Will you be attempting to loose weight

[a 1 player]

I hope you're kidding. People as fat as the ones in the original post can help it, they might have been genetically disposed to be larger than normal but not that fat. They achieved that by overeating big time. For that I have no sympathy...sorry.

Who gives a rats ass if they can help it or not. That is not the point.

 

[elmo]

Who gives a rats ass if they can help it or not. That is not the point.

That's exactly the point. Is there no responsibility for anything in your world?

 

[a 1 player]

Very few people realize that Legally there is nothing stopping you from doing what these people have done to the obese. In legal terms ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation and even medical issues are covered and protected. Weight (over or under) and size (height or lack of) are not things that are legally backed. The charter of human rights is supposed to protect everyone from being singled out but does not mention anything as it pertains to physical size or weight. It is assumed that they are covered but they aren't. The amount of people that make fun of or single out big people I have either been their direct punchline (in my younger years I was too insecure to do anything about it but later on ended up putting a few people in their place in many different ways) or seen them picking on others and had to step in and tell them off for it. I just wonder how many of these people who poke fun at bigger/smaller people would do that if someone in their family was this way? A sister/brother? A child or parent? Remember these people have parents, some have children and some are brothers or sisters to people. How would you feel if someone said those things about your family members?
Just food for thought.

I know what you are saying.

I am just speaking my mind, nothing more. If I think that something is wrong, legal or not, I speak up about it. I have never been known to bite my tongue when I find something offensive.

People might disagree with me, and that is ok too. All I am saying is just MY opinion.

 

[a 1 player]

That's exactly the point. Is there no responsibility for anything in your world?

I take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for everything in my world. It's just that in my world, class and tact count for a lot.

 

[Davy.Biggie]

Who gives a rats ass if they can help it or not. That is not the point.

His point isn't whether the people are fat by choice. It's why the hell do you pick on them for being fat?
I myself am overweight but I carry it well and in reality part of the blame is mine for being this size but I am genetically programmed to be big.
The YO-YO affects of diets over the years. The personal trainers trying to make me bigger because I have the frame for it. The emotional eating. The addictive personality. The extremely slow metabolism. SOme I could control some I couldn't and some I wasn't even aware of until recently.
There is blame to be had and there is responsibility but you don't know if these people were abused as children and did it to themselves as a defense mechanism. You don't know if they were force fed and forced to be inactive as children? You don't know if both parents worked and the person the child was left with would not let the child out of the home. You have no idea what thee people do or are yet you poke fun. People that do this are the people responsible for the amount of anorexic women. the women killing themselves to be size 2's and 3's. The same idiots who cause women to also say "I can never be a size 2 or 3 so fuck it" and become emotional eaters and then turn into women like the ones in the pictures. YOU ARE PART TO BLAME FOR IT.

 

[Prim0]

Am I right in understanding that we should be making fun of absolutly no one out there for any reason whatsoever?! Is this what some of you are saying?

 

[elmo]

I take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for everything in my world. It's just that in my world, class and tact count for a lot.

I can understand your world. Here in the real world, people make bad decisions every day, decisions that the rest of us have to pay for. Can you imagine the cost impact of someone that large to the healthcare system? Do you know that immigration costs Canadians more than it contributes in terms of taxes? Do you know that taxpayers pay for several sex change operations a year?

What I'm saying is that people who chose to make decisions should be responsible for the consequences be they positive or negative.. Special Interest groups have been raping our country for years...something that many overly tolerant liberal thinkers don't seem to grasp.

Was that classy and tactful enough for you?

 

[elmo]

Am I right in understanding that we should be making fun of absolutly no one out there for any reason whatsoever?! Is this what some of you are saying?

Yes, and while doing so please exercise the utmost in class and tact so as not to upset the liberals.

 

[Davy.Biggie]

I can understand your world. Here in the real world, people make bad decisions every day, decisions that the rest of us have to pay for. Can you imagine the cost impact of someone that large to the healthcare system? Do you know that immigration costs Canadians more than it contributes in terms of taxes? Do you know that taxpayers pay for several sex change operations a year?

What I'm saying is that people who chose to make decisions should be responsible for the consequences be they positive or negative.. Special Interest groups have been raping our country for years...something that many overly tolerant liberal thinkers don't seem to grasp.

Was that classy and tactful enough for you?

Did you know that in Quebec the cost of a Gastric Bypass or a Laproscopic band is subsidized and or fully covered by their healthcare system? They realized early that obesity costs more money to maintain and ignore than it does to be proactive against it.
In Europe it is also covered by their governments. SO are Breast reductions due to breasts tooo large for your frame causing back problems in old age. In Europe even the size of a breast augmentation is controlled by the government to reduce back problems in later years.
There's a difference between being part of the problem and being part of the solution. Poking fun at people for being overweight adds to the problem. being proactive about it aids in a solution.

And A 1 Player I wasn't going against you man, I was actually just informing people that even though it isn't protected directly by law doesn't mean we should go out & find an obese person to pick on. I'll tell you this much, I've had to stop many friends from knocking people the fuck out in clubs because they overhear a comment like "Holy fuck did you see the size of that guy". But then again there is something to be said that when the bouncer decides to want to get me & my friends out of the club he politely comes to us and says "could you guys please leave the club" and knows better than to try and fight with us. we usually have 3 people bigger than the biggest bouncer and we can move and handle ourselves.

 

[Prim0]

'nough said.

 

[Cycleguy007]

'nough said.

I'd rather imagine her WITHOUT The t-shirt! HAHA

But to answer the question... who would we bug then?

 

[elmo]

Poking fun at people for being overweight adds to the problem. being proactive about it aids in a solution.

I actually agree with you...sort of. Let's be clear, not having sympathy for someone is very different that poking fun at them. Asking someone to take responsibility for their decisions and actions is a reasonable request. When someone gets as fat as the girls in the original post and wants me to pay for their poor decisions, the time for being proactive has passed...

 

[a 1 player]

Am I right in understanding that we should be making fun of absolutly no one out there for any reason whatsoever?! Is this what some of you are saying?

My god, I'm not saying that at all. If we could just direct all jokes towards rayfinkel and Esco.

I understand very well that I am not going to change the world, and that there will always be jokes against people who are different than us. I am also not saying that we should not poke fun at anyone either, that would just be silly.

There is a difference between good natured humor and posting pictures of someone with the hopes of a gang mentality joining in to taunt and tease someone like a circus freak. I'm really surprised that some can't see the difference between the two.

BTW, I agree with the burden on the health system, but that is a different topic altogether and does not have any bearing on my original point.

I think I have expressed my point of view clearly, and I see no more need for me to further debate what MY opinion is on the subject.

 

[Hangman]

I'm short and wear glasses. I can't help these attributes (leg-lengthening surgery notwithstanding). But I'm also a fat tub of goo. When people make fun of me for being short I laugh because what the hell can I do about it? But when people make fun of me fir being fat, I feel bad, because I know I can do something about it (eat right and exercise) but I'm just a lazyass about it.

Something you can't control is not fair game for mockery, but something you can control is. Ots like gay people: I wouldn't mock a guy for being gay, but I'll make savage fun of effeminate, over the top, faggery because I think its dumb that he chooses to act that way.

 

[Davy.Biggie]

Liberal thinking allows for our hobby.
as for the laziness or lack of self-control 90% it is a mask to hide other issues of self-confidence or self-worth.
It's funny because I have worked with children for years. Until one child makes fun of a fat kid no one does, they all accept that the kid is bigger than they are. when you meet the parents of the instigating children you find them to be publicly and openly poking fun at the fat & the short & the people of different ethnicities.
Our pastimes of non acceptance and choices of who to riddicule rub off on the children and continue to poison generation after generation.
Children LEARN to make fun of others they are not born with it and neither are we. We learned this behavior from exposure to it.

 

[Alexis_2]

I agree totally with what you are saying Davy. There will always be those who want to pick on someone no matter what. You have to wonder if they do this to make themselves feel better.

I'm pretty slim, not rail-thin but I'm 5' 10" and 135 lbs - still within limits on the BMI. Guess who picks on me?? Other SPs ... but only those who are "chubbier."

 

[great bear]

Be politically correct: Its Fhat not Fat.

 

[Cycleguy007]

Be politically correct: Its Fhat not Fat.

Actually if I'm not mistaken... "P H A T"

 

[Davy.Biggie]

Alexis,
I know it happens both ways.

Cycle guy,
Hence one of my many other nicknames. Phat Dave.