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jk_flip_flop

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What do I do?

Been spending a lot of time searching for answers. Both online and within myself. I need some advice, I`ve already had a large share of it from friends and family, now its time to reach out and look elsewhere. I`ve contemplated just living the rest of my life and let things take its toll, I don`t know anymore.
What will happen once I start treatment? How will I react? How much of it can I take? Should I even bother…..and…..what are my chances?


F*!#Kin CANCER!!


There are a lot of factors to consider. Maybe I should just let it go.
Yet there are so many I want to live for. I don`t want to die…I want to live….I WANT TO LIVE!!!!!

:-(( :-(( :-(( :-(( :-((

Does anyone have any stories to share? Survival stories? Any web sites? Info as to where I can get some information…?
 

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jk_flip_flop:

Very sorry to read you are going through this. Searching for answers is important. For some, dealing with the emotions of cancer is actually harder than coping with the other medical problems.

Most people over 30 would be hard pressed to go through life without having the misfortune of seeing at least one close friend or family member go through something similar.

And hopefully Terb will forgive me for saying this, but I'm guessing, by the responses you recieved in the other thread on this subject, that you will not find what you are seeking here. Moreso you will be called to task for using your predicament to cull sympathy and attention from a profession that, let's face, can only bring you as much as is in the service provider to impart. It's clear you take solice in the comfort some SP's can provide, but I don't think I understand what you mean by opting to die for her to show her how much you love her. To put it delicately, it sounds insane. Please don't neglect whatever psychotherapy is being made available to you.
 

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jk -- I know from personal experience that the mere word strikes terror to the heart. I was lucky and won. All I can say is try and live for each moment, and don't try and dwell on what may lie ahead. Live for something -- become obsessed with something. The Leafs. Playing music. Painting. Whatever. I wish this didn't appear as simplistic as it appears here in print. But don't give up, and lean on family, friends and colleagues. They/we won't mind -- quite the opposite. Best of luck, and feel free to PM me at any time if there's anything I can do to help...
 

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Man, that's tough jk! I wish you all the luck!

One point - you say you want to live. So live. Fight with all your might and decide to live. Make a difference in someone's life. Write your memoirs for posterity's sake. Start learning a new language. But don't give up!!

My uncle was diagnosed with leukemia. It was estimated he would likely die within a year as his condition was quite advanced. That was 2 years ago. He's still weak, but he's living his life as normally as he can. He still goes to work in his store; he's still surrounded by his wife & (now adult) children. He's even contemplating going on vacation next year. He never gave up.
 

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rubmeister100


Thank You! I know have a Cancer 101 reference to pass to friends and family. Your advice is very sound and I have just lost a co-worker to the Big C. I have been thinking about the dis ease a lot lately as it has hit my wife recently. We are post surgical recovery stage. It is amazing to me, that once indestructable I have become an emotional idiot. I can't bear the thought raising my 3 kids without her.

Once again thanx,
Chivas
 

james t kirk

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As a guy who's mom died of pancreatic cancer and who's father currently has lung cancer, i sympathize greatly.

With my mother, there was no hope. There never is with pancreatic cancer.

My father (a long time smoker of 45 years, though he did quit 12 years ago) he is taking treatment. First radiation (not too bad to endure, but limited success) and now chemo (about what you would expect)

I don't know if you have lung cancer or not, but...

There was a very interesting article in the sun about 2 weeks ago that I gave to my dad. The drug is called Iressa and it completely cured a 40 year old woman in Toronto of lung cancer.

Here's the link.....

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/News/2004/02/25/360039.html
 

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rubmeister100 said:
DO NOT JUST TAKE THEIR WORD FOR ANYTHING! Look into things yourself, learn and ask reasonable questions. DEMAND what you think is right. YOU are the only one who has a truly vested interest in your outcome, not the doctor!
I can't emphasize this enough . You have to manage , and I mean manage , your own treatment/cure .

I have first hand knowledge of someone who had the operation to remove a stage 3 tumour and refused the follow up Chemo because of other complications . Took alternative treatments.

Maybe not for everyone but this person is now 3 years cancer free and counting .

Don't give up .
 

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Cantron/Cancell

I usually don't believe in miracle cures, but I know of some people that have tried cantron/cancell and had their cancer cured. It even worked for my uncle's dog.

http://www.cancerchoices.com/cantronresearch1.htm

How it works:


Many researchers are attempting to reverse the anaerobic cell and turn it back to an aerobic cell through the use of nutrients or oxygen or other methods. Mr. Sheridan abandoned this approach believing that malignant cells are irreversible. Sheridan developed a chemical substance whose components combine to act synergistically to lower the voltage of the cell structure of the body. In the case of malignant cells which are anaerobic, their voltage is already low. Sheridan's substance lowers its voltage further.

Recognizing the respiratory cycle of a malignant cell, an electrical blockage is created, taking the cell from the malignant state past the primitive state back to the building block stage where the hydrogen bond joining the coils of the protein helix is shifted. Recent studies have shown that the optimum level is to lower the potential by 20%. When these malignant cells go past the primitive state, they lyse or self-digest. When the malignant cells, self-digest, they change from cancer to waste material, composed of two amino acids that have the appearance of raw white eggs, which are mostly excreted through normal body waste disposal. The cancer cells are subsequently replaced with normal oxygen using (aerobic) cells.
 

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LOVE, FAITH & HOPE

Jk,



I am so deeply sorry JK for this horrible trauma that you are going through. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

I have been fighting my own battle with an illness for over 10 years now and DON'T YOU GIVE UP! DON'T YOU EVER GIVE UP! *wipes tears*
You FIGHT this like you've never fought before and surround yourself with love and support from your family and friends, the rest is in 'God's' hands. (or whatever faith you believe in)

When I was in the hospital back in November for treatment I became so filled with fear because I thought this was it and I thought I couldn't ask 'God' for help now when I've been pissed off at him for so many years and now I wanted him to listen. I was so scared that I looked into my best friends eyes filled with tears and said "Make phone calls, Tell your friends, family, etc. to start praying for me in their prayer groups" and he did, and they did and I'm still here. I'm still sick but I'm here, and I fought for a month in that hospital for my sanity, my life and sometimes when I felt this calmness surround me I knew without a shadow of a doubt it was these people that have never met me that took the time in church, or their prayer groups, or their private prayer time and asked 'God' to watch out for me, and he did.

Jk, I'm going to begin a prayer group for you, with the same kindness and love that was given to me by strangers while I was in the hospital. People that I have never spoken or met before and probably never will, but because I had lost my faith and I was feeling so sure that 'this time' I was not going to make it they opened their hearts that much more. I'm not a preacher, I'm just speaking from what I've been through, what I seen, what I felt and the fact that I am still here.

Once I was released from the hospital I volunteered as a counceller (Moderater) on a Healing Forum where I speak to people that are going through their own life's battles with various illnesses and I still do. If you ever need someone to talk to please feel free to PM, Email or call anytime.

Always remember love, faith & hope is all we really need to have in ourselves to truly live.



Take care of yourself,
Annessa
xoxo
 

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jk: sorry to hear about your problems. As secret-touch stated, I am a survivor and would gladly tell you my story. Hopefully it will help inspire you. Please PM me with your e-mail address, because the story is too long to post here.
 

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There are some organic therapies you may want to try. One of them is taking spores of Reishi mushroom. Here's a website that provides additional info. Good luck.
http://www.eshantang.com/spore.html
 

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Best of luck to ya
 

jk_flip_flop

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Everyone….thank you for the kind words.

I guess I've always been one of the many that always thought that something this devastating could never happen to me. I've always thought my health has been nothing I should be worried about. Being in the military, we do get our regular check ups, in fact, this is how my cancer was discovered. Hopefully in time.

Five months ago, my Commanding Officer found out he had cancer. He was immediately admitted and commenced treatment within 2 weeks. Today he's still kickin and feels ready to return to duty. Docs won't let him.

Mine is of a more serious nature.

I didn't come here to post on this board to gain any type of sympathy, nor am I looking for some type of emotional escape through members of this board. I've been strong all my life and will do my best to stay strong, but its very hard. :-(

I'm here, away from family. Away from the people I care for and love. My plan was to move back to Toronto in the fall, but now I must stay to learn my fate. The military is looking me. I suppose that a good thing. We'll see.

One day, you will log on, and you will never hear from me again. I guess that's true for all of us, but for me, it won't be a choice I can make.

Once again, Thank you for your kind words and the support your offering. I hope to beat this, but it seems so futile.

For now I do my best to live my life. I continue to work, even though I don't have to. I spend as much time as I can with my horses. I have one very special to me, named after someone I care for very much. She's only a yearling, I hope I'm around to finally offer it to her as her own.

I pray every night, and I cry every night. Thank you again.

Hey Al....would love to have a drink with you. Heart of Oak!!

more like

A Broken Heart!!
 

Speedo

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It's never an easy fight, jk, but -- and I can't emphasize this enough -- win each day! Live for your horses, involve as much of your life as you can to them. And that will help keep your attention on the now and away from the "what if's?"

Hang in -- we're cheering for you !
 

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I received an email today about an event this week at the Omega Centre that may be of interest to you, JK:

Special Guest Appearance – Brandon Bays, best-selling author of “The Journey”

Wednesday, March 10 6:30-8:30pm Free Admission!

"Brandon Bays takes her reader on a journey of astounding inspiration." - Deepak Chopra M.D. – Author “Quantum Healing”

Diagnosed with a tumour the size of a small basketball, Brandon was catapulted on a remarkable, soul searching and ultimately freeing healing journey. Only 6 ½ weeks later she was pronounced tumour free, text-book perfect, no drugs – no surgery!!

Join The Omega Centre Bookstore for this exclusive introductory talk based on Brandon Bay’s best-selling book, “The Journey.” www.thejourney.com

"Brandon Bays is a remarkable soul. And her story of healing and reconciliation are a testament to the capabilities of human beings." - Anthony Robbins – Author, "Awaken the Giant Within"

The Omega Centre is on Yorkville just west of Yonge. If you're interested, I would advise calling them and confirming that this is the correct time and date (their emails occasionally have errors). Best of luck.
 

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Many people have survived very serious cancers, and a positive attitude, faith, prayer, taking responsibility and playing an active role in dealing with the disease rather than giving up and accepting the inevitable are some of the ways these people have survived and conquered cancer. Sure, many of these so-called cures may not be on the up and up, but giving up hope and accepting the inevitable is not the answer. Science has been proving the connection between the mind and body, and a positive mind can play a role in curing the body.
 

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rubmeister100 said:
Boy am I going to get flamed after this but here goes...

I wish peole would stop patronizing these vile, opportunistic predatorry merchants of false hope. C'mon... spores of reiki mushrooms, eye of the newt and fairy tale books of miraculous healing (that in a recent study, many were found to be heavily edited and significantly inaccurate and misleading).

My father died of the most malignant brain tumour there is; glioblastoma multiforme. Nobody lives more than a year. He died but not before being scammed by "Jason Winters Herbal Tea" and a score of other predators. NONE of them exists today, but their spawn continues to flourish. What ever happened to the shark cartilage cure? You know, the one whose ads state "sharks don't get cancer". This myth has been debunked ad nauseum yet still we see the ads.

Nothing personal against those of you who made the very kind suggestions to jk, just against the predators who prey on those poor souls.

Go ahead, I'll take my lashing...
Rub sweets,


Open your eyes, Expand your mind and let go of all the anger and pain that you have been carrying all this time over your fathers death because you lost your belief when you lost your father. *hugs*

I have seen and heard the power of healing through herbal remedies, Reiki and so much more and because of that I BELIEVE that ANYTHING is possible. Believe again Rub, believe.



Annessa
xoxo
 

EnergizerBunny

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Placebo effect.

Why do they work? Because of the awesome power of the mind. And yes placebos DO WORK. Yes believe! Also follow all other forms of treatment provided to you by modern medicine.

Never give up and maintain a POSITIVE outlook. Laugh as often as possible. Rent as many funny DVDs as you can get your hands on. Avoid negativity and sad thoughts and environments. Pray or meditate whichever you are accustomed to, as often as you can. BELIEVE!

Clinical depression is a real risk for those diagnosed with cancer, it is a slippery slope into a vicious circle. It is the exact opposite that you must seek.

All the best and remember to laugh! :D The power of laughter and positive thinking can change our body chemistry.

Good Luck.
 
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