Never, assuming you you live in the GTA and have good all season tires
I'll second that AJstar. I drives me fucking crazy! Each time we get a bit of snow, people with all season tires get stuck and create huge traffic jams. If there were no hills in the GTA then it wouldn't be so bad but that's not the case. The people with AWD SUV's on all season tires are the worst. Sure, you may be able to get up to speed on snow but you sure as hell can't steer or stop any better. That's why they're the ones you see in the ditch most often.I wish I had a bazooka to blast away aholes like you who get stuck sideways or can't stop until they hit something , blocking streets becuz they didn't need snow tires.
Forget about the emerg. vehicles that can't get by you, since you never need them either. Yeah, yeah, we all know 'you' could never get stuck or have an accident that was your fault.
That and stupidity!if you have an accident in the winter and don't have winter tires on your car - you should be charged with careless driving
That's the best idea!As a side note, if you are using winter tires consider using summer tires also, not "all season". This way you have the proper tire in the summer, and the proper tire in the winter, rather than a compromise all year round.
Logic is not your strong suit!That is one funny misleading statement"O R LY" lol
unless you lease an AWD for 3 years, which should go through it just fine on its original all-seasonsBy buying snows, you prolong the life of your regular tires, so really, in the end, you don't spend any more money.
I think there has been no steelies for BMW/Merc for yearsEvery year this comes up on forums, it always breaks down into 2 groups.
1. Car guys, who run dedicated summers on alloys and winters on steelies.
2. Non-car guys, who run all seasons year round.
.....and never the t'wain shall meet.
Thanks for explaining that, however, I can see by his subsequent posts that he still doesn't get it.Logic is not your strong suit!
Unless you have 8 tires on at the same time, you are not putting on mileage on the tires that are in storage while the others are in use.
If you switch from winter to summer tires according to the season, in the long run the cost is the same because they each last longer in terms of time. It depends on total mileage!
BTW, WTF does "O R LY" mean?
Perry
I really searched this year because I was buying winter tires and steelies for 2 cars... National Tire on Caledonia was the best deal in town, by far!What's a good place to buy winter tires at (price wise) ? Canadian Tire or Goodyear or Firestone or?
You are not worth the time or trouble.Never fails, how a simple question is asked but "ignorance" is all that is returned because that simple question can't be answer and usualy because the crap that was put forward as an explanantion couldn't be answered so crap is all you get when there is no answer....LOL @ perry's worthless crap at trying to avoid answering a simple question with sensibility.
You try and push your "shit" on us with a "shitty" explanantion yet the only answer you can give is just plain "shit"...how do you expect anyone to believe the "shit" you spew when all they see is a "shitty" post?
Those Nokia Tire are great, but check out the snow tires from Toyo, a better price point and more selection. My snows are actually more quiet than my all seasons.I drive fast and corner fast and I like my women loose and easy but not my tires.
I've been very impressed with the Goodyear Assurance Triple Treads. I live out in the country and they eat through unplowed snow and those slush lines that form between lanes on the highway are no problem for them. They are an all season tire and are also great in the rain and handle pretty damn well in corners.
I'm putting a set of Nokian WrG2's on my parents SUV as the GY Triple Treads don't have that particular size. Go with the best tire you can afford, ending up in a ditch or someone else's bumper will cost you more in the long-run.
Well put! It scares me that people like afterhours think that because they have AWD they can effectively stop on ice and snow with all seasons. I don't care if you end up in the ditch, just don't take me out on the way.Two wheels or four driving, once the tire loses traction with the road it is irrelevant.
This attitude of AWD with all season tires shows that most drivers think all that matters is getting moving, when in fact the most important safety aspect is steering and STOPPING.
Winter tires have a big advantage because the rubber used is softer so when it gets cold, the tires have more friction available. They still stay soft at -40C
"All Season" tires are made of harder rubber because they need to tolerate the hottest temps of sun soaked black asphalt on the hottest days of summer. These tires can run on the highway at 180 km/h at 200F. Winter compounds would wear out or delaminate .
Nor is it the big knobs of the tread pattern you see these Hummer doofus' using either. They are for mud and dirt offroad. they are shit in snow and even worse in ice.
And the only incremental cost in having a set of winter tires if you keep a car for more than 60k is the cost to change over. Steel wheels don't save any money over the life of the tires either.
Pretty well sums it up. I can't count the times I've seen 4WD vehicles zip by me on the highways in bad conditions and later be spotted on the shoulder, in the ditch, or kissing the median. $WD vehicle can actually take more room to stop in a panic situation.Well put! It scares me that people like afterhours think that because they have AWD they can effectively stop on ice and snow with all seasons. I don't care if you end up in the ditch, just don't take me out on the way.





