air vehicles and dismounted close-combat soldiers. The new technology is also proving popular with extreme sports enthusiasts who crave adrenalin and want to record the action to either re-live the occasion or improve techniques.
Mark Cook added: “We feel there are unlimited opportunities where this kind of equipment can be utilised. Our research and development teams are working with our customers to provide them with bespoke equipment and software programmes to meet their individual requirements. We not only understand the technology but we also have an excellent understanding of areas such as the judicial system and how our equipment can be of benefit. We aim to offer our clients a complete end-to-end solution including training, logistics support and specialist advice.”
13 February 2009
Having police officers wear cameras is a great thing, it is better for innocent people, and for responsible police officers. I assume that the bad officers will quickly figure out how to cover them, but even then, it will reduce their credibility when they claim someone resisted, but the camera happened to be covered. And it should be very effective at eliminating false abuse charges, if they entire interaction is on tape.
