Who had the under on "Two weeks before the first mention of Concentration Camps"?

[dirtydaveiii]

They are very nice people and they do the jobs nobody else will for cheap. However we let in a lot of bad hombres too and these bad hombres will be heading to the new detention center soon.

That was trunps failed border policies. Biden and Obama focused on the criminals while Trump tried to stop everyone which led to many criminals getting in.

 

[southpaw]

That was trunps failed border policies. Biden and Obama focused on the criminals while Trump tried to stop everyone which led to many criminals getting in.

Do you have any evidence to back up this assertion?

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Shouldn't the worst of the worst be prioritized for deportations instead of detainment in a concentration camp?
And what is the measure for "the worst of the worst"?
Are they being brought before a judge to be adjudged as very, very dangerous?

Anyone with 34 or more felony convictions should be sent to Gitmo, born in America or not

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Do you have any evidence to back up this assertion?

Google trumps border policies and then Google budens border policies. Trump tried to stop everyone which is impossible while Biden concentrated on the criminals a

 

[Frankfooter]

Who was it that said, "No one is above the law ..."

Was it someone who appointed his own judges?

 

[Valcazar]

Don’t mess with the United States of Merica. That’s what MAGA would say to your comments.

Again, I do like that you (and lots of MAGA) don't deny these things.
"Hell yes, we're going to use a concentration camp! Don't fuck with us!"

Horrifying, but it provides clarity given how often Trump and MAGA just resort to non-stop self-contradictory bullshit.

 

[Frankfooter]

Again, I do like that you (and lots of MAGA) don't deny these things.
"Hell yes, we're going to use a concentration camp! Don't fuck with us!"

Horrifying, but it provides clarity given how often Trump and MAGA just resort to non-stop self-contradictory bullshit.

This is also horrifying.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1885033733440299304

 

[PeterParker1000]

Again, I do like that you (and lots of MAGA) don't deny these things.
"Hell yes, we're going to use a concentration camp! Don't fuck with us!"

Horrifying, but it provides clarity given how often Trump and MAGA just resort to non-stop self-contradictory bullshit.

Thanks for taking that literally. Makes it funnier.

 

[Valcazar]

Yes, you do. Its called due process.

Silly Shaq, that's for people, not immigrants.

Do you still need that in a state of emergency? Isn't the whole point of declaring an emergency to move swiftly? Or why bother.

Yes, while Trump and company clearly think they shouldn't have to give people due process, the American people mostly do.
So declaring a fake "emergency" to seize additional powers is one of the methods they are using to get around this.

Of course, the US doesn't even have the levels of checks and balances on emergency powers that Canada does, so those who followed the saga of the Trucker Convoy up here can imagine how this is going to go.

 

[Valcazar]

The emergency was to deploy troops to the border and appropriate or redirect funds for the effort.
The Alien Enemies Act of 1798 that he invoked, allowed him to deport without a deportation order or due process.
The Alien Enemies Act is a wartime authority to target foreign nationals, and deport them to prevent espionage and sabotage.
It has been invoked only 3 times before. WW1, WW2 and the War of 1812.
But he is using it against poor undocumented migrants to deny them due process rights.
It is all for show, a gross abuse of power.

It's not for show.
It's for the abuse of power.

 

[Valcazar]

If Biden had done his job, there would he no need for such drastic action. There would be no need for Trump.

Ahh, the old "We had no choice but to abandon our ideals! We were scared!" argument.

It isn't millions each year.
It is about 500K each year and that is split between crossing, visa overstays (primary source of illegal immigration), asylum petition being denied etc.,
It is not an invasion.
The immigration issue is not even #1 for the US.
Real issues such as healthcare affordability and access, gun violence, debt and deficit are being ignored.
All of his major policies are targeting people groups instead of focusing on those real issues.
Also the July 2024 data showed the lowest level of border crossings since September 2020.
So Biden didn't really do a bad job.
Its all blown out of proportion.

As Skoob likes pointing out, Obama was much better at deporting people than Trump.
Even Biden deported as many people as Trump did.

Trump's just not very good at this, or he is just lying to MAGA and is using "cracking down on immigration" as an excuse for his power grab or other things he wants to do.

 

[Valcazar]

Also, its mostly away from prying eyes. There will be no "neighbours" to complain about the detainees treatment, no way for TV news to get shots of the camp from helicopters. Out of sight, out of mind, and those good Christian nationalists can go on pretending they are following the teachings of Jesus....

Yes.
The ones along the border will also be fairly removed, I expect.

You need some splashy announcements about people being sent there, but no one wants the day to day reminder that people are still there.

 

[Frankfooter]

It's not for show.
It's for the abuse of power.

Also part of the strategy, break all the laws at once to make it harder to defend them all.

 

[Valcazar]

Do you have any evidence to back up this assertion?

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[Valcazar]

This is also horrifying.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1885033733440299304

That's in Tennessee, if I recall.
Just want to make clear it is a state law, not a federal one.

 

[silentkisser]

Yes.
The ones along the border will also be fairly removed, I expect.

You need some splashy announcements about people being sent there, but no one wants the day to day reminder that people are still there.

True.

Also, I've heard of several Native Americans being caught up in this mess....