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Rono

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Any ideas why my wireless connection keeps cutting out at home. It worked fine for a couple of years but has become increasingly less reliable. It will be connected for about 5 minutes then I lose it. It is not a problem when I use other wireless connections outside of the home.
 

papasmerf

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Please read first post in this thread and you will know what the problem is just from reading it.

You might want to ask how come that light bulb does not work. It worked fine when I put it in 4 years ago
 

Rono

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papasmerf said:
Please read first post in this thread and you will know what the problem is just from reading it.

You might want to ask how come that light bulb does not work. It worked fine when I put it in 4 years ago
Are you saying the router needs to be replaced? Do they degrade over time??
 

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Rono said:
Are you saying the router needs to be replaced? Do they degrade over time??
Any piece of electronics will degrade over time.

Unless something has changed and is intermittently blocking your signal I would start by replacing the router. A quick test for that is have a friend with a laptop come over and see if the same problent exists for them
 

papasmerf

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Cycleguy007 said:
Run a wire! :D

Yes, sure wireless is convenient, but not nearly as reliable as a wire. Not as fast either. You can't beat a wire.

Um

you need 8 of them for 10/100/1000
 

Radio_Shack

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I think you should replace the house and all the buildings around the router, then work backwards until you can pin point it. :D

Seriously now, can you look at your Event Viewer in Windows and see if there are any errors associated at same time of outage. Also look at the router log if you have one.
 

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Cycleguy007 said:
Run a wire! :D

Yes, sure wireless is convenient, but not nearly as reliable as a wire. Not as fast either. You can't beat a wire.

Wire is faster. However the speed of the service coming in from your ISP usually negates that effect if you're only talking about surfing the web.
 
papasmerf said:
No

8 conductors, 4 pair
Yes... 4 sets twisted pair. I completely wired my house throughout with Cat 5 when it was built.

My parents just recently upgraded to DSL and BELL supplied one of those "wireless" routers... They were having all sorts of connection problems. I spent a couple hours on afternoon running some Cat 5 cabling... end of problem.
 

papasmerf

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Cycleguy007 said:
Yes... 4 sets twisted pair. I completely wired my house throughout with Cat 5 when it was built.

I install a lot of computer cables on my job

Needless to say I use wireless at home
 

Anynym

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Rono said:
Any ideas why my wireless connection keeps cutting out at home. It worked fine for a couple of years but has become increasingly less reliable. It will be connected for about 5 minutes then I lose it. It is not a problem when I use other wireless connections outside of the home.
Can you check the "signal strength", either at the router, or at your computer? (Different OSs perform this in different ways.) Are you using 802.11b, g, or n? How many other networks are visible to your computer? (It shouldn't make a difference, at least not directly, but if another network is showing a very strong signal it could interfere with your own network.)

Wireless connections use multiple "carriers", and if one of the carriers drops out then only the stronger remaining carriers can be used, reducing the connection bandwidth. Think of it this way: with only one carrier, you get one bit at a time. With two carriers, you get two bits simultaneously. With three carriers, you get three bits, and so on. Then, with the way they interact the don't add up to one, two, and three times the data rate (times n), but one, two, and four times the data rate (power of n). There's more to it, obviously, but that's the model to think about.

Carriers can drop out due to interference, or to weak signal strength. And if a carrier were to drop out after the connection has been established, the connection is likely to drop. Also, despite what some have suggested, growing steadily weaker over several years is not a common failure mode for wireless electronics.

And, as an aside, a wired Ethernet connection uses two pair of wires (four wires altogether), regardless of whether it's running at 10Mbps, 100, or 1000. A typical Ethernet cable carries four pair of wires, but two of those pair are not connected to the electronics.
 

LKD

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is your wireless password protected? maybe someone is stealing your line. It becomes a back-and-forth game of kicking the other user out
 

Rockslinger

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Cycleguy007 said:
My parents just recently upgraded to DSL and BELL supplied one of those "wireless" routers...
Is it true that your neighbours can easily 'tap" into your wireless? Apparently, this will give them access to your computer. Or, is this an urban myth? Am I even making sense?
 

El_Cid

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Do the password change as suggested above, if it's still the blank admin password for device management some 12 year old near you is having a good ol' time messing around with your access point.

If the device is 4 years old it's likely a "B" type router. If your laptop supports "G" or "N" connectivity it might be type of upgrade. nothing lasts forever.

If you have some kind of fanatical attachment to your router, then I'd re-configure it to use a different channel as someone near you with a better/stronger access point might be causing some signal overlapping.

check out this link

The other question is.. have you recently installed any new wireless equipment? a new cordless phone? even a new microwave? those types of devices can work on the same GHz frequency as your ol' router.

that's just my $0.02 CND.
 

Rockslinger

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El_Cid said:
if it's still the blank admin password for device management some 12 year old near you is having a good ol' time messing around with your access point.
Are you saying that your neighbours can "tap" into your computer see what you are doing on TERB?:eek:
 

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destillat said:
There are 8 conductors in CAT5/CAT6 cabling, but only 4 are actually used.

When you wire map a connected switch you will see connectivity on all 4 pairs. When you connect at 10 you will uses pins 1, 2,3 and 6.
 

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papasmerf said:
When you wire map a connected switch you will see connectivity on all 4 pairs. When you connect at 10 you will uses pins 1, 2,3 and 6.
I've gotten 1000mbps connectivity with a 4 conductor patch cable.
 
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