What's a PSE with a CBJ?

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Yes, this confused me as well. The ad for the sp in question also offered FACIAL as part of her service, so I was like, why the F would you offer facial but must have CBJ? She must be incredibly careful with that facial not to get any in her eye or mouth. Maybe she wears goggles, and zips her lip.
From my understanding, the risk of contracting an infection or STD (such as Chlamydia) are extremely low with a facial (unless for instance the receiver of the facial get some infected jizz in her eyes). But many STDs, including chlamydia, can be contracted through unprotected blowjobs.
 

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In short - the definition gets you into the right ballpark ,

GFE - Softball.

PSE- Hardball .

Once you get into the ball park the amount of game you bring combined with her willingness to take the pitches translates into ;

Homeplate - Covered FS is a given

1ST base - Kissing or not up to tongue sucking

2nd base - CBJ or BBBJ , possibly BLS and DT

3rd base - Daty , Rimming , Digits ,

Home run - Greek and or CIM

No time to cover all the options but you get the point .
It 's not an exact science and may change from one visit to the next with the same provider .

I've learned this the hardon way (LOL)
 

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Anyone who claims to provide PSE but doesn't do BBBJ should specify that they only do CBJ since a lot of people would be mislead and perhaps feel deceived.

If most guys consider BBBJ to be a part of PSE and if most escorts who claim to provide PSE do BBBJ, an omission of CBJ could be considered deceptive.
 

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I don't know when terb started to detitate what services are considered what. all these labeling needs to stop.
Why the hate-on for labels?! The fact that lots find PSE with CBJ odd shows mutual understanding between diverse interests (clients, SP's), and how is that a bad thing per se?!

Of course, note the irony of an SP on Terb saying the labelling needs to stop? Quite literally, if you and other SP's were completely unconcerned about being responsive to client interests, then you would have nothing to do with Terb! But clearly you are interested in availing yourself of client views on things (I'm complimenting you, RR, just so you know!), which all of us clients appreciate a great deal. So why not consider the labelling as a kind of "mutual currency", which clients and Sp's are exchanging between ourselves. We of course each have different agendas, but the labelling is one way to facilitate exchange between us. Remember, utlimately, client/SP relations are an exchange, and labels are part of how that exchange is regulated.

I should add here that each party to the exchange does derive a host of benefits from the labels. Clients can communicate to other clients reasonable expectations, so that clients can presumably make choices they will be happy with; happy clients are good for business, right? Conversely, SP's can articulate upfront what they do and do not do, plus they have that other label (YMMV) available to safeguard themselves being treated like a blow-up doll. Labels seem a good idea to me (acknowledging anything can be abused).
 

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Coming from someone whose handle is nolabel, the question is kinda funny.
Doh! OK, I actually had not thought of the obvious contradiction between my position and my Terb handle! By spotting the obvious that I am too silly to have spotted, I hereby cede to you the LABEL of "Queen of the Obvious" . . . :p
 

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Doh! OK, I actually had not thought of the obvious contradiction between my position and my Terb handle! By spotting the obvious that I am too silly to have spotted, I hereby cede to you the LABEL of "Queen of the Obvious" . . . :p
Heh heh. Pointing out contradictions (and defending my own) is what I do for a non-living.

I'd prefer a more marketable label though. "Queen of the Obvious" doesn't really sound like a seller.
 

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I don't know when terb started to detitate what services are considered what. all these labeling needs to stop.
As far as I know, PSE is really the only debatable term. GFE to a lesser extent. All the other terms describe a particular thing, ie: daty, lfk, cfs, pearls.

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In short - the definition gets you into the right ballpark ,
GFE - Softball.
PSE- Hardball .

Once you get into the ball park the amount of game you bring combined with her willingness to take the pitches translates into ;

Homeplate - Covered FS is a given
1ST base - Kissing or not up to tongue sucking
2nd base - CBJ or BBBJ , possibly BLS and DT
3rd base - Daty , Rimming , Digits ,
Home run - Greek and or CIM
You put digits at the same level as rimming? And also CBJ at the same level as deep throat? Come on.

Here's how mine would look

Homeplate - CFS, CBJ
1st base - DATY, digits, lfk (so far all gfe activities)
2nd base - bbbj, dfk, bls (this is where it gets debatable. Some may consider bbbj a pse)
3rd base - greek, rimming,
Home - CIM, fs, swallow,

Whatever, that's all going to be a different list for each person, and to be clear, the higher base you go doesn't necessarily mean better, just... getting more pse. However, I have never seen CBJ advertised with PSE. I HAVE however, seen bbbj advertised with GFE...... so you can see my confusion.
 

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Usually:

standard = CBJ, safe FS.

GFE = conversation, LFK, choice of CBJ or BBBJ, safe fs.

PSE = non-stop wild positions, DFK, BBBJCIM, safe FS, MSOG, Russian, etc.

Specialty services add-ons = BBBJCIMSW, Greek, etc, etc, etc.

I've never heard of a 'safe PSE' before, but I don't get around much and like MISH.:D
 

nolabel

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You put digits at the same level as rimming? And also CBJ at the same level as deep throat? Come on.

Here's how mine would look

Homeplate - CFS, CBJ
1st base - DATY, digits, lfk (so far all gfe activities)
2nd base - bbbj, dfk, bls (this is where it gets debatable. Some may consider bbbj a pse)
3rd base - greek, rimming,
Home - CIM, fs, swallow,
Here's how mine would look :rolleyes::
Homeplate: on my couch, small bowl of frozen yoghurt, BSG rerun
1st base: I paid for her to have a nice dinner
2nd base: I paid for her to have dinner and some activity, like theatre or mini-golf
3rd base: repeat base 2 but add listening to inane chat and a peck on cheek
Home: paid outcall so I don't have to put up with the other bases
 

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Women who advertise using labels like GFE and PSE should stop using them unless they are going to provide details, especially if they only do CBJ.
Did you read the rest of my website of wht to expect in a session with me or just the first page.

I rather be safe then sorry so I use condoms for any parts that are engage in bodily fluids . even going to invest in dental dams for DATY and possibly kissing, in Australia they use rubber gloves for handjobs. image that.

but everything is still at your own decretion and at your own risk. and if your taking care of yourself there should be less risk out there but not everyone does check ups regularly like every 3 to 6 months when they hobby or work.
 

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Anyone who claims to provide PSE but doesn't do BBBJ should specify that they only do CBJ since a lot of people would be mislead and perhaps feel deceived.

If most guys consider BBBJ to be a part of PSE and if most escorts who claim to provide PSE do BBBJ, an omission of CBJ could be considered deceptive.
You're right, and this thread is about someone who does specify they do CBJ.
For some reason the original poster feels deceived about this.
 

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even going to invest in dental dams for DATY and possibly kissing, in Australia they use rubber gloves for handjobs. image that.
I did not know they made dental dams for the mouth. That would be quite unromantic. [/quote]

You're right, and this thread is about someone who does specify they do CBJ.
For some reason the original poster feels deceived about this.
No no, I did not feel deceived. I was wondering what pse could possibly mean if cbj is offered instead of bbbj. Cause I think many consider bbbj to be entry level pse, some don't even consider it pse level. So it makes you wonder, what does she do to qualify herself as pse? Greek, and rimming were also not on her menu, and of course no cim. Many things considered to be the hallmark of pse not offered. So it just made me wonder, what kind of a pse is it? I'll soon find out, because I have ordered this sp. heh heh heh.
 

nolabel

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That's for sure but some women don't have reviews.
What is the point of claiming to be GFE and PSE if these are simply vague arbitrary terms?
Problems easily solved:
1. Unless you like rolling dice down hills, don't see SP's without reviews. If you do, you are chasing dice, and we get what we get.
2. You're right that GFE/PSE should not just be arbitrary terms. But they're not. Reviews provide context and verification. Stick to well reviewed ladies and thus try to minimize the bullshit factor. Note that's what happened with the OP . . . he noted an oddity, others said it was odd, and it looks like he's gonna roll the dice and see for himself. Good for him. Adventurous spirit. We'll await the review and wish him all the best
 
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