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Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

  • Yes, as soon as possible

    Votes: 220 57.7%
  • Yes, but I do not want to be among the first to take it.

    Votes: 68 17.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 17 4.5%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 21 5.5%
  • Absolutely not

    Votes: 50 13.1%
  • I do not care if I do or don't

    Votes: 5 1.3%

  • Total voters
    381
  • Poll closed .
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northofsixty

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Full points again to Canada-Man for the credibility of his sources. LifesiteNews is apparently one of QAnon's quoted news sources as well so Canada-Man is keeping good company.

Some of LifeSitesNews's President Steve Jalsevac's beliefs

Steve Jalsevac, the president of LifeSiteNews rejected: the characterization of the site as anti-LGBT, saying that their issue is not with LGBT people but rather with “living an active homosexual, transgender, or otherwise sexually confused life”; the idea that his site promotes far-right conspiracies, since reference to “pedosatanism” is merely “Recognizing that there is a growing Satanism movement (and there definitely is) and that sexual abuse of children is and always has been a part of some who are involved in such a movement because that is the nature of true Satanism”; and that the site disseminates Covid misinformation, because “If you do not know that the Covid-19 virus was created in a Chinese lab, then you are simply uninformed.”
 

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shack

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Full points again to Canada-Man for the credibility of his sources. LifesiteNews is apparently one of QAnon's quoted news sources as well so Canada-Man is keeping good company.

Some of LifeSitesNews's President Steve Jalsevac's beliefs

Steve Jalsevac, the president of LifeSiteNews rejected: the characterization of the site as anti-LGBT, saying that their issue is not with LGBT people but rather with “living an active homosexual, transgender, or otherwise sexually confused life”; the idea that his site promotes far-right conspiracies, since reference to “pedosatanism” is merely “Recognizing that there is a growing Satanism movement (and there definitely is) and that sexual abuse of children is and always has been a part of some who are involved in such a movement because that is the nature of true Satanism”; and that the site disseminates Covid misinformation, because “If you do not know that the Covid-19 virus was created in a Chinese lab, then you are simply uninformed.”
Even though c-m is a total whack job, he is still dangerous. I wish that they'd ban or even limit his stupid anti-vaxx posts. Some other social media have instituted policies regarding these kinds of postings.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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And rightfully so if they've had or will have the chance to receive it and decline to do so
I was listening to AM radio a while back and they mentioned a survey that said 70% of Canadians will get vaccinated right away.
Another 20% surveyed would rather wait a year or so (thats including me).
You then add 5% to 10% of people who have natural antibodies from being infected, and you're close to 95-100%.
Thats more than enough to reach herd immunity.

So the few people who rather not get vaccinated will have almost no impact on life going back to normal.
So why you do you let guys like canada-man bother you so much??
He's allowed to have his opinion, isnt he?? (no matter how warped and crazy it is)
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Even though c-m is a total whack job, he is still dangerous. I wish that they'd ban or even limit his stupid anti-vaxx posts. Some other social media have instituted policies regarding these kinds of postings
That doesnt matter. In a true free-speech society even nutjobs like c-m get to voice their opinion
 

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Two-Year-Old Baby Died Within Six Days Of Taking Second Shot Of Pfizer Vaccine In Clinical Trials On Children


Nope, there are no vaccine trials for children under 5, everything in this story is false.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/two-year-old-virginia-die-vaccine/
https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pa...idence-2-year-old-died-after-getting-covid-19
Here is a copy of the referenced VAERS report, it is filled out improperly with fields missing , even the lot number of the vaccine is missing.
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1074247
If you want to see accurate VAERS reports go here.
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?EVENTS=on&PAGENO=880&PERPAGE=1000&ESORT=&REVERSESORT=&
 
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shack

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That doesnt matter. In a true free-speech society even nutjobs like c-m get to voice their opinion
Our society agrees that there are limits.

Canada has laws against hate speech. You can't yell fire in a theater. Do you disagree with those examples of free speech being restricted?
 

shack

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I was listening to AM radio a while back and they mentioned a survey that said 70% of Canadians will get vaccinated right away.
Another 20% surveyed would rather wait a year or so (thats including me).
You then add 5% to 10% of people who have natural antibodies from being infected, and you're close to 95-100%.
Thats more than enough to reach herd immunity.

So the few people who rather not get vaccinated will have almost no impact on life going back to normal.
So why you do you let guys like canada-man bother you so much??
He's allowed to have his opinion, isnt he?? (no matter how warped and crazy it is)
You present a reasonable argument. I am aware of what group you are in and phrased my comment in such a way that you would not feel that I was including you.

Having said that, the more people that get vaccinated the better. Herd immunity is fine. Eradication is better. Because of anti-vaxxers, measles (as one example) is making a comeback and I suspect that they comprise less than 10%.

More is better.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Our society agrees that there are limits.

Canada has laws against hate speech. You can't yell fire in a theater. Do you disagree with those examples of free speech being restricted?
Except this is not hate speech, and he's not yelling fire in a theatre. So thats false equivalence.
He's allowed to have his personal opinions, and he's allowed to express them
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Herd immunity is fine. Eradication is better
From what I've read Covid will most likely never be completely eradicated. Just like the flu never will be.
We will always have to take booster vaccines, and we will always have new Covid infections regardless.

But yes, more vaccinated people is always better
 
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shack

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Except this is not hate speech, and he's not yelling fire in a theatre. So thats false equivalence.
He's allowed to have his personal opinions, and he's allowed to express them
The problem with hate speech and "fire" is that they are dangerous, they put other people at risk. c-m's idiocy also endangers other people if it is taken seriously.

BTW, people who spew hate speech are also expressing their personal opinion. So that argument doesn't work.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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The problem with hate speech and "fire" is that they are dangerous, they put other people at risk. c-m's idiocy also endangers other people if it is taken seriously
How many people do you think take c-m seriously in Canada?? I'll bet very few.
And if/when they do take his posts seriously then its their own choice, and they will have to face their own consequences if they get Covid and get sick.

Censorship like you're proposing is a slippery slope to go down on.
Whats next, do you think we should ban alternative medicine too because that might also be "dangerous"?? No thanks!!
I was cured of IBS by my naturopath with natural medicine.
This was after my regular doctor and gastroenterologist said there was nothing they could do for me.

Censorship can fuck off, and free speech should rule
 
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