Why don't all the players say f****** to the NHL and start another Canadian league?
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Why don't all the owners say f*** *** to the players and sign up AHL players for a signing bonus of $1MM each and a salary of $1MM each. I am sure the fans and viewers would support them whole heartedly.
The current NHLPA can go to hell.
There are always two sides to every story
Personally, I think the players are extremely well compensated and the owners deserve a return on their investment for the financial risk they take on.
If all the teams were making obscene profits, the players would have a reasonable argument for claiming more of the revenue
The fact of the matter is three teams (Toronto, Rangers and Montreal) make real profits and the rest lose $
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbad...about-the-benjamins-and-who-doesnt-have-them/
This is not sustainable and threatens the long term viability of the league
The players need a reality check
The current NHLPA can go to hell.
There are always two sides to every story
Personally, I think the players are extremely well compensated and the owners deserve a return on their investment for the financial risk they take on.
If all the teams were making obscene profits, the players would have a reasonable argument for claiming more of the revenue
The fact of the matter is three teams (Toronto, Rangers and Montreal) make real profits and the rest lose $
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbad...about-the-benjamins-and-who-doesnt-have-them/
This is not sustainable and threatens the long term viability of the league
The players need a reality check
People with far better business acumen have tried to start professional sports leagues and have fallen flat on their face. I wouldn't invest $1 into a player-run Canadian league. Fans don't really care about the players themselves, they care about the franchises. If a players-league team in Toronto (even one loaded with stars) had to face the return of the Toronto Maple Leafs with lesser players, fans would flock back to the NHL.
I promised my 8 year old nice I would take her to two Leaf games this year. For some reason her favourite team are the Bruins (says she likes bears and their uniforms). Yeah, she is heartbroken.
And you'd pay how much to watch the owners skate around?
The players are worth nothing without the League, and it's worth nothing without the players. The owners locked out the players to force them to give up money they had previously contracted to pay, now they have to live with the consequences of their strategy. It's rather obvious from recent events that what's standing in the way of settlement has more to to with macho ego than money. But unlike a hockey game, in this sort of contest, no one wins by defeating the other. Get the 'winning is the only thing' bozos onto the sidelines and the thing should settle pretty fast.
Most or all the owners have real businesses where they make their money. To them, NHL hockey is just a hobby and not a business.
I suppose each player can go indie (like SP's) and charge us $250 an hour to watch them skate around and shoot the puck.
I wouldn't pay to see him skate, but back in the day I'd pay to see Ballard checked into the boards
Doesn't mean they're prepared to lose money on their hobby, although it may well mean some of them think with their little heads—so to speak—when signing deals that they can't pay for.
Whether hobby or business—and MLSE is certainly the latter—this dustup was kicked off by owners demanding a rollback or they'd do a lockout. Now it's a hobby for all, 'cause no one's making any money.
Until the owners come up with a way to convince the boys who sell the tickets to let them break their promises, they're gonna have to wait until everyone's hurting as bad as the hobbyists who made the bad bets. Or until they can get the egos gagged so those without axes to grind can do a deal that works for all.
If everybody was being fair the situation in the NHL could be solved quite easily. Have a flat salary range for players whereby rookies make $xxxK and the base salary increases with years of seniority. Have standard bonus or multipliers for performance (i.e. goals, assists, block shots, hits, etc) ideally in reference to other players. Have large incentives for team performance (i.e. team wins cup, wins conference, makes playoffs). Weight it towards the team performance and you will see great hockey all season as players have to play for the extra money and teams would be paying these extra multipliers for success so they would be getting an ROI guaranteed. The big stumbling block of course is that players would have to perform to earn top dollars...
As I have heard the NHLPA's intention was to start the current year under the old CBA and keep the negotiations going until playoff time at which time they would go out on strike. I understand player's salaries paid out on regular season games only - not playoffs. Owner profits really made via playoff appearences. If what I hear is true, no wonder the owners locked them out before season even began.
Because to the typical Canadian sports fan it must be minor league if it is not American based and controlled. Look at the CFL, a vastly more interesting game than the NFL. Hated by the American lovers here in Toronto.
You always take the view that an owner (city or company) who signs a deal is a fool for doing so if they lose money on the contract.
Yet at the same time lefties will scream bloody murder if a wage or benefit once granted is placed on the table for negotiation (ie. Teachers sick days)
You want it both ways
In the NHLs case they signed 6 or 8 years ago that was premised on increased revenue and certain assumptions about players contracts and contract length.
Enter the agent , who creatively develops new contract terms outside of the profit model which was the basis for signing the deal.
Fast forward to today & there are still teams losing money ( a lot of them) and contracts have grown in size and duration
So the owners would be fools to sign another deal that does not collectively protect themselves and control costs
I would lock the greedy bastards out as well and I would replace them with the next top 500 players @ 1 MM per
5- 10 years from now the NHL would be a financially healthy league with the best players and no one would care what happened to Scottie Upshaw or Ryan Miller
They would have wasted their talent during their prime earning years and for what?
Because they wanted $5 MM a year and not $ 3.25 MM
Greed should be spelled U..N..I..O,,N
For the next generation of players. Many of these players won't be around for the full duration of the next agreement, some won't be around for half of it, heck some may not have a job when they begin again. But they have to fight for what they have. If they surrender too much now they won't have anything to protect next CBA.
The PA is not a union, despite this common misconception. If it were a union, then these players would have their job secured for many more years, salaries would be relatively equal and all that.
The PA wants their players to get as much as they can because a high tide raises all ships. The more the top guy gets, the more the bottom guy gets. This isn't about the Sydney Crosbys getting more money, it's about the Tyler Bozaks.
The league got the salary cap they wanted. They got the rollback. They won the last lockout. It cost Bob Goodenow his job! The owners got the financial stability they claimed they needed. But they stupidly put in the salary floor which forced teams to spend more than they could. They didn't foresee owners giving out 15 year deals to circumvent the salary cap.
When this next CBA comes about, the teams will find a way around it and the league will cry poor again and need the players to take even more of a cut. That is why the players are rightfully fighting against this.
