What have the Liberals done for Toronto???

[Judas H]

Toronto is the only city that has been supporting the Liberals since 1992, with the exeption of Jack Laytons riding in 2003.

Considering the fact that a hugh sum of tax dollars come from Toronto, have the Liberals realy taken care of Toronto? I know they take care of Quebec cities.

Why does Toronto support the Liberals? It can't be immigrants anymore because the skilled immigrants aren't allowed to work in their chosen profession.

Torontonians you should be ashamed of your self!!!!

What ever happened to the waterfront deal?

 

[A-ROD]

Here is what the golden boy Mayor Miller had to say about the Liberals...

http://www.680news.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20060118_055701_3196

 

[Dancerfan]

Toronto is the only city that has been supporting the Liberals since 1992, with the exeption of Jack Laytons riding in 2003.

Considering the fact that a hugh sum of tax dollars come from Toronto, have the Liberals realy taken care of Toronto? I know they take care of Quebec cities.

Why does Toronto support the Liberals? It can't be immigrants anymore because the skilled immigrants aren't allowed to work in their chosen profession.

Torontonians you should be ashamed of your self!!!!

What ever happened to the waterfront deal?

Exactly!! The love affair with the Liberals is something i can not figure out,and all theyve done in this election campaign is fear monger,as they do best!!
Ohhh my gawd,imagine someone other than the Liberals running the country!!!
All i can say is this,i hope on Monday night we can say goodbye and good riddance,and dont let the door hit you on the way out Mr Martin!!

 

[MarkII]

It's a big country.

Every area NEEDS money.

No matter where you spend it, another area will scream loudly.

It also does not matter which party is in control. The same debate will go on and on as to who should get the lions share.

The Ontario area needs infrastructure support to be sure, but so do many other areas. Where do you spend the money?

If you want to get re-elected you spend it where it comes from. But then you need to get elected again..ah the rub!

In Ontario we generate a huge percentage of tax revenue with a small percentage coming back.

But will this change? I doubt it. Too many places to spend money.

Unfortunately the Ontario tap may well run dry before the politicians realize it.

In the not to distant future..why would anyone start a biz in the costliest and most under supported region of the country?

Politicians want to be re-elected. They are bound by ambition, not morals.

M2

 

[emvee]

There was a discussion about this on Q107 this morning. I think this is a classic case of taking Toronto for granted. I'm sure the Liberals thought "They're not going to vote for anyone else, so why do anything?".

I can't believe the Mayor is sad to see the Liberals go. It really can't get much worse.

 

[K Douglas]

What has Miller done for Toronto??

Under Miller's watch we have seen:

Annual spending increases of 11%
Unions and insiders to the Mayors office benefiting royally
No accountability reforms (whatever did you do with that broom Mr Miller?)
More city officials making six figures than ever before
Deteriorated roads
Skyrocketing violent crime
Asinine political correctness (ignoring Miss Universe Natlie Glebova; the Guardian Angels, that preacher from Boston)

The only thing he's done is bitch and complain about money, sure he secured part of the gas tax money for public transit, but what about the roads Mr. Miller? Oh and he scrapped the Island bridge - that fight isn't over yet. Lawsuits pending. Way to go David!!

 

[Judas H]

Just as I suspected, not one Liberal supporter can tell me what the Liberals have done for Toronto.

All of these Liberal supporters could tell me what Harper will do IF he gets elected.

Everyone is worried what could happen in Toronto, and no one cares that NOTHING has happened to this city under the Liberal government.

 

[canucklehead]

From my understanding and stat Can Toronto has had its lowest unemployment rates in 30 some odd years....... as well as Canada has..... what did the last Tory government do fro Canada or Ontario for that fact. Was it not the Tory's that dumped the transfer costs onto the city of Toronto that has caused a lot of Toronto's need for more funding.
Not 100% sure myself.
I just want to know where Mr Harper plans on getting all this promised money from?

 

[canucklehead]

From my understanding and stat Can Toronto has had its lowest unemployment rates in 30 some odd years....... as well as Canada has..... what did the last Tory government do for Canada or Ontario for that fact. Was it not the Tory's that dumped the transfer costs onto the city of Toronto that has caused a lot of Toronto's need for more funding.
Not 100% sure myself.
I just want to know where Mr Harper plans on getting all this promised money from?

 

[Judas H]

From my understanding and stat Can Toronto has had its lowest unemployment rates in 30 some odd years....... as well as Canada has..... what did the last Tory government do for Canada or Ontario for that fact. Was it not the Tory's that dumped the transfer costs onto the city of Toronto that has caused a lot of Toronto's need for more funding.
Not 100% sure myself.
I just want to know where Mr Harper plans on getting all this promised money from?

and I want to know what happened to all that money that was promised for the Water front.

Do you remember the promise after we lost the Olympics?

Why do you Liberals forget?

The Liberals have done nothing for the biggest supporting City they have!!!

 

[johnhenrygalt]

I know they take care of Quebec cities.

Actually they don't "take care" of Quebec cities at all. And nor should they. Municipalities are within the exclusive legislative jurisdiction of the Provinces. Ottawa should keep its grubby fingers out of the nation's cities.

 

[oldjones]

Actually, it's the provincial government, and not the feds, that most affects the cities. If you've forgotten what the Harris Tories did for Toronto. You remember Mikey don'cha? The guy who was so in favour of referendums—until we voted against his boy Al Leach's pet project. Then it was any excuse to ignore the people's will.

Just stroll over to your local Community Council Hall—that'd be the former City Halls of North York, Scarborough, East York, Etobicoke, York or old TO sometime and attend a concil meeting. Ask any City worker when they expect the work of sorting that mess into some sort of rational order will be completed. Ask them how things are better now. Add that to your own observations of how much better things got under Harris and his boy Mel.

Everything in Toronto didn't suddenly go from roses to ratshit the day Miller was elected, no more did it the day McGuinty did. It took years and years of hard slogging by dedicated what's-wrong-with-this-provice-is-know-it-all-big-bucks-Toronto Progressive Conservatives.

 

[pussylicker]

From my understanding and stat Can Toronto has had its lowest unemployment rates in 30 some odd years....... as well as Canada has..... what did the last Tory government do fro Canada or Ontario for that fact. Was it not the Tory's that dumped the transfer costs onto the city of Toronto that has caused a lot of Toronto's need for more funding.
Not 100% sure myself.
I just want to know where Mr Harper plans on getting all this promised money from?

First, the Paul Martin finance dept was the one that cut money to Ontario, as well as other provinces, and Mike Harris gov't had to make cuts.
The Liberals were in power 30 years ago, and 25 years ago when the deline started. Liberals claim "lowest unemployment rate in 30 years", while gun violence is at it's highest. Just because McDs, Burger King, Harveys, Wendys, pizza and sub joints make up a big chunk of the jobs, and WallMart is part of the SLUM EMPLOYER group that pays bottom dollar, does'nt mean squat, when it comes to the "lowest" unemployment rate. Low income(poverty jobs) don't give anyone any true self esteem.

If people can't be self sufficient, hard working, creative and achive some form of set goals, then you will see more crime and violence. The government believes that handouts or makework projects will solve the imbalance, rather than recognize the need for change. Oh, isn't that what Harper is proposing?

The Liberals have had 12 plus years to correct all that ails Canada, and they haven't even scratched the surface. Lots of promises, little delivered. Then they make a push to say they were going to do this or that, after the fact, but couldn't because the election was called.

Someone said the "road to hell is paved with good intentions".



I am a man.... But I can change.... If I have to.... I guess

 

[canucklehead]

and I want to know what happened to all that money that was promised for the Water front.

Do you remember the promise after we lost the Olympics?

Why do you Liberals forget?

The Liberals have done nothing for the biggest supporting City they have!!!

I live right near the waterfront and Cherry Beach has been cleaned up quite a bit as well as the bike path being added.

 

[A-ROD]

I live right near the waterfront and Cherry Beach has been cleaned up quite a bit as well as the bike path being added.

Yea I saw Martin down there one day with a broom and shovel.

 

[maxweber]

Amen!

Everything in Toronto didn't suddenly go from roses to ratshit the day Miller was elected, no more did it the day McGuinty did. It took years and years of hard slogging by dedicated what's-wrong-with-this-provice-is-know-it-all-big-bucks-Toronto Progressive Conservatives.

Well said. Why do urbanites loathe and fear neo-con governments? Talk about a no-brainer..


MW

 

[The Mugger]

First, the Paul Martin finance dept was the one that cut money to Ontario, as well as other provinces, and Mike Harris gov't had to make cuts.

Once again Conservatives like to re-write history so as not to show how stupid their fiscal policies are.

1) Mulroney issued a tax cut when he passed the GST only to have the Provinces use this as a cash grab and raise Provincial Taxes

2) Liberals come to power Federally with a massive debt high interest rates and a massive budget deficit - gee what would be the responsible thing to do? Well if your a Conservative you run even bigger deficits, you see the economy will out grow this spending. If your Liberal, well you either raise taxes (not acceptable at the time) or decrease spending.

3)Mike Harris and his social conservatives then come to power with the full understanding of what the Feds are doing and then proceed over the next few years to cut taxes in a big and irresponsible way. I never understood this thinking, that if your going to receive less money from the Federal Government and you cut taxes why Conservatives believe that only Martin and the Liberals are responsible for the Provinces lack of money. Harris had choices and chose to hand out tax cuts that benefited the top of the economic food chain more than it did those who made less than 40,000 and then proceed to slash to the bone essential services that mainly affected the 40,000 and under crowd.

You conservatives can not have it both ways. There was a need after the Mulroney years to fix the Federal fiscal budget or Canada's economic health and standing with the rest of the world was in trouble. Harris chose tax cuts and severe service cuts to justify his existence in politics and we see the results. In addition, in a decade that saw unprecedented growth in Ontario's economy, Ontario is more in debt, the Eves government was in deficit that caused the Liberals when they came in power to repeal the mandatory deficit rule Harris put in, so that the Eves government would not be severely sanctioned. There is now evidence that Harris never did balance the books and used accounting methods that no Company would use.

Fiscal policy is easy - tax cuts, social spending, debt reduction. You do more in area than another, you have to sacrifice in another to keep things balance. However the message from the Conservatives is, "tax cuts that favour the rich because the social spending should be paid for by mainly those who use it." Sad how Conservatives like to say they are helping the little guy, not sad on the Conservatives but on those of us that fall for this lie.

 

[pussylicker]

Once again Conservatives like to re-write history so as not to show how stupid their fiscal policies are.

1) Mulroney issued a tax cut when he passed the GST only to have the Provinces use this as a cash grab and raise Provincial Taxes

2) Liberals come to power Federally with a massive debt high interest rates and a massive budget deficit - gee what would be the responsible thing to do? Well if your a Conservative you run even bigger deficits, you see the economy will out grow this spending. If your Liberal, well you either raise taxes (not acceptable at the time) or decrease spending.

3)Mike Harris and his social conservatives then come to power with the full understanding of what the Feds are doing and then proceed over the next few years to cut taxes in a big and irresponsible way. I never understood this thinking, that if your going to receive less money from the Federal Government and you cut taxes why Conservatives believe that only Martin and the Liberals are responsible for the Provinces lack of money. Harris had choices and chose to hand out tax cuts that benefited the top of the economic food chain more than it did those who made less than 40,000 and then proceed to slash to the bone essential services that mainly affected the 40,000 and under crowd.

You conservatives can not have it both ways. There was a need after the Mulroney years to fix the Federal fiscal budget or Canada's economic health and standing with the rest of the world was in trouble. Harris chose tax cuts and severe service cuts to justify his existence in politics and we see the results. In addition, in a decade that saw unprecedented growth in Ontario's economy, Ontario is more in debt, the Eves government was in deficit that caused the Liberals when they came in power to repeal the mandatory deficit rule Harris put in, so that the Eves government would not be severely sanctioned. There is now evidence that Harris never did balance the books and used accounting methods that no Company would use.

Fiscal policy is easy - tax cuts, social spending, debt reduction. You do more in area than another, you have to sacrifice in another to keep things balance. However the message from the Conservatives is, "tax cuts that favour the rich because the social spending should be paid for by mainly those who use it." Sad how Conservatives like to say they are helping the little guy, not sad on the Conservatives but on those of us that fall for this lie.

You forgot to mention something in your comment.
Mulroney cut funding to Public Works, so he wasn't all spend spend spend.

Martin cut transfer payments to all provinces, so it wasn't only Harris who ended up with the short end of the stick. Ontario wasn't in real trouble until Eves saw revenues drop due to 911, sars, and yes the big BLACKOUT hurt Ontario too.

You are also forgetting the Mean Jean was Trudeau's finance minister when the crazy spending spree started, so who's rewritng history here?



I am a man.... But I can change.... If I have to.... I guess

 

[ottawasub]

I just want to know where Mr Harper plans on getting all this promised money from?

Maybe he`s planning on amassing a trillion-dollar debt like his role model George Bush has done in the U.S.

 

[Judas H]

Maybe he`s planning on amassing a trillion-dollar debt like his role model George Bush has done in the U.S.

All he has to do is allocate Liberal adscam money into other programs...And if you think the only corruption was the adscam you people are fools.

There is more hidden money in other scandals that we don't know about yet. If harper spends all that scandal money on social programs, we'll be okay.