Why has not one single right winger defended trumps comment....

[Boober69]

It's not Trump. It's the entire set up wherein the plutocrats have now captured the GOP and installed a world wide propaganda network. Trump is the compliant figurehead. But it could equally be Boris Johnson, Doug Ford, Kenney or..... Rubio or Cruz or McConnell.

All of those guys would say and do pretty much exactly the same. The days of the "principled conservative" are over. The "red tory" is extinct. Those guys would be humiliated and forced out of the CPC or GOP as "RINO's".

The extremists billionaire class - like the Murdoch's, Koch's and Mercers - control entire TV networks (like Fox News) and the British tabloid press,

Add in that right wing talk radio, including figures like Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh have been pushing the same "heartland conservative" message of hate for the educated and urban for 30 years and pumping out conspiracy theories. Add in that the US especially is heavily gerrymandered into extreme conservative voting bastions.

People like JCPro and Boober believe this junk because it harnesses their anger and frustration and directs it at some kind of nebulous but evil enemy - "the traitor democrats", "the fake news New York TImes", the "coastal elites". Guys like JC need some type of target for their frustration, so the Right creates "enemies" and "targets" and directs that frustration. THAT'S why Boober doesn't get how incompetent and sleazy Trump is. He's always redirected onto another target, which gives him emotional rewards when he attacks it and his board buddies join in.

Says the guy spinning a conspiracy story.
Doug Ford part of your global conspiracy! Haha
You guys are nuts!

However I do commend you on your paranoid rage...it makes for great entertainment through these troubled times!

Ps I don’t see you guys commending Ford on the way he has been leading the province on this pandemic, I guess it doesn’t fit your narrative.
Pity.

 

[smallhatchet]

I'm willing to accept that its possible that even you are smarter than Trump.

Haha, tell my wife that!

 

[shack]

Sorry Shack. Tensions seem to get high like we discussed previously when it comes to politics. It seems like the constant ribbing by a sibling or friend as a child that never seems to end till you blow up one day and enough is enough. Its only after that in that scenario 1 person knows it went too far and the other knows the reaction was a little harsh. Again, sorry.

To answer your question about Trump knowing it was going to be a pandemic before it was declared,,,, I'll tell you this.....Even I knew it was going to be a pandemic and was surprised daily that it wasnt till now.

I wonder if I knew before Trump? LOL

If anyone is simple enough to think that this issue was going to stay in China, should seriously re-think things.

Overall, a post I can respect. And I admit that some of the things posted makes my blood boil, and my fingers fly as evil thoughts enter my mind. Like that the leftists are cheering because the markets are crashing. And IMO, getting upset about being sickeningly smeared like that is justification for getting pissed.

Regardless, you have not addressed the question in the title of my thread.

If trump clearly and undeniably makes such a ridiculous claim, why are the right incapable of admitting that he made a dumb and totally apparent mistake? Why, why , why? We get attacked (circle jerk, hysterical etc.) for pointing out the TRUTH. If it wasn't the truth there would have been some sort of defense, BUT THERE HAS BEEN NONE, and after 2 or 3 days probably none will be forthcoming.

So by refusing or being unable to acknowledge that the world is round even after seeing pictures from space they lose any semblance of credibility that they can look at anything trump with any degree of objectivity. Once again, they attack us for saying that we are not objective and only criticize him then they take that exact tactic in the reverse by never, ever criticizing him.

I hope this makes some sense.

 

[shack]

Last I checked I wasn’t part of your interrogation...you sound angry...is self-isolation taking its toll on your inner rage?
So after insulting me you want more answers?
I think I proved my point...they don’t call them the Loonie Left for nothing.

I admit that I get angry. See post 43.

 

[shack]

Last I checked I wasn’t part of your interrogation
I think I proved my point..

BTW, one question does not an interrogation make. As yet, not one single, solitary rightie has tried to defend his claim.

So I admit you proved a point, but by giving no answer, it was mine that you helped prove. Nobody has tried to defend him and tell us that they believe him when he says he knew it was going to be a pandemic before the experts. That is the title of this thread. That is the point that you and the other righties continue to validate. Thanks for being so helpful, unintentional as it was.

 

[Frankfooter]

I don't give a shit because is irrelevant. It's Trump being Trump; right, wrong or close enough. But, exactly the same guy as the piece I read on him in Fortune, back in the eighties. You people are losing your shit over nothing.

The US is now experiencing the third highest increase of infections globally. On record to take that dubious lead today.
And you're right, its totally Trump being Trump.
Dump the motherfucker.

 

[smallhatchet]

"The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation, far beyond what the facts would warrant," Trump tweeted at the time.

I dont think Trump is lying with his statement.

Remember, Trump is screwed no matter what he says or does in the eyes of the media.

Honestly, when news broke out about the infection and death rates in China, did anyone actually believe it was going to stay in China?

The flu comes from Asia EVERY YEAR. Why wouldnt we think COVID19 wasnt going to come here?

Many people in the media limelight touted about how good a recession would be for America. Only problem was that it was coming from the mouths of Democrat supporting people. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v..._get_rid_of_trump_bring_on_the_recession.html

https://www.dailywire.com/news/holl...-americans-to-shut-down-economy-to-oust-trump

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/economy/global-recession/index.html


Well, here we are.

Trump knew it was just a matter of time before this would happen. The man was stalked from the start of his political career and the swamp who runs America, and some of the world are out to save themselves and bury Trump.

BTW, China is back to 100% work force. No vaccine, no worries.

 

[Frankfooter]

[Trump knew it was just a matter of time before this would happen

Why wasn't he prepared for it?
Why did his message change so much?

https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/...020/03/19/supercut-of-trump-saying-coron.html

 

[jcpro]

"The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation, far beyond what the facts would warrant," Trump tweeted at the time.

I dont think Trump is lying with his statement.

Remember, Trump is screwed no matter what he says or does in the eyes of the media.

Honestly, when news broke out about the infection and death rates in China, did anyone actually believe it was going to stay in China?

The flu comes from Asia EVERY YEAR. Why wouldnt we think COVID19 wasnt going to come here?

Many people in the media limelight touted about how good a recession would be for America. Only problem was that it was coming from the mouths of Democrat supporting people. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v..._get_rid_of_trump_bring_on_the_recession.html

https://www.dailywire.com/news/holl...-americans-to-shut-down-economy-to-oust-trump

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/economy/global-recession/index.html


Well, here we are.

Trump knew it was just a matter of time before this would happen. The man was stalked from the start of his political career and the swamp who runs America, and some of the world are out to save themselves and bury Trump.

BTW, China is back to 100% work force. No vaccine, no worries.

When the news first came out nobody gave a shit. It was all impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.

 

[Frankfooter]

When the news first came out nobody gave a shit. It was all impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.

Trump was impeached and done before the virus hit China in Dec.
Nice try at deflection.

 

[shack]

Why wasn't he prepared for it?
Why did his message change so much?

https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/...020/03/19/supercut-of-trump-saying-coron.html

I'd be interested in seeing a timeline as to when WHO made the call, keeping in mind people were speculating about a possible pandemic weeks before WHO's announcement and trump's public comments saying that they are prepared and have it under control and there's nothing to worry about etc. If he truly knew, he should have made no such comments downplaying the severity at least a month before WHO's announcement and even what he said immediately after.

It would prove that he was not being honest with the American public and a crisis is PRECISELY the time that people NEED the truth from their leaders.

So the timeline of his comments and the WHO's warnings and declaration are important.

 

[jcpro]

I'd be interested in seeing a timeline as to when WHO made the call, keeping in mind people were speculating about a possible pandemic weeks before WHO's announcement and trump's public comments saying that they are prepared and have it under control and there's nothing to worry about etc. If he truly knew, he should have made no such comments downplaying the severity at least a month before WHO's announcement and even what he said immediately after.

It would prove that he was not being honest with the American public and a crisis is PRECISELY the time that people NEED the truth from their leaders.

So the timeline of his comments and the WHO's warnings and declaration are important.

Fyi. This is a tweet from January 14, 2020 from WHO:
Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China����.

 

[Frankfooter]

Fyi. This is a tweet from January 14, 2020 from WHO:
Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China����.

On Dec 31 there were 27 cases
Jan 9 China identified it as a new virus
Jan 20 China confirmed human to human transmission
https://www.vox.com/2020/1/21/21075017/coronavirus-sars-wuhan-china-pneumonia

The Lancet did some digging and found that the virus really started around Dec 2.
https://www.vox.com/2020/1/27/21082354/coronavirus-outbreak-wuhan-china-early-on-lancet

Its possible that China held on to info for a bit, but one week later the WHO knew, and that's really only 2 weeks from identifying it as a new virus.

 

[shack]

Fyi. This is a tweet from January 14, 2020 from WHO:
Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China����.

trump's statement did not refer to that time frame. The WHO declared it a pandemic on March 11. trump said that he knew long before. I saw comments from him less than two weeks earlier that downplayed the issue.

1)that is not a long time earlier, which makes his boast a lie. There may not have been a declaration yet, but many people were already speculating about it and using that term. Therefore he lied with boast of knowing so much earlier than anybody else.

2)but, even if that qualifies as being prescient, it means he was downplaying it when he supposedly knew how serious it would be. He lied to the American public as to what they should expect.

Either way, his boast of knowing long before, puts him in a bad light

 

[bver_hunter]

trump's statement did not refer to that time frame. The WHO declared it a pandemic on March 11. trump said that he knew long before. I saw comments from him less than two weeks earlier that downplayed the issue.

1)that is not a long time earlier, which makes his boast a lie. There may not have been a declaration yet, but many people were already speculating about it and using that term. Therefore he lied with boast of knowing so much earlier than anybody else.

2)but, even if that qualifies as being prescient, it means he was downplaying it when he supposedly knew how serious it would be. He lied to the American public as to what they should expect.

Either way, his boast of knowing long before, puts him in a bad light

Trump abolished the NSC Pandemic unit in spite of being briefed about the repercussions of doing so. Very sad indeed that so many Americans now are infected, and some of them will be paying for it with their lives!!

 

[oil&gas]

People have long got used to all the bizarre things
said or tweeted by Trump to the public. There are
right wingers and Trump's supporters who come
to the defence of Trump's policies every once in
a while. It is not like these people have been known
to be fond of Trump's character and conduct which
they have learned to look past. At least that is
my impression.

 

[Boober69]

On Dec 31 there were 27 cases
Jan 9 China identified it as a new virus
Jan 20 China confirmed human to human transmission
https://www.vox.com/2020/1/21/21075017/coronavirus-sars-wuhan-china-pneumonia

The Lancet did some digging and found that the virus really started around Dec 2.
https://www.vox.com/2020/1/27/21082354/coronavirus-outbreak-wuhan-china-early-on-lancet

Its possible that China held on to info for a bit, but one week later the WHO knew, and that's really only 2 weeks from identifying it as a new virus.

Didn’t people say Trump was being racist when he said he wanted to ban flights from China due to the virus?

 

[Frankfooter]

Didn’t people say Trump was being racist when he said he wanted to ban flights from China due to the virus?

Didn't people say that fake news boober isn't to be trusted and makes stuff up?

 

[Gooseifur]

Shack started another anti-Trump thread. What a surprise. Why would you defend something you don't believe? If everyone was a cultist like you say they are everyone would have defended it. Your post is insulting and repugnant.

 

[shack]

Shack started another anti-Trump thread. What a surprise. Why would you defend something you don't believe? If everyone was a cultist like you say they are everyone would have defended it. Your post is insulting and repugnant.

Do you believe trump when he said that he knew that it would be a pandemic before the experts did?

To suggest anyone would cheer for a crash for the sake of scoring political points is insulting and repugnant. You are vile.