Phil C. McNasty said:
Obviously you boys have a nice pissing contest going, and while it seems like alot of fun, please don't include me in it.
Participating in bitchfests is not fun for me.
Who Are The Pedophiles?
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Participating in bitchfests is not fun for me.
Really? To put it simply, is it ethical to kill mice/rats in research to save babies? If so, how many would be too many? Some people think no animals should be killed in the name of science.
Many people have that 'right' taken way from them as a result of lesser crimes. I've lost count of the friends who have had to move from their home after it had been simply broken into. A few of them never live in their home, new or old, peacefully ever again. The seriousness of the crime has little to do with that reaction. Don't get me wrong, sexual crimes are horrendous, definitely more so than home theft.
What rights should be taken away, aside from the already relinquished freedom. Should they be given only omen meal a day, maybe just gruel. Why s should they fed nursing meals, their animals.nShould they have their health care privileges with held or diminished? How about they right to have comfortable clothes. They should be expected to wear hair shirts and have their laundry dome once a months Yes these are il little silly but where do you stop? You just want to kill them for their crime. Most of the civilized industrial world has found that wrong, but apparently you know better.
That's because one of the regional parol offices are just down the street and there were a number of half way homes in their extended neighbourhood. I lived in High Park with my SO some time back where there were three halfway homes within a block radius of my address. There are quite few in High park as the large homes and ease of public transit make for very good facilities. Very few people even knew they are halfway homes.Ha ha....fixed your post
Also, there were more than 200 sex offenders living near Holly Jones's home:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/arrest-brings-relief-to-hollys-family/article1162995/
Perhaps given the problems with such lists there is a reason for that.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-04-16-maine-shootings_x.htm
http://www.murderpedia.org/male.M/m/marshall-stephen.htm
The Great and High Crime of the younger of Marshall's two murder victims - - - - - his girlfriend was 15 1/2 and he had just turned 20 and her father didn't like it. Which put him on the Sexual Offenders Registry for life.
Interesting point about research on mice/rats. From my perspective, the analogy is not close enough to this one.
However, the fact that society has chosen to use mice for research shows that those decisions are made on regular basis.
Are you doing this on purpose or do you just not realize what you are doing? The point of the discussion is
not about what rights should be taken away from criminals or other topics.
My specific question to you was: If I could prove to you that for every 1 wrongful convicted child sexual abuser
we sentence to death, we could prevent the abuse of 1, 2, 5, 10 or 100 innocent children would you agree that
we should sentence child sexual abusers to death? Perhaps your problem is that you cannot understand
how sentencing people to death will save others. Below is my attempt to do this for you.
Here is my attempt to frame the question or clarify what I mean:
1. If it is proven that people who abuse children are repeat offenders
because they get light sentences;
2. If the above is true, then we can say that
sentencing those people to death will save other
children from harm.
3. If we can quantify the # of children who will be saved
from harm
4. If we can use historical data or other data to quantify the number of
people who will be wrongfully convicted and sentenced
to death,
5. Then we should be able to get some sort of number to use
in my scenario.
6. Finally if we can come up with all of these things, and say
sentencing child sexual abusers to death will save XX amount of
children from harm, but we might get it wrong YY amount of times
then would you be able to answer my question above?
Blackrock, why do you try to pick a fight where there isn't one. I am not saying
that I know better, or know worse.
Are you gonna post this website that has the sex-offender registry, or not??!
Phil, it will take some time as Blackcrock is very busy defending himself in other threads. Someone had the gall to refer to his as a "Dummy".
most were victims themselves
it is a cancer
one should sympathize with their plight so they can get help
it is only when they act on there impulses that i get angry with them
Thanks Aardvark. I get your point.
But on the other hand, intuitively, it seems to me that it is insane to release people who pose a huge threat to our children
without any type of means to ensure they do not re-offend. I accept the fact that they have
a right to try to live their life, however, what about my right to ensure that my family is protected?
Why should my right be trumped by their rights?? I won't comment on the fact that the article is from 2006, because
there are probably more of this than we know but it is not reported.
I am still waiting for a brilliant argument about why we should not have access to information about
convicted sexual abusers or violent criminals? Yes, there will be those who want vigilante justice. Yes
some innocent convicted criminals will be wrongfully punished outside of the legal system (by vigilantes).
The thing that is fascinating for me is that the very thing same logic I am using to protect the general
public, you are using to protect the criminals, but you want to tell me that my logic is wrong.
i.e. You are saying if people know about convicted sex abusers, then some people might try to harm these
convicted sex abusers. I am saying, that these convicted abusers are a threat to innocent people, and we
have a right to know who they are and even where they live. So for example, if I live in an apartment building
I have the right to know that my neighbor or the really nice guy who hangs out in the lobby, just came out of prison for sexually abusing 4 year old kids
Blackrock, still waiting for you to show us that information you have that is so easily researched.
I once compared # of child abuse cases to # of canadians and then compared # of teachers fired for inappropriate behaviour to # of teachers and found that there wasn't a sginificant difference (possibly lower.... it was a while ago when I posted that). And I was being generous and included all teachers that were written up because it was easier then trying to figure out what offence each teacher committed (offences do not have to be sexual in nature or even relating to children, could just as easily be for stealing or other crimes).
If you were a sicko and wanted access to children you would just have to look at your immediate surroundings. The lionshare of sexual assault invovles people who know each other. I found it interesting that 70% of child molesters are white. The profile includes being 35 and younger, average to above average intelligence, no criminal past (convictions) often are caregivers or acquaintance to the child
http://www.yellodyno.com/html/child_molester_stats.html
I doubt people think yeah I'm going to do a university degree plus teacher's college so I can diddle kids. Similarly I doubt many pedos decide to go off to the semiary to become a priest for the same reasons. Terrible to say but much easier to become a community volunteer than the two afforementioned paths.
If you were a sicko and wanted access to children you would just have to look at your immediate surroundings. The lionshare of sexual assault invovles people who know each other. I found it interesting that 70% of child molesters are white. The profile includes being 35 and younger, average to above average intelligence, no criminal past (convictions) often are caregivers or acquaintance to the child
http://www.yellodyno.com/html/child_molester_stats.html
I doubt people think yeah I'm going to do a university degree plus teacher's college so I can diddle kids. Similarly I doubt many pedos decide to go off to the semiary to become a priest for the same reasons. Terrible to say but much easier to become a community volunteer than the two afforementioned paths.
57% in 2012. Nice try dummy but keep arguing I don't have all day like you dummy. Maybe you can post an Ipsos poll you found done in Greece. Posted by enzoamore in a thread cieling cat started. I think it actually offended Blackcrock.
