Will Biden step down?

Leimonis

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How about the 25th? Methinks there will be a legit case in the eyes of many Americans. And it won't matter if it works. The optics of a cabal of advisors protecting a senile old man to hold their power positions will be a default position.

And that is anti democracy in their eyes.
I would trust a cabal of advisors over one authoritarian criminal any day of the week
 

Skoob

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I'm sure she could also beat your rapist felon choice.
But why stick to just her as a choice, shouldn't a democracy mean you get to consider all candidates?

Why are you so fixated on choosing for the dems the person you think your rapist has the best chance to beat?
Is it your need to try to prove that black people are lesser people?
Many of your comrades here said that they should replace Biden with Newsom.
When I asked why not Kamala, the answers were mostly because they thought she couldn't beat Trump.

When I asked why do they think she couldn't beat Trump, they said that she's not qualified and not the "best" candidate.

When I asked why they think she's not qualified or the best candidate considering she's the US VP and was elected for that role, you stepped in and immediately suggested my questions were racist in nature.

Aside from living up to the leftist trait of calling people racists when they dare ask a question that makes them uncomfortable for some reason, you and the others still can't answer the simple question.

So unless you and your comrades can actually provide a sensible answer I'll provide one:

Because you don't think the American people (i.e. Democrats) would vote for a black woman for the role of POTUS.

So who are the racists here?

I'll wait for your answer while you sort out your hypocrisy...
 
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Many of your comrades here said that they should replace Biden with Newsom.
When I asked why not Kamala, the answers were mostly because they thought she couldn't beat Trump.

When I asked why do they think she couldn't beat Trump, they said that she's not qualified and not the "best" candidate.

When I asked why they think she's not qualified or the best candidate considering she's the US VP and was elected for that role, you stepped in and immediately suggested my questions were racist in nature.

Aside from living up to the leftist trait of calling people racists when they dare ask a question that makes them uncomfortable for some reason, you and the others still can't answer the simple question.

So unless you and your comrades can actually provide a sensible answer I'll provide one:

Because you don't think the American people (i.e. Democrats) would vote for a black woman for the role of POTUS.

So who are the racists here?

I'll wait for your answer while you sort out your hypocrisy...
Michelle Obama would be the choice if they were looking for a black woman, skoob, but she won't run.
My own choice might be Witmer first, Stein second and any other dem.

We'll see who the party picks.
You, however will keep trying to back someone you know they won't pick because she isn't popular and trying to claim its because of race. Even though we know you're only pushing this line because you are racist yourself.

You still are backing a felon rapist who will likely be forced to close his NY business. During the debate rump used 'Palestinian' as the new 'N' word and declared immigrants are taking 'black' jobs. Anyone still backing him after that clearly cares shit about race.
 

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Michelle Obama would be the choice if they were looking for a black woman, skoob, but she won't run.
My own choice might be Witmer first, Stein second and any other dem.

We'll see who the party picks.
What would make Obama more qualified than Kamala?
 

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What would make Obama more qualified than Kamala?
Both have the skills to do the job but one is more popular and more likely to win.
That makes her more qualified to run.

Why do you back a racist who has turned 'Palestinian' into the new 'N' word, skoob?
Why do you back someone who is so racist he thinks there are 'black' jobs?

What makes you qualified to think you have informed opinions?
 

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Given Biden's limited dynamism on the campaign trail, the Democrats should be concerned that Biden has hit a ceiling.

I wouldn't rule out that Newsom and perhaps other Dems could improve their numbers. They would improve on their name recognition, demonstrate vigor and have a chance to articulate their vision. They would also have a ton of money to run ads shaping their candidacy. As importantly, Liberal media will give them and their surrogates massive amounts of coverage as they should.
 

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I would trust a cabal of advisors over one authoritarian criminal any day of the week
You're certainly entitled to your opinion of Trump and where to place your trust. However, I think you are deliberately dismissing the jeopardy and antidemocratic nature of the situation. Biden's cabal (as you call it) was trying to hold on to power by propping up a less than capable President by concealing his ageing. Who knows how long this has been going on? This didn't just hit Biden in June 2024.

Getting back to Trump, what you see is what you get. There's no smoke and mirrors. Does he want to be an autocratic President? Maybe. I'm not too concerned. Republican legislators never gave him everything that he wanted. Trump can't even ensure his handpicked candidates win Republican primaries let alone general elections. Several times I called out members who from one post to the next said Trump didn't get much done and yet they said he was an autocrat.

The mask of the cabal was taken off at the debate. If Biden runs and wins, at least the voters made the choice. I just don't know how the "cabal" hides President Biden from here on out.
 
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Both have the skills to do the job but one is more popular and more likely to win.
That makes her more qualified to run.

Why do you back a racist who has turned 'Palestinian' into the new 'N' word, skoob?
Why do you back someone who is so racist he thinks there are 'black' jobs?

What makes you qualified to think you have informed opinions?
Why would you think both have the skills?
Have you compared both of their resumes? It's obvious Harris has much more experience, especially in politics.

So it's not about qualifications.

Show me how you have determined Obama is more popular.
 

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Why would you think both have the skills?
Have you compared both of their resumes? It's obvious Harris has much more experience, especially in politics.

So it's not about qualifications.

Show me how you have determined Obama is more popular.
No, skoob.
Enough of the trolling.

You are backing someone who declared there are 'black jobs'.
Clearly you support that view.

This is clearly about you declaring that POTUS is not a 'black job'.
 

Skoob

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No, skoob.
Enough of the trolling.

You are backing someone who declared there are 'black jobs'.
Clearly you support that view.

This is clearly about you declaring that POTUS is not a 'black job'.
Why are you changing the subject?

No need to reply...I know why: your usual distraction tactics where you try and steer the conversation away to something else.

Here's your checklist...

- jump into someone else's conversation: check
- blurt out some irrelevant info to distract: check
- accuse the person of trolling when you disagree with them or don't like the question they asked: check
- accuse the person of being racist when you disagree with them or don't like the question they asked: check
 

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Why are you changing the subject?

No need to reply...I know why: your usual distraction tactics where you try and steer the conversation away to something else.

Here's your checklist...

- jump into someone else's conversation: check
- blurt out some irrelevant info to distract: check
- accuse the person of trolling when you disagree with them or don't like the question they asked: check
- accuse the person of being racist when you disagree with them or don't like the question they asked: check
Its the same subject, skoob.
You're on the attack because you agree with rump that POTUS isn't a 'black job', so you are trying to attack Harris.
 

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The mask of the cabal was taken off at the debate. If Biden runs and wins, at least the voters made the choice. I just don't know how the "cabal" hides President Biden from here on out.
They can't hide him...The jig is up.

Even worse is he's not going to improve.

How long can they keep having him read off teleprompters between 10 am and 4 pm.

I also heard that because Kamala and Newsom are both from California they can't run on the same ticket. So if Newsom comes in then Kamala is out. Which I think is good but that can't sit well with her. She did aspire for the presidency at one time...They have some difficult decisions to make.
 
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The big issue they have is replacing Biden means admitting they KNEW HOW BAD HE WAS. And were willing to put him in anyway. That reflects on the whole party and will affect independent voters.
What a bunch of bullshit. Do you really think the republicans do not know Trump is an inhuman psychopath? Reverse the role before writing such shit.
 
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What a bunch of bullshit. Do you really think the republicans do not know Trump is an inhuman psychopath? Reverse the role before writing such shit.
This is exactly what butler has been dreaming of for years, someone to tear down and destroy the US entirely so that a socialist utopia can rise in its ashes.
Butler loves him because he will destroy the US.
 

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What a bunch of bullshit. Do you really think the republicans do not know Trump is an inhuman psychopath? Reverse the role before writing such shit.
Bad as in his cognative ability. This didn't just start. There are stories out about how his closest aids manage his schedule and Jill Biden leads on this. That he is only "good" between 10-4 and that is when they schedule things.

So no, not bullshit. His time is past. He is not capable now of living up to requirements of the office and will only get worse.
 

Leimonis

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Bad as in his cognative ability. This didn't just start. There are stories out about how his closest aids manage his schedule and Jill Biden leads on this. That he is only "good" between 10-4 and that is when they schedule things.

So no, not bullshit. His time is past. He is not capable now of living up to requirements of the office and will only get worse.
So is America better off being led by a criminal or by a dying man and his associates?
 

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So is America better off being led by a criminal or by a dying man and his associates?
Would you you prefer to be shot or knifed to death.......

But honestly it wouldn't be the first time criminals were in power and the nation survived. Beyond that what you are saying is you think that setting the precedent of electing a figurehead who isn't capable of doing the job due to health reasons is a valid choice. And allowing non vetted and appointed people to make decisions for the nation. So I will turn it around as well.

Trump wins, has cognitive issues, and it's Steve Bannon types running the show. Do you support that notion?

There is no valid choice.
 
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