Where can I learn speak French?

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WhOiSyOdAdDy?

ersa3 said:
To quote 'WhOiSyOdAdDy?' :



"...Go to France as they do not speak proper french in quebec."


... We do speak 'proper French' in Quebec... Gosh... I cannot believe I just read this... Wow. Je parle francais aussi bien que n'importe qui d'autre de cette meme province, ou de cet autre pays.
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A Quebecer may think that proper french is spoken in Quebec, however the school systems in Canada would disagree with you as they teach proper French, Parisian French
 
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lomotil said:
DateMasume, First you must learn to speak English correctly What is your

first language?
Why is "First" and "What" cApItAlIzAeD?

Furthermore, is there a correlation between written English on a very informal message board and spoken English?
 

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WhOiSyOdAdDy? said:
A Quebecer may think that proper french is spoken in Quebec, however the school systems in Canada would disagree with you as they teach proper French, Parisian French


Then I hope the English classes I took here in Canada correspond to "proper English"; was I supposed to go to England to learn "proper English"? (aww... man!) ;)
 
WhOiSyOdAdDy? said:
You could immerse yourself in the culture and learn french that way... if you do this, go to France as they do not speak proper french in quebec.
I came back with urge for crossants and French Kiss...And everytime I see a hot French girl, Oui comes out of my mouth :)
 
DateMasamune said:
Hey, thanks! That really helped. Good thing is, it is really affordable and close to where I work and the schedule is good.

Hope I get a hottie French teacher
Or a mean old French blonde witch. Used to work next to them as many years ago. She's atypical sample, as there are very sweet French girls.
 

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DateMasamune said:
Why is "First" and "What" cApItAlIzAeD?

Furthermore, is there a correlation between written English on a very informal message board and spoken English?

DateMasamune, you need to go to ESL classes first to get some proficiency
in the English language, and then go to FTL, French as a third language.


Good Luck
 
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For authentic French, you should move to France.

Otherwise you can move to Quebec.

Ciao,

VT
 

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WhOiSyOdAdDy? said:
You could immerse yourself in the culture and learn french that way... if you do this, go to France as they do not speak proper french in quebec.
Before you criticize Canadian French, remember that the English spoken in Canada, especially in Toronto is rather atrocious; and forget about the horrible dialects spoken in the USA. If you wish to speak correct English, Oxford and Cambridge are the places to be, although the better neighbourhoods of London are acceptable substitutes.

WhOiSyOdAdDy? said:
A Quebecer may think that proper french is spoken in Quebec, however the school systems in Canada would disagree with you as they teach proper French, Parisian French
Actually Parisian French (as in the French usually spoken in the streets of Paris) often is not good French. They have a tendancy eliminate certain syllables which should be pronounced and at times they add syllables where there should be none. The correct French is that which is advocated by L’académie française. (Yes, L'académie française is in Paris, but most of the city's inhabitants don't follow their lead.)
 

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Datemasumune, I would suggest that you take a course at a local university or community college in French for business. University of Toronto used to have such a course, maybe they still do. These courses concentrate on business phrases and idioms in both Quebecois French and French as spoken in France.

When I studied French in Ontario, I got tired of hearing that Quebec does not speak proper French and that Parisian French, whatever that means, is the standard. To do business successfully in Canada, with Quebec, it is essential to master Quebecois accents and idioms and the same goes with doing business in France, and there are differences between the two. What is taught in Ontario schools is basically what is called standard French as is spoken on CBC Radio Canada. This French can be understood universally in Quebec, France, Belgium and in French speaking Africa. Most people in France do not speak what is snobbishly called Parisian Francais as France has regional dialects, but the official language and governement speak French as is governed by L'Academie Francais in Paris. In highschool in
Ontario, there were teachers who taught us French expressions and pronouciations from 18th century French literature, such as Alexander Dumas and Guy de Mauspassant which is nice if you want to impress some literary snobs at a dinner party, but useless if you go to Quebec City and try to communicate with a taxi driver. One thing that helped Brian Mulroney was that he was from Baie Comeau, Quebec and could speak Quebecois French as a first language and then easily switch to standard CBC French when necessary, whereas John Turner and Queen Elizabeth speak standard French very fluently but when they speak in Quebec, although they can be understood, they sound cold, aloof and stange to the people there.
 
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lomotil said:
Datemasumune, I would suggest that you take a course at a local university or community college in French for business. University of Toronto used to have such a course, maybe they still do. These courses concentrate on business phrases and idioms in both Quebecois French and French as spoken in France.
Thank you for your informative reply. I have indeed thought of taking French at the university level, however, if I get a bad grade I do not want it to appear on my transcipt as it will stick with me for the rest of my life - hence, ruinning by prospects of pursuing a master's or PhD. in my field. What I do want to do is learn French, be evaluate but not have any records of my performace. Another words, not showing up on my transcript. Besides, my French totally sucks. I failed grade nine French three times and was made to do some other course for exemption so I can graduate high school. Therefore, university level French would definitely be too difficult for me ... even a course for people with absolutely no French background.

However, I would do a university level French course if it was non-credit -not showing up on the transcript ...
 

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Everyone I know who has learned to speak a second language fluently all told me that the best way to learn is to immerse yourself in that particular culture by moving there. There is nothing that teaches language more effectively than necessity!

I took French and German in high school and I'd now be hard pressed to communicate in either form. Luckily, I couldn't care less if I can't speak French. And I doubt I'll need German, although it's always nice to be able to tell what the enemy soldiers are saying in Saving Private Ryan! ;)
 
lomotil said:
...This French can be understood universally in Quebec, France, Belgium and in French speaking Africa. Most people in France do not speak what is snobbishly called Parisian Francais as France has regional dialects, but the official language and governement speak French as is governed by L'Academie Francais in Paris...
French is one of official language of EU. Dominant as many French colonies.

Date, too bad you don't like Vietanese girls as it's sexier from a hot Vietanese girl with O'lala. Or French Polynesian...and few Caribbean countries...

From the land of Eiffel tower, CoCo, LV, Cartier, Ritz, and Maxim ...

Date, you can always audit University course without affecting your GPA. Many Grad student take langauge or Culture course for dates.
 
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goodtime said:
Date, you can always audit University course without affecting your GPA. Many Grad student take langauge or Culture course for dates.
Please tell me more what you are talking about and I will see if my school has such possibilities cause what you say sounds very attractive ... ;)
 

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English is the contemporary lingua franca, although Mandarin Chinese is the first language of more people than any other. French is not among the most frequently used first langauges.
 

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I believe you can take language under 'Continuing Education', it should not affect your grades if you're worried about that.

Academic performance are not a huge determining factor, especially for people who worked for several years in their industry of interest and later decide to persue graduate studies. There's also Gmat scores that counts as well.

It doesn't matter where you take French lessons as long as the instructor knows proper grammar, conjugation and catch your mistakes when you practise speaking.

If you perservere in the end, not only will you learn a language of romance, charm ladies, make your life richer, but you will also gain the fundamentals of Spanish.
 

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Boyscout352 said:
It doesn't matter where you take French lessons as long as the instructor knows grammar, and catch your mistakes.
I would try to learn from a francophone instructor if you can. English instructors who know french can never really teach you how to speak like a Quebecer!

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Vietor said:
English is the contemporary lingua franca, although Mandarin Chinese is the first language of more people than any other. French is not among the most frequently used first langauges.
Why would I want to learn Mandarin and deal with peasants from the mainland anyway? Taiwanese though, I would be more then happy to deal with.

I want to learn French because the company I work for is runned by people who speak French. In order for me to move up, I got to speak "the official language of the bank" (as stated in the mission statement). Furthermore, there are lots of big clients who speak French at the company so it would be beneficial for me if I could speak the language. Besides, knowing both English and French is a stepping stone to politics ...

Now I regret doing so bad in high school French therefore not being able to take it in university and be fluent in it ...
 
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