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papasmerf

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lookingforitallthetime said:
Again, you're missing the point.

You're assuming the stranger has less because he does not have what you have. Maybe, the stranger that you see as having less, has exactly what he wants.
No you are missing the point

Would you support the idea of you and your family living under a diactatorship?

Would you like to surrender all your rights in exchange for this?

Or do you think your freedom is paid in full and you never have to stand up for it?
 
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papasmerf said:
No you are missing the point

Would you support the idea of you and your family living under a diactatorship?

Would you like to surrender all your rights in exchange for this?

Or do you think your freedom is paid in full and you never have to stand up for it?
You keep asking what is important to me or what I would do.

I guess it's difficult for you to grasp the fact that, when it comes to democracy in Iraq, you have to ask these question to Iraqis.
 

papasmerf

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lookingforitallthetime said:
You keep asking what is important to me or what I would do.

I guess it's difficult for you to grasp the fact that, when it comes to democracy in Iraq, you have to ask these question to Iraqis.
Because untill you decide what is important to you are unable to understand the importance of it.
Do you feel that some people have less of a right to freedom?
 

Mcluhan

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papasmerf said:
Hmmmmm
seems it worked in Canada too
Shows your ignorance there papa. Keep that up, and you won't have any friends here, but then I think you'll have to get used to that on a larger scale anyway.
 

papasmerf

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Mcluhan said:
Shows your ignorance there papa. Keep that up, and you won't have any friends here, but then I think you'll have to get used to that on a larger scale anyway.
I believe Canada embraces its freedom

Personaly I think that is a good thing

Why don't you?
 

papasmerf

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Mcluhan said:
You should learn some manners.
Mac

Face it you are a freedom loving person who just wishes others could share in it.
 

papasmerf

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Mcluhan said:
The last man that walked into my house and insulted me, I threw him out. It's a common right worldwide.
If calling you a freedom loving man is insulting you need to take a step back.
 
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papasmerf said:
Because untill you decide what is important to you are unable to understand the importance of it.
Again, when it comes to the importance of democracy in Iraq, it's what's important to Iraqis that matters. Now, if you can't grasp this, I can't help you and I've grown tired trying to explain me point.

papasmerf said:
Do you feel that some people have less of a right to freedom?
No, but you fail to see the difference between helping somone acquire freedom that wants it and imposing your belief in freedom on those who don't want it.

By the way, when the people of Haiti lost their democracy to a military coup in 2004, no one seemed to eager to help them.

If only Haiti had a few billion barrels of oil under it........
 

papasmerf

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lookingforitallthetime said:
Again, when it comes to the importance of democracy in Iraq, it's what's important to Iraqis that matters. Now, if you can't grasp this, I can't help you and I've grown tired trying to explain me point.



No, but you fail to see the difference between helping somone acquire freedom that wants it and imposing your belief in freedom on those who don't want it.

By the way, when the people of Haiti lost their democracy to a military coup in 2004, no one seemed to eager to help them.

If only Haiti had a few billion barrels of oil inder it........
One of the greatest effects of freedom of speech is the right to disagree.
 

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Oh, papa..

Mcluhan said:
The last man that walked into my house and insulted me, I threw him out. It's a common right worldwide.
The only time I see papa's comments are in quotes. They invariably remind me that I did the right thing in putting him on "ignore." He never has anything serious or substantial to say, just mean-spirited, ill-informed asides. Why bother with him?

MW
 

papasmerf

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lookingforitallthetime said:
You're right there, and I'm right here :D
Works well

Neither you nor I will make world policies but it is good it can be discussed.
 

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wow this thread is wearing me out, i am gonna go see Jessica at HFH and have her rub the kinks out
 

Mcluhan

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maxweber said:
The only time I see papa's comments are in quotes. They invariably remind me that I did the right thing in putting him on "ignore." He never has anything serious or substantial to say, just mean-spirited, ill-informed asides. Why bother with him?

MW
Ahhh..well, it's like this. Papa and I are friends. He tries to 'save' me from not being American, in essance see the light by extolling all the virtues that he holds as canons of his faith. These are reaffirmations by him of His existance and what he stands for. I on the other hand represent reality, harsh at times, at other times not. Not all friendships are alike.

We post, therefore we are.
 

papasmerf

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Mcluhan said:
Ahhh..well, it's like this. Papa and I are friends. He tries to 'save' me from not being American, in essance see the light by extolling all the virtues that he holds as canons of his faith. These are reaffirmations by him of His existance and what he stands for. I on the other hand represent reality, harsh at times, at other times not. Not all friendships are alike.

We post, therefore we are.
And we read and post because we do
 

WoodPeckr

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Mcluhan said:
I see a probable scenario. It's the same nightmare that's already in your head Woody, so i'm preaching doom to the choir here.

Bin Laden and his crew want this war to explode. They want Bush to bomb Iran. It's logical. It's emotional. It's predictable. It fits the plan. That gives Bin laden the ultimate war he craves so badly. Who cares why, that's what he wants.
This may have been part of that 'October Surprise' Team 'w' had planned before the upcoming US elections, as a means to scare Americans into line behind the cowboy from Crawford.

K Rove has been busy!
Looks like Rove's plans went awry.......:rolleyes:


U.S. Government Caught Red-Handed Releasing Staged Al-Qaeda Videos

Immediate Congressional investigation demanded, media oversight of clear and deliberate psychological warfare against American population non-existent

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | October 5 2006

Revelations that the US government had been in possession of footage released on Sunday depicting alleged Al-Qaeda hijackers and Osama Bin Laden since 2001 and evidence that the footage itself was filmed by security agencies, went unquestioned by the media - who blindly towed the official line that the tape was released by Al-Qaeda. This is smoking gun proof that the U.S. government is staging the release of alleged Al-Qaeda tapes and it demands an immediate Congressional investigation.

Segments of the video that were interspersed with footage of the "laughing hijackers," Jarrah and Atta, showing Bin Laden giving a speech to an audience in Afghanistan on January 8 2000, were culled from what terror experts describe as surveillance footage taken by a "security agency."

This explains the lack of a soundtrack in the video and the fact that the tape does not focus solely on Bin Laden but pans around and shows the attendees in the audience.

Furthermore, film of the Bin Laden speech, reported by the dominant media as new footage, was previously broadcast in the UK docudramaThe Road to Guantanamo, which was first seen on British television nearly seven months ago in March.

News reports over the weekend contained the admission that the U.S. government had been in possession of the footage since 2002, while others said it was found when the United States invaded Afghanistan in 2001, and yet it was still bizarrely reported that the tape, bearing all the hallmarks of having been filmed and edited by undercover US intelligence and having admittedly been in US possession for five years, was released over the weekend by Al-Qaeda.

Either Al-Qaeda has been given access to US intelligence surveillance tapes of its own organization or the tape was released by the US intelligence apparatus. The evidence provides no other explanation.

The fact that the same footage was used in The Road to Guantanamo is startling because the context of the clip in which it is seen portrays British and American intelligence agents showing doctored footage to detainees, whereby their likeness has been edited in with CGI to the Bin laden rally scene, using it to intimidate them into confessing to being Al-Qaeda members.

The latest video tape hoax is only the most recent of a dirty laundry list of past examples where old, re-hashed, or outright faked footage of Bin Laden and his followers was mysteriously obtained and released at the most politically expedient time. These examples are all referenced in our original investigation.
 

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Paladin415 said:
As a US Citizen I can assure you it will almost certainly not pass judicial review.
Your POTUS just signed this, so called, 'terror bill' into law today. So what's the next step in stopping this from being passed?
 
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