Why does TERB get it from both sides?

Back Burner

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Is it just me or does TERB get the raw deal from both sides?

Example.....

You have guys saying that this board only caters to SP's/advertisers and they protect the SP's..blah..blah

Then.........

You have some "ladies" who say (actually whine) they can't speak their mind here because they are female or SP's.

So which is it?
 

Svend

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If some people on both sides are pissed, TERB has probably struck a good balance.
 

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Back Burner said:
Is it just me or does TERB get the raw deal from both sides?

Example.....

You have guys saying that this board only caters to SP's/advertisers and they protect the SP's..blah..blah

Then.........

You have some "ladies" who say (actually whine) they can't speak their mind here because they are female or SP's.

So which is it?
You forgot to mention the various boards (public & private) that slam TERB as well. Which always makes me laugh. After all, without TERB, these boards may not have evolved as they have. The only other thing I get a chuckle out of is the elitist attitude that is perpetrated by their existence. It may be nice that a collective has decided to form their own cult following/board, but when they feel the need to boast about their superior intellect or freedom of censorship vs. TERB, then I feel that they need to take a serious look at their personal lives and put things into perspective.
 

Ben Hogan

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Lisa: Dad, do you know what Schadenfreude is?
Homer: No, I do not know what shaden-frawde is. [sarcasm] Please tell me, because I'm dying to know.
Lisa: It's a German term for 'shameful joy', taking pleasure in the suffering of others.
Homer: Oh, come on Lisa. I'm just glad to see him fall flat on his butt! [getting mad] He's usually all happy and comfortable, and surrounded by loved ones, and it makes me feel... What's the opposite of that shameful joy thing of yours?
Lisa: [nastily] Sour grapes. Homer: Boy, those Germans have a word for everything!
 

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Back Burner said:
Come on, you have to agree that eitherway you can't win.

Don't you know it's called life, that's where the saying came from " You can't please all of the people all of the time "
 

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TERB didn't set the pace of review boards. They would have happened in time regardless just based on the way the internet was going. There were boards that were doing very well before TERB came around. You can't say for fact that the boards out there that slam TERB wouldn't be there if TERB wasn't here. The motivation factor may have been to compete and take out TERB{ quote our long lost friend TBILL} but it doesn't mean that without TERB we would have no review boards.

Now BB I believe that most of this is directed to me as I am the one saying this lately, but I will clear something up. If TERB would take an official stand and treat everyone with the same rules and guidelines alot of it wouldn't happen. Then again the garden of Eden didn't last so I am understanding to the fact that this can't always and will not always happen.

Most of what I say is to try and challenge ones thinking, because for the most part any professional working lady agrees with most of what hobbyist feel is their right. If you break it all down, we do. We don't think it is right for a girl to be a paid advertiser and pull the NRP because she is an unprofessional worker. On the other side though, we don't agree that just because we provide a service that the customer has the right to review us regardless of our wishes. I mean if you had a good session and she has a clearly stated NRP, why would disrespect her and provide a review. Now people are going to do what they are going to do, but comments like, don't like being reviewed get out of the business, we are the client and we are right so too bad for you, it is not something we just have to lay down and take.

There is, regardless if people see it or not, an “Us vs. Them” mentality on this board. And it shouldn’t and doesn’t need to be that way. This whole agreement of “this is an Escort review board, that is what it is called Toronto Escort Review Board” and if you don’t like it get out of this business is selfish in my opinion. We should be able to co-exist. I remember a TERB, where a lady could post about her frustrations of having a bunch of no-shows and people would post their sympathies and a lot of ladies would post better ways to screen calls to ensure that you get fewer amounts of no shows. Now, all the replies are, “it is apart of the business, get use to it or find a new job.”

If we as providers can be understanding and sympatric to men who are stood up, or to men who have been involved in a B&S, or have been ripped off in some way, then why can’t that sympathy be reciprocated, and why is it wrong for us to expect it.

TERB will never be able to make everyone happy. I completely understand this, but if you take on the responsibility of running and owning a board, any type of board, not just adult based, you have a responsibility of bringing balance, and I think this is where TERB is faulting. Again this is just my opinion and I can say on behalf of some others this is their feelings on the matter as well. Yes we are providers, yes we are selling a product that is our bodies, but we are not a piece of meat and do not need to be treated as such. We do not need to treated less then human, or beneath the respect line of mainstream women because we happen to be hookers, and we don’t have to lay down and take whatever a we are handed because of what we choose to do. Do you see us coming down on all the married men for “cheating” on their wives and if we did, what would be the outcome of that thread, I wonder?????

We equally need each other. Hobbyist need providers to provider the service they are looking for and providers need the hobbyist and the income that results, so why should we be in this Us vs. Them mode????? I honestly don’t have the answer to that and I don’t think anyone does. I mean if we did then this probably wouldn’t be an issue.

Treat us right and we will treat you right, or if you feel better, we will treat you right and then you can treat us right. I personally don’t care who steps up to the plate first our side or yours, but something has to give, or things will only get worse.

HH
 

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Sheik,

I am not going to debate issues that we discussed in private here in this thread. I will make this comment and then bow out of this thread gracefully. I addressed what the thread was about, this is your reply to my email, not to this post in my opinion. Now clearly read please what I wrote. I said I believe BB's comments to be mostly directed to me. Not that it was or is, just that I believe it to be since this is not the first time he has brought up this issue with me. You can sit here and say I am wrong all you want, but really should state as an opinion, not as fact since it is not.

Second, I never stated that TERB doesn't get it from both ends. I agreed with that. You do, but I believe, and again this is only an opinion, that there are preventative measure that can be taken to avoid some of this.

As for my site and the services it provides, I will stand up now and say it straight out, You are not sending ladies to me, for me. I am not and will not at anytime be charging money or making a profit off of any lady for any type of service related to my site. You send ladies to me of your own free will and for your own reasons, so please do not think that I am asking for TERB's support to boost my traffic of my site. I don't care how many people we reach just as long as the ones we do reach are helped in some way. Would I like the numbers to be up high up there, of course, it means more women are being helped, but if I was demanding support or free advertising from TERB then the issue of Maggies free banner and SPOC's free banner would come into play, and quite often. It is not. It is your own reasons for sending ladies to me, not mine. I will not sit here and stand for it to be implied that I am being benefited in anyway if a lady is directed to my site or that I am wanting it or that I am upset that it is not happening. I have already explained to you why I am upset about the lack of support and it has nothing to do with traffic, it has everything to with the two faces I am shown.

You are mad about our exchange of emails, and I understand that. I would have expected that you kept them there being the type of person you are and the fact that you preach it all the time.

TERB whether you like or not has a responsibility to this industry simply based on the forum you provide, and many, both on the hobbyist side and the provider side feel that TERB is not taking the responsibility needed. It is as simple as that.

Now I will have no problem with no longer posting here on TERB, removing any and all banners or links to my site, either via threads, signatures etc. I didn't ask to be put in this role, I didn't take this on as my own personal crusade, you had a huge hand in it and you know it and you know why. Now that I make a comment or two privately that you don't like, you pull this. That is fine, it is your right. I wouldn't deny you it.

As you say, I suggest to you good sir, that calm down before you post and maybe you will be actually able to read what someone is saying instead of taking things the wrong way or reading something that is just not there.

This is not about me, this is about everyone, men and women and how we can co -exist happily, safely and respectfully. What is wrong with that????

HH
 
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