Why no on going BP oil spill thread ??
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No I will not chillLOL!
There you go again!
Chill DUDE!
Your getting funnier than JAJA, no!....
Absolutely not.
If you are going to make a statement about what I have said, get it right or say nothing
Do that and keep the cock-sucker insults out of any discussion and I will display a certain level of civility.
If you are not mature enough to debate with a certain level of respect and accuracy then I will get pissed off and you do not want that.
Come on Larue you are one of the better thinking Terbites
Look at the cost of the Iraq oil war alone ( trillions of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ) and that is only one of many smaller wars that have and are occurring
What happens when there is a world wide oil crises and China and Russia and the free world start a bigger war ???
Not to mention the cost of lives and damage to the Eco system and global warming
It is up to the governments to create the technology that capitalism will then give to the world
The cost is too great for corporations alone
While the world's scientists are at it they can create a technology to diminish Hurricanes, tornadoes, desalt the ocean water etc
it is a viable long term business decision for the world to do this
Our tax dollars could not be better spent
Fly to ther moon , Hubble telescope, space shuttle, atom smashers and now they want to fly to Mars
This is no way to put our geniuses to work when the world has vital problems only science can solve
But O'Bama is responsible !
He has stated the government agency to oversee the gulf is too cozy with the oil firms
He has been in charge of this agency for 2 years !
They were too cozy before he was in office as well
Why did he not know this before now ???????????
Because he is incompetent ! What other reason could there be !
BIG OIL has too much influence over BOTH parties!
They probably feel they own them BOTH!
This has been going on for many many years.
Carter was the only recent POTUS who tried to break away from BIG OIL influence and all he did was reversed by brainless Ronnie Reagan!....
Here, chew on this for a while before you decide in haste that we need to fund a Manhattan Type project.
The added costs to reduce emissions are estimated to $13B for Canadian Motorists, Car Makers and Fuel suppliers. That is for Canada alone (The USA is approx 10X as much)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...icle-emissions/article1579448/?cmpid=nl-bizt1
Probably a worthwhile endeavor. If only to ensure we do not kill off our species 100 to 200 years down the line
This $13B would be pocket change relative to the investment required to run a Manhattan type of project to replace fossil fuels (& no guarantee that it would succeed!!!)
Do not get too discouraged as most bright and well intended ideas do not move forward once the true costs are determined
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/25/oil.spill.interior/index.html
Oil inspectors took company gifts, watchdog group finds
By the CNN Wire Staff
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Report: Inspectors got meals, tickets to sports events from companies they monitored
Events in report predate Deepwater Horizon blast; rig standards to be investigated
Agency says "the acceptance of gifts from oil and gas companies" was widespread
Coziness between some in Minerals Management Service, oil and gas industry alleged
Washington (CNN) -- Federal inspectors overseeing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico accepted meals and tickets to sporting events from companies they monitored, the Interior Department's inspector general concluded in a report released Wednesday.
In one case, an inspector in the Minerals Management Service office in Lake Charles, Louisiana, conducted inspections of four offshore platforms while negotiating a job with the company, the report states. Others let oil and gas company workers fill out their inspection forms in pencil, with the inspectors writing over those entries in ink before turning them in.
Some in the same office accepted tickets to the 2005 Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl, a college football bowl game in Atlanta, Georgia. One inspector told an office clerk, "Everyone has gotten some sort of gift before at some point" from companies they regulated, according to the report.
Investigators from the inspector general's office, the Interior Department's independent watchdog agency, took their findings to federal prosecutors in Louisiana, the report states. But the U.S. attorney's office in Lake Charles declined to bring charges, according to the report.
Full coverage of the Gulf oil spill
"Through numerous interviews, we found a culture where the acceptance of gifts from oil and gas companies were widespread throughout that office," the report states. However, that culture waned after a supervisor in the agency's New Orleans, Louisiana, regional office was fired for taking a gift from a regulated company in 2007, the report found.
The period covered in the report is well before the April explosion that sank the oil rig Deepwater Horizon, resulting in a massive oil spill that well owner BP and federal authorities are trying to cap a month later. But Mary Kendall, the Interior Department's acting inspector general, said she pushed for the report's early release in the wake of the disaster.
"Of greatest concern to me is the environment in which these inspectors operate -- particularly the ease with which they move between industry and government," Kendall wrote in a letter to Interior Secretary Ken Salazar. Many of the inspectors joined MMS from the industry and had relationships with people in the business that originated "well before they took their jobs with industry or government."
Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, said the report showed the agency's safety enforcement procedures need an extensive overhaul.
"They're supposed to be the cops on the beat, and instead they're out tailgating at sports events with people they're supposed to be policing," said Wyden, who leads a Senate Environment subcommittee on public lands. "That's just not acceptable."
The Lake Charles investigation was launched shortly after another scandal emerged from within the MMS. A September 2008 inspector general's report found regulators in the agency's Colorado office received improper gifts from energy industry representatives and engaged in illegal drug use and inappropriate sexual relations with them.
Salazar, who has ordered a widespread shake-up of the agency since the Deepwater Horizon disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, called Tuesday's report "yet another reason to clean house."
"This deeply disturbing report is further evidence of the cozy relationship between some elements of MMS and the oil and gas industry," Salazar said in a statement on the report. He pledged to follow through with the inspector general's recommendations, "including taking any and all appropriate personnel actions including termination, discipline and referrals of any wrongdoing for criminal prosecution."
While the report predates the Deepwater Horizon spill, Salazar said he has asked Kendall to investigate whether inspectors failed to enforce standards aboard the rig. Its sinking left 11 men lost at sea and oil spilling into the Gulf.
Kendall is scheduled to appear before the House Natural Resources Committee on Wednesday. Wyden said Salazar "is heading in the right direction" by reorganizing the agency, but he said MMS needs a bigger shakeup.
"Secretary Salazar has moved, in my view, as it relates to royalty payments and financial irregularities," he said. "Now he has got to come down with hobnail boots on some of these ethical violations, and drain the safety swamp."
MMS collected nearly $10 billion in royalties from the energy and mining industries in 2009. Salazar announced last week that he was splitting up the agency to separate its energy development, enforcement and revenue collection divisions, saying they have conflicting missions.
The associate director for the agency's Offshore Minerals Management Program is leaving at the end of May, a month earlier than planned, in the wake of the Gulf spill.
That official, Chris Oynes, launched the investigation that resulted in former New Orleans, Louisiana, supervisor Donald Howard's firing in 2007. Howard later pleaded guilty after being accused of failing to report gifts from an offshore drilling contractor valued at more than $6,600, according to the report.
Danielle Brian, executive director of the nonprofit Project on Government Oversight, said earlier this month that the agency has been lax about collecting royalties from an industry it sees as "a partner, a client."
She pointed out that Randall Luthi, its previous director, left at the end of the Bush administration to become president of the National Ocean Industries Association, the trade association that represents offshore drillers.
"That really gives you a picture of the people who have been running the shop here," Brian said.
Oil inspectors took company gifts, watchdog group finds
By the CNN Wire Staff
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Report: Inspectors got meals, tickets to sports events from companies they monitored
Events in report predate Deepwater Horizon blast; rig standards to be investigated
Agency says "the acceptance of gifts from oil and gas companies" was widespread
Coziness between some in Minerals Management Service, oil and gas industry alleged
Washington (CNN) -- Federal inspectors overseeing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico accepted meals and tickets to sporting events from companies they monitored, the Interior Department's inspector general concluded in a report released Wednesday.
In one case, an inspector in the Minerals Management Service office in Lake Charles, Louisiana, conducted inspections of four offshore platforms while negotiating a job with the company, the report states. Others let oil and gas company workers fill out their inspection forms in pencil, with the inspectors writing over those entries in ink before turning them in.
Some in the same office accepted tickets to the 2005 Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl, a college football bowl game in Atlanta, Georgia. One inspector told an office clerk, "Everyone has gotten some sort of gift before at some point" from companies they regulated, according to the report.
Investigators from the inspector general's office, the Interior Department's independent watchdog agency, took their findings to federal prosecutors in Louisiana, the report states. But the U.S. attorney's office in Lake Charles declined to bring charges, according to the report.
Full coverage of the Gulf oil spill
"Through numerous interviews, we found a culture where the acceptance of gifts from oil and gas companies were widespread throughout that office," the report states. However, that culture waned after a supervisor in the agency's New Orleans, Louisiana, regional office was fired for taking a gift from a regulated company in 2007, the report found.
The period covered in the report is well before the April explosion that sank the oil rig Deepwater Horizon, resulting in a massive oil spill that well owner BP and federal authorities are trying to cap a month later. But Mary Kendall, the Interior Department's acting inspector general, said she pushed for the report's early release in the wake of the disaster.
"Of greatest concern to me is the environment in which these inspectors operate -- particularly the ease with which they move between industry and government," Kendall wrote in a letter to Interior Secretary Ken Salazar. Many of the inspectors joined MMS from the industry and had relationships with people in the business that originated "well before they took their jobs with industry or government."
Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, said the report showed the agency's safety enforcement procedures need an extensive overhaul.
"They're supposed to be the cops on the beat, and instead they're out tailgating at sports events with people they're supposed to be policing," said Wyden, who leads a Senate Environment subcommittee on public lands. "That's just not acceptable."
The Lake Charles investigation was launched shortly after another scandal emerged from within the MMS. A September 2008 inspector general's report found regulators in the agency's Colorado office received improper gifts from energy industry representatives and engaged in illegal drug use and inappropriate sexual relations with them.
Salazar, who has ordered a widespread shake-up of the agency since the Deepwater Horizon disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, called Tuesday's report "yet another reason to clean house."
"This deeply disturbing report is further evidence of the cozy relationship between some elements of MMS and the oil and gas industry," Salazar said in a statement on the report. He pledged to follow through with the inspector general's recommendations, "including taking any and all appropriate personnel actions including termination, discipline and referrals of any wrongdoing for criminal prosecution."
While the report predates the Deepwater Horizon spill, Salazar said he has asked Kendall to investigate whether inspectors failed to enforce standards aboard the rig. Its sinking left 11 men lost at sea and oil spilling into the Gulf.
Kendall is scheduled to appear before the House Natural Resources Committee on Wednesday. Wyden said Salazar "is heading in the right direction" by reorganizing the agency, but he said MMS needs a bigger shakeup.
"Secretary Salazar has moved, in my view, as it relates to royalty payments and financial irregularities," he said. "Now he has got to come down with hobnail boots on some of these ethical violations, and drain the safety swamp."
MMS collected nearly $10 billion in royalties from the energy and mining industries in 2009. Salazar announced last week that he was splitting up the agency to separate its energy development, enforcement and revenue collection divisions, saying they have conflicting missions.
The associate director for the agency's Offshore Minerals Management Program is leaving at the end of May, a month earlier than planned, in the wake of the Gulf spill.
That official, Chris Oynes, launched the investigation that resulted in former New Orleans, Louisiana, supervisor Donald Howard's firing in 2007. Howard later pleaded guilty after being accused of failing to report gifts from an offshore drilling contractor valued at more than $6,600, according to the report.
Danielle Brian, executive director of the nonprofit Project on Government Oversight, said earlier this month that the agency has been lax about collecting royalties from an industry it sees as "a partner, a client."
She pointed out that Randall Luthi, its previous director, left at the end of the Bush administration to become president of the National Ocean Industries Association, the trade association that represents offshore drillers.
"That really gives you a picture of the people who have been running the shop here," Brian said.
No! The idea of my Manhattan project is for science to evolve alternative energy to the point it is viable
Then hand the technology over to capitalism and they can distribute it to the masses
because the investment is too great for capitalism governments must take over
The economic savings in the preventing of oil wars alone would easily pay for the project many fold
No
It will cost way more than you can imagine & there is no guarantee
I case you had not noticed, governments around the globe are struggling with their debt
Quite simply they can not afford such a project
