What do you think will be the future of dating and relationships in the West(US/CA/UK?

[TheQuestion]

I notice online the whole MGTOW movement is getting more and more popular. There's a large class of men who are dateless, single, and wanting to move abroad. Personally for myself I have always embraced transactional relationships. However, it seems that for many of these guys that's not what they want, They want to have a long term gf..etc.

 

[JackBurton]

I notice online the whole MGTOW movement is getting more and more popular. There's a large class of men who are dateless, single, and wanting to move abroad. Personally for myself I have always embraced transactional relationships. However, it seems that for many of these guys that's not what they want, They want to have a long term gf..etc.

If I could move to Prague tomorrow, I’d do it in a heartbeat. Women there embrace femininity and know how to carry themselves and being easternish Europe they know how to make a man feel like a man.

North American women are missing “ce quelque chose de certain” it’s not their fault, femininity was attacked and conquered by feminists years ago. Do you know how many women in Toronto don’t know how to properly walk in high heels?

All of them if they are born here. They clunk around in shoes that don’t fit properly and there is no grace to how they walk.

It’s a shame too, you attract more flies with honey and a beautiful woman that knows how to move well, be an elegant dinner companion and makes a man feel like a king will get far far more down the road than a yoga teacher on a bike, wearing gortex while shopping for almond flour.

Like I said, give me European women every time. Their femininity makes me want to step up my behavior as a man.

A man would have to be an idiot to marry a western woman. Or marry in general.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

If I could move to Prague tomorrow, I’d do it in a heartbeat. Women there embrace femininity and know how to carry themselves and being easternish Europe they know how to make a man feel like a man.

North American women are missing “ce quelque chose de certain” it’s not their fault, femininity was attacked and conquered by feminists years ago. Do you know how many women in Toronto don’t know how to properly walk in high heels?

All of them if they are born here. They clunk around in shoes that don’t fit properly and there is no grace to how they walk.

It’s a shame too, you attract more flies with honey and a beautiful woman that knows how to move well, be an elegant dinner companion and makes a man feel like a king will get far far more down the road than a yoga teacher on a bike, wearing gortex while shopping for almond flour.

Like I said, give me European women every time. Their femininity makes me want to step up my behavior as a man.

A man would have to be an idiot to marry a western woman. Or marry in general.

I agree with you wholeheartedly, but we men, as a collective whole, also need to step up our game.

That means staying in shape and dressing fashionably. When it comes to dress and fashion, Toronto and Montreal are not too bad, but wander outside major cities or even into the suburbs of major cities and most guys look like effing slobs.

A clean-shaven man wearing a pressed shirt, blazer, designer jeans and a pair of shiny black leather Oxfords is going to turn the heads of far more attractive ladies than a guy wearing a pair of old tatty shorts, a T-shirt, lime-green Crocs or flip-flops and a ball cap.

 

[JackBurton]

I agree with you wholeheartedly, but we men, as a collective whole, also need to step up our game.

That means staying in shape and dressing fashionably. When it comes to dress and fashion, Toronto and Montreal are not too bad, but wander outside major cities or even into the suburbs of major cities and most guys look like effing slobs.

A clean-shaven man wearing a pressed shirt, blazer, designer jeans and a pair of shiny black leather Oxfords is going to turn the heads of far more attractive ladies than a guy wearing a pair of old tatty shorts, a T-shirt, lime-green Crocs or flip-flops and a ball cap.

That’s the baseline for men who “know”. I think my point is in Toronto you shouldn’t even bother since the quality of women is quite low despite their own over evaluation of themselves. You can save what you’d spend on a Toronto gf and move to Vienna for 6 months and sample many women.

Still, an excellent point

 

[y2kmark]

I notice online the whole MGTOW movement is getting more and more popular. There's a large class of men who are dateless, single, and wanting to move abroad. Personally for myself I have always embraced transactional relationships. However, it seems that for many of these guys that's not what they want, They want to have a long term gf..etc.

Oh, you didn't put it in the form of a question....

 

[y2kmark]

Read some Margaret Atwood maybe?

 

[ultraviolet]

Read some Margaret Atwood maybe?

Interestingly enough, Margaret Atwood lives in the Annex just off Bedford. I've seen her gardening quite often.

 

[xix]

I agree with you wholeheartedly, but we men, as a collective whole, also need to step up our game.

A clean-shaven man wearing a pressed shirt, blazer, designer jeans and a pair of shiny black leather Oxfords is going to turn the heads of far more attractive ladies than a guy wearing a pair of old tatty shorts, a T-shirt, lime-green Crocs or flip-flops and a ball cap.

Isn't this called gay?
Actually Japanese men are force to dress like this in all job titles, except bum. It's more like their uniform of the army / dictator command telling its slaves how to dress.

But I agree, I seen general managers (clients) from the states show up in Crocs or flip-flops at my work place to buy our services. No not sex.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

Isn't this called gay?

There's absolutely nothing "gay" about a man staying in good physical form and caring about his appearance and dress. Your clothes are your uniform to the world. A well-dressed man shows confidence and self-respect. A guy who walks around everywhere in shorts, ball caps and flip-flops looks like a man-child.

 

[JackBurton]

There's absolutely nothing "gay" about a man staying in good physical form and caring about his appearance and dress. Your clothes are your uniform to the world. A well-dressed man shows confidence and self-respect. A guy who walks around everywhere in shorts, ball caps and flip-flops looks like a man-child.

+1
Stylish choices make a msn stand out. Even I can admire when a dude has a really well put together look

 

[Jasmina]

Women do not exists soley to be "attractive" to men.

You are the reason feminists exist.

If I could move to Prague tomorrow, I’d do it in a heartbeat. Women there embrace femininity and know how to carry themselves and being easternish Europe they know how to make a man feel like a man.

North American women are missing “ce quelque chose de certain” it’s not their fault, femininity was attacked and conquered by feminists years ago. Do you know how many women in Toronto don’t know how to properly walk in high heels?

All of them if they are born here. They clunk around in shoes that don’t fit properly and there is no grace to how they walk.

It’s a shame too, you attract more flies with honey and a beautiful woman that knows how to move well, be an elegant dinner companion and makes a man feel like a king will get far far more down the road than a yoga teacher on a bike, wearing gortex while shopping for almond flour.

Like I said, give me European women every time. Their femininity makes me want to step up my behavior as a man.

A man would have to be an idiot to marry a western woman. Or marry in general.

 

[JackBurton]

Women do not exists soley to be "attractive" to men.

You are the reason feminists exist.

that’s a pretty big stretch in logic for you.

 

[Jasmina]

Lol. You sound like quite the catch.

that’s a pretty big stretch in logic for you.

 

[Charlemagne]

Right wingers will have even more trouble getting women, as they get more financially independent.

 

[canada-man]

I notice online the whole MGTOW movement is getting more and more popular. There's a large class of men who are dateless, single, and wanting to move abroad. Personally for myself I have always embraced transactional relationships. However, it seems that for many of these guys that's not what they want, They want to have a long term gf..etc.

it's not MGTOW if they spend all day making videos whining about women who reject them and e begging for money online



Debunking Sandman – Exposing Online Beggar & Conman (wordpress.com)

 

[angrymime666]

Right wingers are right wingers because they feel inadequate. All these who scream North American woman aren't feminine enough are the ones who aren't man enough. Just look at the whole Trump gang, they are North American rejects who go to former Soviet states in search of "catch".

Im curious. when is a man considered, man enough?

is there a set standard of how a man should behave or what they should be attracted to?

 

[angrymime666]

Yes, there is!

Real people with admirable qualities:
1. Considerate
2. Temperate
3. Thoughtful
4. Healthy
5. Curious
6. Takes pride in virtue not possession
7. Values experience over inheritance and so on

If a person with above qualities is of male gender he is man enough. If that person is of female gender she is woman enough.

Interest or ability to wear high heels or black dress is all matter of personal choice which neither adds or subtracts that person's womanliness. Those who resent this are misfits who like big belly Trump go to poor countries to "marry" obedient "womanly" woman. Basically taking advantage of them.

we will have to agree to disagree.

all the qualities you have listed are great traits to have in a person but the problem is as humans we are fallible and qualities are on a sliding scale. I would consider all humans unable to be real people considering at face value people are completely different behind closed doors. as an example the users of terb. everyone has 2 faces, a public face and a private face. typically the public face is what you want people to see and private is who a person really is.

I dont think a list of qualities defines what a real person is. perhaps its what each person want in a person as their qualities which defines what is real for them. which is completely subjective, inconsistent and unattainable. the idea of being a real man/woman is bogus. its just another way manipulate someone to be a certain way or shame them if they are not a real man or women according to their wants.

wearing heels and a black dress is a matter of choice; however, womanliness(femininity) is a value to all men. men are attracted to what they are attracted to and dont have a choice in that matter. if a woman is very feminine she will attract more males versus a masculine woman will. males are attracted to women who are more feminine versus more masculine behavior. that is not a choice. there are exceptions to every rule but typically men want feminine woman and not women that act like men.

there is a difference between western woman versus non westernized woman, although with the further introduction of western culture change is slowly occurring. as for non western women being submissive and obedient that is a inaccurate stereotype. western women have adopted many male behaviors in order to be competitive with their male counterparts.

as for men going to other countries and taking advantage of them, how so? women are able to make their own choices in their life regardless of what country they come from. your assertion that woman are taken advantage of could be considered sexist since woman are capable and intelligent to make their own decisions. in thailand women can either work for 330 baht a day in a regular job or be a prostitute and make 10 times that amount in a day. women and men make choices and very few people are forced into things they do not wish to do.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Read some Margaret Atwood maybe?

Old bitch is unreadable.

 

[Jenesis]

I love how the problem is western women and men have had nothing to do with it.

You talk about women in heels and yet at the same time about men here talk about how women should pay their own way at dinner, open their own doors, etc.

TERB is full of men who think women should do more. Work and take care of the house and kids all while wearing heels apparently. oh and are still suppose to fuck them every night or they are prudes, or dried up, so they go find 20 year old escorts.

Can some tell me what men bring to the table if a woman is doing all that?

 

[anon1]

Im curious. when is a man considered, man enough?

is there a set standard of how a man should behave or what they should be attracted to?