Will we make contact with alien life in the next 10 years?

[Yoga Face]

OK


argument against UFOs and government cover up


if we are being visited by UFOs and it is covered up then why has SETI not heard any signals ? and why would the government even allow SETI to even exist ? and if our side is aware of UFOs then most governments must also be aware so all world governments are covering this shit up ?


but the bigger question is if life is common then some species have come and gone for billions of years but some must have explored the universe so where are they ?

 

[SkyRider]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...w-planet-kepler-space-telescope-10410960.html

Earth II

 

[onthebottom]

I don't think we are alone but we are all separated by so much distance and time (effectively the same thing) that we may as well be.

 

[MrAndersonNEO]

Why the hell would a race from an other world want to contact us. We cant even get along with the people on our own planet let alone another one.

True..

 

[Yoga Face]

Earth's been prime real estate for about a billion years and nobody has shown up, as far as we know; so, I would say no.
No Romulans or Vulcans or whatever will show up.

the question is will we make contact IE find their signals

SETI is being greatly enhanced with the help of Hawkins and a billionaire friend

If we do not make contact that will be as significant as if we do

 

[bishop]

My theory is that all/most advanced civilizations realise how awful our universe is for life in the long term, there is probably some place far far away in this universe or perhaps outside our universe that is more stable and conducive to an eternal or almost eternal existence. Once a civilization has advanced enough to reach that place on their own, they would get their own little plot of land (or space or whatever) for their civilization next to other advanced civilizations. You would not want to take a vacation in a slum, that is why no aliens have visited earth or if they have visited; do not want to stick around.

It is sorta like living in detroit and wondering why you do not see rich people around and then conclude that there are no rich people in this world, the rich people got the f*ck out of detroit, it is only the poor who can not leave.

 

[Gntlmn]

... Essentially, finding life on other worlds will further prove Evolution Theory pushing it closer to a law.

Gotta clear this up for you, MrBluntX (don't worry, I used this type of language before, too, but I learned more along the way):

1. It's the "Scientific Theory of Evolution", not "just a theory" (i.e. hypothesis) of evolution. It will not get pushed "closer to a law" and it doesn't need to. You need to google what makes something a "Scientific Theory" (i.e. evidence that's evidential, so much so that it's a fact; makes predictions that come true, etc.)

2. The scientific theory of gravity is what you're afraid of when you walk to the edge of a cliff. The Law Of Gravity is what's used to determine orbits and artillery success. A Scientific Law has to do with math. The Scientific Theory of Evolution is not math-based so it will never get to a "scientific law". The Scientific Theory of Gravity was evident long before Newton discovered the math to determine what the Law of Gravity is. Both the Theory of Gravity and the Law of Gravity are true, at the same time. So, "get to a law" is incorrect, too. The Scientific Theory of Gravity never graduated to a Scientific Law, they're two different (but obviously related) things.

3. I have a theory that the Toronto Maple Leafs are doomed for the next 5 years. That's "just a theory". But a "scientific theory" is different. The Scientific Theory of Evolution is not "just a theory" (repetitive but it needs to be repeated)

 

[nature1]

I agree.

BTW, isn't there some new thought about NO Big Bang, with this talk about dark energy or dark matter?

I have not heard the correlation about a "No Big Bang" due to dark energy and dark matter. Dark matter represents about 26% of the universe and has been researched and qualified in 2014. Dark energy represents about 69% of the universe (yup "69") and the "theory" at present is that it may be responsible for increasing the speed of the expansion of the universe.

The universe is so large that all atom based entities, planets, suns, galaxies, nebulae, asteroids, meteor's etc. only represent about 5% of occupied space in the universe; sometimes it is hard to wrap your thoughts and understanding around such a massive structure.

And, to answer the question of the original post I think there has already been contact with alien life that go back centuries as well. Hopefully within 10 years it would be nice that contact with aliens and the evidence will finally be released by the world governments, (and the bimbo USA government) instead of continuing on with this smoke and mirrors approach they have historically taken. As the American government would have you believe, any unknown object that you see in the sky regardless of it's shape "is a weather balloon", a balloon that can maneuver and travel in excess of mach 10 (12,000 mph).

Duh really, oh thanks Gov, I thought it might have been something that possessed an enormous propulsion system.

 

[eatthepink]

Some experts could perhaps answer this question of a
novice in telecommunication engineering. How big a satellite
dish is needed to detect and process the signals of an entire
episode of "I love Lucy" received in a planet 100 light years
away from earth? I found those pictures sent from Pluto
quite impressive given the vast distance of 4 light hours.
If known earth-like planets are something like 1000 light years
away the aliens must be a lot smarter than us to be able to
process cosmic background noises into HD TV shows.

Apart from just searching through the vastness of the universe, we also have to be lucky enough that the other intelligent life exists during our lifetime. There may have been many civilizations that have already come and gone and we may or may not find traces of them.

lots of the stars we see in the night sky are long gone. Any signals we do pick up from civilizations are likely to be the same

 

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lots of the stars we see in the night sky are long gone. Any signals we do pick up from civilizations are likely to be the same

That is really amazing that we are actually seeing these galaxies not as they are today, but as they were billions of years ago. If they figured out how to make warp drive work that can theoretically go as fast as 10^39 the speed of light it would be extremely difficult to predict what the stars are actually doing now or if the are still there in existence. It is quite possible that they will make the warp drive a reality, however not very likely in our lifetime, our kids lifetime or their kids. I don't think we will pick up anything because of such great distances and the signals do not have enough time to reach us yet. Also we have nothing special here to offer to intelligent life so why would they want to visit us if they had warp drive already figured out.

 

[GPIDEAL]

I have not heard the correlation about a "No Big Bang" due to dark energy and dark matter. Dark matter represents about 26% of the universe and has been researched and qualified in 2014. Dark energy represents about 69% of the universe (yup "69") and the "theory" at present is that it may be responsible for increasing the speed of the expansion of the universe.

The universe is so large that all atom based entities, planets, suns, galaxies, nebulae, asteroids, meteor's etc. only represent about 5% of occupied space in the universe; sometimes it is hard to wrap your thoughts and understanding around such a massive structure.

And, to answer the question of the original post I think there has already been contact with alien life that go back centuries as well. Hopefully within 10 years it would be nice that contact with aliens and the evidence will finally be released by the world governments, (and the bimbo USA government) instead of continuing on with this smoke and mirrors approach they have historically taken. As the American government would have you believe, any unknown object that you see in the sky regardless of it's shape "is a weather balloon", a balloon that can maneuver and travel in excess of mach 10 (12,000 mph).

Duh really, oh thanks Gov, I thought it might have been something that possessed an enormous propulsion system.

You may be technically correct as I only vaguely recall an article in a Popular Science I bought (will check this weekend now).

You forgot another excuse by the lying US government. Swamp gas.


Here's a neat UFO video:

 

[GPIDEAL]

That is really amazing that we are actually seeing these galaxies not as they are today, but as they were billions of years ago. If they figured out how to make warp drive work that can theoretically go as fast as 10^39 the speed of light it would be extremely difficult to predict what the stars are actually doing now or if the are still there in existence. It is quite possible that they will make the warp drive a reality, however not very likely in our lifetime, our kids lifetime or their kids. I don't think we will pick up anything because of such great distances and the signals do not have enough time to reach us yet. Also we have nothing special here to offer to intelligent life so why would they want to visit us if they had warp drive already figured out.

When we discover or invent warp drive, the Vulcans will make first contact.

Seriously though, extraterrestrials would visit us for the same reason that we study ancient civilizations or other species.

 

[GPIDEAL]

@ Yoga Face,

SETI's main purpose isn't to identify UFOs.

Maybe radio signals or waves are so rare and weak that it's difficult to establish a definite confirmation of ET origin?

UFOs have always been elusive. Maybe they don't want us to know they are watching or visiting.

There's not necessarily any world wide government conspiracy, but keeping alien technology secret is motivated by military secrecy between competing nations.

 

[oil&gas]

Based on some of the posts I am convinced that the U.S.
government is the only earth representative the aliens
would want to talk to. Russians, Europeans and Asians are
too honest to be trustworthy.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Gotta clear this up for you, MrBluntX (don't worry, I used this type of language before, too, but I learned more along the way):

1. It's the "Scientific Theory of Evolution", not "just a theory" (i.e. hypothesis) of evolution. It will not get pushed "closer to a law" and it doesn't need to. You need to google what makes something a "Scientific Theory" (i.e. evidence that's evidential, so much so that it's a fact; makes predictions that come true, etc.)

2. The scientific theory of gravity is what you're afraid of when you walk to the edge of a cliff. The Law Of Gravity is what's used to determine orbits and artillery success. A Scientific Law has to do with math. The Scientific Theory of Evolution is not math-based so it will never get to a "scientific law". The Scientific Theory of Gravity was evident long before Newton discovered the math to determine what the Law of Gravity is. Both the Theory of Gravity and the Law of Gravity are true, at the same time. So, "get to a law" is incorrect, too. The Scientific Theory of Gravity never graduated to a Scientific Law, they're two different (but obviously related) things.

3. I have a theory that the Toronto Maple Leafs are doomed for the next 5 years. That's "just a theory". But a "scientific theory" is different. The Scientific Theory of Evolution is not "just a theory" (repetitive but it needs to be repeated)

Huh?

I thought gravity was no theory but a physical law?

We may theorize what it is or made up of, but it's no theory but a fact. No?

 

[geeky]

Gravity is a law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_law_of_universal_gravitation

Edit:
General Relativity (which is a theory) also explains gravity, but is really only needed for massive objects. Quantum physics also explains gravity with subatomic particles called gravitons. Both of these should be considered attempts at a more detailed understanding of the already established Newtonian laws.

 

[Gntlmn]

Like I said, there's the Scientific Theory of Gravity (things fall towards more massive things, and that's as real as the boulder above the coyote's head) AND ALSO The Law of Gravity ( Fg = G*m1*m2/R^2). They are both true at the same time. The "Law of Gravity" involves the math and the analysis and the physics.

"Gravity", itself, needs "Theory" or "Law" tacked on to REALLY talk about one of the two correctly.

If you're still having trouble google "Scientific Theory". GPIDEAL, read my original post again. Gravity didn't graduate from theory to law. The Scientific Theory of Gravity is fact and the Law of Gravity is fact. The Scientific Theory of Evolution is just as much a fact as raindrops keep falling on my head Scientific Theory of Gravity.

SCIENTIFIC THEORY is not "just a theory/hypothesis". Google is your friend.

http://thehappyscientist.com/science-experiment/gravity-theory-or-law

(sure, quantum mechanics takes hold at the subatomic level, but that's not really what I'm talking about here, in explaining how Gravity has both a Theory and a Law to it)

 

[Yoga Face]

@ Yoga Face,

SETI's main purpose isn't to identify UFOs.

Maybe radio signals or waves are so rare and weak that it's difficult to establish a definite confirmation of ET origin?

UFOs have always been elusive. Maybe they don't want us to know they are watching or visiting.

There's not necessarily any world wide government conspiracy, but keeping alien technology secret is motivated by military secrecy between competing nations.

I understand SETI

My point is if the government is trying to cover up UFOs then they would also want to cover up alien signals

and

if UFOs are real then it would follow that the likely hood of alien signals should exponentially increase

and

if one government is aware of real UFOs then other governments are as well and this would mean a conspiracy of enemy nations agreeing to one thing and one thing only - an alien cover up- which would never happen therefore UFOs are not caused by aliens

while some UFOs are very difficult to explain, extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence and the lack of explanation other than alien UFOS is not extraordinary evidence

 

[basketcase]

OK ...

Sure seems like whole shitload of different alien species must have visited us. Funny that none of them have bothered actually saying hello.

Either that or the 'sightings' aren't actually aliens.

 

[basketcase]

the question is will we make contact IE find their signals ...

With the size of the universe and the dissipation of signal strength as it travels, unlikely that we ever will. Even the possibility of aliens having faster than light technology is irrelevant because we wouldn't have the ability to detect them.