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Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

  • Yes, as soon as possible

    Votes: 220 57.7%
  • Yes, but I do not want to be among the first to take it.

    Votes: 68 17.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 17 4.5%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 21 5.5%
  • Absolutely not

    Votes: 50 13.1%
  • I do not care if I do or don't

    Votes: 5 1.3%

  • Total voters
    381
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canada-man

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The Spanish medicines agency is looking into the death of a woman who suffered a brain bleed caused by a blood clot days after getting an AstraZeneca shot, the Health Ministry said Wednesday.

"AEMPS, other regulators and the European medicines agency EMA are gathering data and conducting a thorough investigation to determine whether, in addition to a temporal connection to the administration of the vaccine, there was a possible causative relationship", a statement read.

The 43-year-old received the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine on 3 March and reported a headache within hours, which was dismissed as a common side effect. She sought medical help 10 days later after her symptoms worsened. The surgery revealed a brain bleed and swelling. She died on Monday.



The Health Ministry said she had suffered an ischemic stroke that transformed into a brain haemorrhage.

The woman was among three people reported to have developed a combination of unusual symptoms — blood clots and a low count of platelets — which may point to an "abnormal activation of the coagulation system, associated with the formation of blood clots in unusual places".

Spanish Drug Regulator Probes Death of Woman Vaccinated With AstraZeneca - Sputnik International (sputniknews.com)
 

canada-man

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‘Nothing else explains it’: Norwegian scientists say AstraZeneca DID cause blood clots, as British & Dutch experts dismiss theory



Norwegian scientists have linked the AstraZeneca vaccine and blood clots – a condition seen in some people that led countries around the world to halt its use. But British and Dutch medics say there’s no evidence for such a link.
“The cause of our patients' condition has now been found,” Pal Andre Holme, the head of a research group at the Oslo University Hospital, told Norway’s VG media outlet. He was referring to the cases of three health workers under the age of 50 who suffered from severe blood clotting after receiving the AstraZeneca jab. One of the medics then died on Monday.


The clotting in those patients was triggered by a very specific “strong immune response” likely caused as a result of the AstraZeneca jab, Holme explained. In collaboration with the University Hospital of North Norway, Holme’s team detected specific antibodies that “activate” platelets and in some cases can lead to blood clots.

Asked by VG if the vaccine was the “most likely” cause of this specific immune response, Holme said he believes “there is no other thing” in the history of the three individual patients which would generate such a response. None of the three patients had a history of similar health issues before, he said.

I am pretty sure it is these antibodies that are the cause and I see no other reason than that it is the vaccine that triggers them.
‘Nothing else explains it’: Norwegian scientists say AstraZeneca DID cause blood clots, as British & Dutch experts dismiss theory — RT World News
 

Chunky Protoss

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By the time the vast majority of people get a chance to get a C-19 vaccine millions at highest risk will have already been vaccinated. Which will tell us, with yet more testing on human subjects, how effective the various vaccines are.

"I understand why people might think that this process has been rushed, because in the past vaccines have taken years to develop, but it actually has not been rushed, at all, with the design of the vaccine or with respect to the safety and efficacy trials (all these phase 1-3 trials). "

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2020/11/20/allison-weis-covid/
They data says they started 6 months ago. Too bad there's no vaccine for the common cold, HIV or cancer. Seems this new virus is the easiest thing they could try to cure. Then again, that makes you wonder if its weaker than the common cold XD
 

squeezer

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They data says they started 6 months ago. Too bad there's no vaccine for the common cold, HIV or cancer. Seems this new virus is the easiest thing they could try to cure. Then again, that makes you wonder if its weaker than the common cold XD
Hmmm, you and a few other loons are the only ones thinking it is weaker than the common cold.
 

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I am in no hurry to be vaccinated. For the first six months or so masks were not universally used and I survived. Deaths have been restricted largely to the elderly, I know there are exceptions but in numbers that in a different context would be considered irrelevant. If I were in my 80's I would be in line tomorrow, I am in my 50's so will gladly cede my spot in line to the more vulnerable.
 
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lenny2

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They data says they started 6 months ago. Too bad there's no vaccine for the common cold, HIV or cancer. Seems this new virus is the easiest thing they could try to cure.
When the entire world is focused on solving a problem, rather than a drop in the bucket, it does tend to make solutions way easier.

"two heads are better than one"
 

Anbarandy

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Cancelled AstraZeneca vaccine booking for today for various reasons, none of which were related to alleged "vaccine causing blood clotteing issues".

Reasons:

1) Phifzer and Moderna use the mRNA vaccination method whereas Astra/Zeneca use the vector method.

2) mRNA method bypasses the cellular response that produces the mRNA in cells

3) I am over 60 and have immune and health issues. Logic and reason would seem to indicate that age and health would a compromise an individual's cellular and immune response compared to a younger and healthier individual. Thus I believe that bypassing my own cellular ability to produce mRNA in significant strength and quantity is a logical and much more beneficial outcome.

4) Will wait for Phizer or Moderna mRNA vaccine when it's my turn
 
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basketcase

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They data says they started 6 months ago. Too bad there's no vaccine for the common cold, HIV or cancer. Seems this new virus is the easiest thing they could try to cure. Then again, that makes you wonder if its weaker than the common cold XD
Is this a real statement or are you trolling?

The cold and HIV mutate to fast for a vaccine to be effective. Cancer is not caused by a virus (and is a wide variety of problems, not just one) but there is some hope that using mRNA technology as a way of delivering new instructions to cancerous cells can be a cure.
 

basketcase

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Then why this info
What info are you talking about? Are you wondering why the medical community tracks the safety of things or are you asking why people believe and spread obviously untrue conspiracy crap?
 

canada-man

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The medical establishment, at least in Norway, is finally admitting that Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccines are killing people. Along with this admission comes a major shift in the narrative, though.

Now, we are being told that it is a virtue for someone to risk death from getting jabbed for the Chinese virus because the injections are a representation of sacrifice on behalf of humanity.

“I would love to die from the AstraZeneca vaccine,” reads an English translation of an article in the Norwegian media written by someone named Linn Wiik.

“It probably sounds very brutal. But some must be sacrificed in the war against the corona. That’s the way it is in all wars. This time it may well be me.”

Moving the goal posts once again, the media is suddenly shifting from a narrative that says all Wuhan flu vaccines are “safe and effective” to one that admits vaccines are deadly – but if you are a good person who cares about others, then you will get one anyway to help the herd.

Wiik explains that at least one health worker died of a cerebral hemorrhage after getting jabbed while several others were admitted with serious blood clots after getting injected. Still, she says everyone should get needled.

“Let me say the obvious first. It is terribly sad that health workers have become seriously ill,” Wiik writes.

“Although we have stopped clapping for them on our balconies, I think we all have deep respect for this group of people, who are some of the front fighters in the war against the corona. That’s exactly why they got the vaccine so early.”

The latest news about injuries and deaths caused by COVID-19 vaccination can be found at VaccineDamage.news.

What is possessing people to clamor for a vaccine that they know might kill them?
Wiik says “of course” the government will “do everything we can” to determine whether “there is a connection between the cases and the vaccine.” This hedging still leaves room for the medical establishment to declare “no evidence” of a connection later on down the road.

At the same time, Wiik appears to be testing the waters to see whether or not full admission of the fact that Chinese virus vaccines are deadly will be tolerated by the masses. Since forced distancing, masks, and lockdowns were accepted with minimal resistance, chances are that Wiik’s new narrative will be, too.

“Perhaps these are ‘unfortunate individuals,'” Wiik further mulls in her story, attempting every possible way she knows how to justify the continued administration of Wuhan flu vaccines.

“People get blood clots and die of cerebral hemorrhage every year. In Norway, there are between 7,000 and 10,000 cases of blood clots every year … We will get the answer soon. Then the health authorities will also decide whether we should continue the vaccination.”

At this point in the article, Wiik shifted gears again by claiming that even if it turns out that the AstraZeneca vaccine is responsible for these injuries and deaths, “I have no doubt: If I get the offer, I will take it anyway.”

This sounds a lot like what Simona Riussi, the wife of now-deceased Sandro Tognatti, told the media after her husband died from his jab. Despite the loss of her significant other, Riussi says she would still get the vaccine and encourage others to do the same.

“Because, sorry to say it so bluntly: Someone has to sacrifice in order for the rest to be safe,” is how Wiik put it. “That’s the way it is in all wars.”

 

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Latest UPDATE From CDC: 1,637 Deaths Following COVID-19 Vaccinations


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) told The Epoch Times in an email that as of March 8, over 92 million doses of mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 have been injected, with 1,637 deaths occurring following the injections.

The CDC claims the vaccines are safe, but a comparison between the rates of deaths following the vaccines for COVID and those for influenza raises questions.


The Epoch Times hasn’t been able independently to confirm the CDC’s numbers. The publicly available Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) website shows 1136 deaths through Feb. 26.

Details of these deaths are in a spreadsheet linked at the bottom of this article: symptoms before death, age, gender, time between injection and death, and so forth.


Between Dec. 14 and Feb. 26, 25,072 reports were made to the VAERS system of immunizations with either the Moderna or Pfizer BioNTech mRNA vaccines (the only two vaccines given during the time period assessed).

The 1136 deaths represent 4.5 percent of the total number of adverse events reports. Of those who died, 94, or 8.3 percent, died on the same day they got the shot. An additional 150 (13.2 percent) died the day after. Another 105 died two days after, and 68 died three days after.

A total of 587 (51.7 percent) died within a week, 215 died within 7 to 13 days, and 124 within 14 to 20 days.

85.8 percent of deaths occurred in people over 60. There were five deaths among those aged 20–29; 10 in those aged 30–39; 23 in those aged 40–49; and 69 aged 50–59.

Latest UPDATE from CDC: 1,637 Deaths Following COVID-19 Vaccinations (humansarefree.com)
 
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