would u go to a school like trios, medixschool, CDI, etc....
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Trios is a good place. All those types of school are very specific to individual jobs, so it is easy enough to find out if that training is real entry to that job. If you want to be a dental assistant (for example), talk to some people who hire dental assistants (dentists, I assume), and see what they think of a graduate from one of those programs, versus other options, whatever they might be. Then you know if the program might be worthwhile.
First of all, I'd find out if any degree or certificate you obtain from one of these schools is actually recognized or accredited. You'd be surprised at how many aren't. The diploma you receive is worth the paper it is written on, about 5 cents.
A good way to tell is if any credits you earn are acceptable at other universities or colleges. For eg: if you have a dental assistant diploma and want to get into Ryerson's Dental program, will they give you credit for the courses you took at Bob's College? (most likely they won't).
As funny as this sounds DeVry used to be like this. Eventually they were accepted as an accredited school but not for a long long time. Same as (believe it or not) Ryerson. They were listed as a Polytechnical Institute and didn't get their University status until, what, 10 yrs ago? (something like that).
Before you sign anything make sure the diploma you earn will be worth something.
60 minutes did a study of all these places in the US and of the 1000's they canvassed, not a one was worth a pinch of raccoon shit.
A good way to tell is if any credits you earn are acceptable at other universities or colleges. For eg: if you have a dental assistant diploma and want to get into Ryerson's Dental program, will they give you credit for the courses you took at Bob's College? (most likely they won't).
As funny as this sounds DeVry used to be like this. Eventually they were accepted as an accredited school but not for a long long time. Same as (believe it or not) Ryerson. They were listed as a Polytechnical Institute and didn't get their University status until, what, 10 yrs ago? (something like that).
Before you sign anything make sure the diploma you earn will be worth something.
60 minutes did a study of all these places in the US and of the 1000's they canvassed, not a one was worth a pinch of raccoon shit.
I don't think that just because an institution does not offer a recognized credential, it is neccessarily a waste of time. In many fields, a credential is obviously critical, but in some fields it is really just what you know. So if you learn what you wanted to learn, you do not need a diploma.
Well, that may be true but consider this: if you're going for a position and someone with a degree from U of T is going for the same position, who do you think will get it? Someone from Bob's School of Business or someone with a Degree from U of T???C Dick said:
Also remember the old sayings: you only get what you pay for and the other one: a foolish man pays too much, but an idiot pays too little. There is a reason an accredited University charges $2300.00 for a class and a reason CDI (or similar) charges $120.00.......
Ryerson has ALWAYS had status in Ontario, it was part of the college system that was introduced in the 60's. Due to the very specific programmes, and the quality of teaching it offered, it was "upgraded" to University status.tboy said:
RPI's theatre programme was probably far superior to any university fine arts programme back in the early 80's
As I stated, they didn't receive their UNIVERSITY status until like 10 yrs ago....thanks for reiterating my post...Compromised said:
tboy said:
Back 10 years ago the private collages like CDI charged much more then the public schools.
Dont forget though that the Universities get much of their money from the government. Also 2300 a class? Not in this country.
That being said, from personal experience and otherwise, I would never go to one of those private sector collages. The inner Libertarian in me dies a little every time I think or say it, but you are better off going to a government backed collage or university, if that option exists.
Ok folks, simmer down. I was just giving a for instance and haven't actually priced out any university or career college tuition. Although I have previously priced out Rye High certificate programs so I have an idea of what some typical costs are. I was also basing my comments on the fact that I knew someone who went to DeVry many years ago and he told me at the time, his electronics courses were about 1/10th the cost of the same courses at centennial college. Now things may have changed, but I doubt very dramatically.
As for the 11K, Kacy I think you're referring to that design college downtown that charges outrageous amounts for their courses.
I still stand by my comment that if I was going to go to school, I'd like to go to a school where I will receive accredation for what I've learned and respect in the workplace for it.
As for the 11K, Kacy I think you're referring to that design college downtown that charges outrageous amounts for their courses.
I still stand by my comment that if I was going to go to school, I'd like to go to a school where I will receive accredation for what I've learned and respect in the workplace for it.
That is absolutely true, for some fields. In business, you are correct, a degree likely would count for a lot. But for a sales position, it might be more based on if you have a track record in the industry than a degree but no experience. Same with some IT fields, you can find people with credentials who just can't do the job. You can find people who are MCSE (Microsoft Certified Systems Engineers) who are utterly incapable of working with computers.tboy said:
Programs like the ones you mentioned might offer better job chances but in a VERY specific career area.
I've heard good things about RCC at the technical end. From what I heard, they have some kind of degree program. Again though, it is a good name for a specific market, useless outside of it.
I've heard good things about RCC at the technical end. From what I heard, they have some kind of degree program. Again though, it is a good name for a specific market, useless outside of it.
I was quoted 14 K for a 52 week paralegal program last spring from Trios.tboy said:
Most of my BA is done but I started investigating an alternative career option.
According to the councelor, they must provide the government with glowing employment statistics in order for OSAP to recognize it as a legitimate college, therefore they work hard at getting you employed once you earn your degree.
Trios' program (at the time) was the only school (government-funded or private) that was recognized by the Law Society of Upper Canada (may now have changed).
But the environment did not feel academic to me.
My momentary exploration of the paralegal profession ended and I decided to keep going with my BA and keep saving for the 22 K USD that I'll be spending on my post-grad tuition....
I went looking for some current pricing at DeVry before and couldn't see anything except if I filled out an online form.kacy said:
Kacy: you're right, seems like DeVry's costs have gone up significantly over the years. Guess success does that eh? I do remember my friend did in fact get a decent job after graduating.
Think again......tboy said:
I went to CDI and I paid $13,000 for an 11 month Network Technician course.
They arrange for you to take all of your certification exams with Microsoft, A+, etc, so I guess in essence if CDI courses are not taken seriously at least you have your certs to fall back on.
Mind you this was 8-9 yrs ago and it was before they bought out The Toronto School of Business (which I also went to before CDI and paid $7,000 for a 6 month course) but I doubt their prices have changed much.
Your information about tuition fees is out of date. CDI College and similar private business schools regularly charge tuitions in the neigbourhood of 5 - 12k for courses that are 30 - 52 weeks long. These are short-term, high-intensity programs intended to get the student trained for a specific job and into the work force as quickly as possible.tboy said:
