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Yemen is preparing a large-scale offensive against Houthi rebels: 80,000 troops are involved

Vinson

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Good, let the Yemenites take their country back and get rid of these Islamofascists of the Houthis, maybe with some coordination from the US.

The Yemeni government is mobilizing 80,000 troops to attack the strategic city of Hodeida and advance to the capital Sanaa. This is the largest military campaign since 2014.

According to reports, preparations are underway for an attack on the strategic port city of Hodeidah, located on the Red Sea coast.

The planned operation aims not only to liberate the port, but also to advance further along the coast - up to the preparation of an assault on the country's capital, Sana'a. Experts emphasize that this is the largest military campaign in the entire war, which has been going on since 2014.

The Houthis, an armed group supported by Iran, seized Sana'a, removing the internationally recognized government from power. In response, a coalition led by Saudi Arabia launched hostilities in support of the legitimate leadership of Yemen. Over the years of the war, the country has found itself in a deep humanitarian crisis.

Recently, the Houthis have gone beyond the internal conflict: they have attacked Israel with drones and attacked shipping in the Red Sea, which has provoked an international reaction. The United States launched a series of airstrikes on their positions and held a meeting with representatives of the Yemeni government. Washington is expected to provide air support in the event of active hostilities, but at the same time is trying to avoid deeper involvement in the conflict.

 

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Washington is expected to provide air support in the event of active hostilities, but at the same time is trying to avoid deeper involvement in the conflict.
We'll see how long that commitment to "avoid deeper involvement in the conflict" lasts.
 

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Houtis is about to get their shit pushed in...
Wow, the US is going to attack one of the poorest nations in the world.
Again.

They spent $1 billion bombing Yemen so far.

They could always just tell Israel to end the frigging genocide.
 

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If the Yemeni govt attacks, ansar allah will attack saudi oil again. This is possibly why mbs recently visited Iran and delivered a letter to Khamenei from King Salman.
 

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Houtis is about to get their shit pushed in...
Well bless my ass!

Does Trump understand that he's just aligned with al-Qaeda? That map that basketcase2 shows, the yellow part is al-Qaeda.

As Taggart said in Blazing Saddles, "we got suckered in".

 
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To be fair to Frank, I am not sure he realizes the Yemen conflict pre-dates October 7, 2023.
I'm aware of the Saudi/Yemen war and the history.
I could say 'Houthis' and be more accurate but the accepted term on this forum is Yemen, unless you're pushing the Israeli views.

I hear they just posted that they downed their 21st reaper drone, @ about $30 million per.
The US has spent $1 billion bombing Yemen (or Houthis for you, if you think they are not targeting the entire country).
How long did the Saudi war last before this?

How long before trump starts bombing universities that protest in the US?
They've imported enough other police state/fascist techniques, is that going to be next?

 

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Good Job !! Keep hitting.

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US attacks Yemen again after at least 80 people killed in Hodeidah

The United States has carried out 13 air strikes on Hodeidah’s port and airport, the Houthi-affiliated TV channel Al Masirah says, two days after a US air strike targeted the Ras Isa port, also in Hodeidah, killing at least 80 people and wounding more than 150.

Al Masirah also reported Saturday that three people were killed and four injured due to a US attack on al-Thawra, Bani Matar, and al-Safiah districts in the capital Sanaa.

The Houthis have promised to carry out “more operations” despite the ongoing US attacks.

US President Donald Trump’s administration announced a major military offensive against the Houthis a few weeks ago. It said the air strikes are aimed at forcing the Houthis to stop threatening ships sailing on the Red Sea on a route crucial to international trade.

Since November 2023, the group has reportedly launched more than 100 attacks on vessels it says are linked to Israel in response to Israel’s war on Gaza and in solidarity with Palestinians.

On Friday, Houthi official Mohammed Nasser al-Atifi told Al Masirah that the “American enemy’s crimes” will not deter the Yemeni people from supporting Gaza, but “rather will strengthen their steadfastness and resilience”.

The Houthis, also known as Ansar Allah or “supporters of God”, are an armed group that controls most parts of Yemen, including Sanaa. The group emerged in the 1990s but rose to prominence in 2014 when it seized Sanaa and forced President Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi to flee the country.

 

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US won't let 'terrorists' hide in Somalia, says President Trump
‘Time for the terrorists to hide, but it won’t do them any good,' says Trump, touting Dan Caine, the new US military chief

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US President Donald Trump said Sunday that the US would not let “terrorists” hide among the people of Somalia.

“We will support the Somali People, who should not allow the Houthis to embed (which they are trying to do!), to end terrorism, and bring prosperity to their Country,” he wrote on social media, referring to the Yemeni Houthis, who have been targeting ships connected with Israel in a show of solidarity with besieged Gaza.

Somalia is situated in the Horn of Africa, close to Yemen.

“Time for the terrorists to hide, but it won’t do them any good. Our Warfighters, the Greatest the World has ever seen, will find them, and bring them to swift Justice,” Trump added.

“I just ... empowered our Warfighters, once again, just like I did against our fight with ISIS (Daesh), who were completely obliterated in three weeks under General Daniel Caine, our new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.”

Trump previously said that Caine was "instrumental in the complete annihilation” of ISIS.

In a 2018 speech, during his first term as president, Trump said Caine had told him ISIS could be defeated in a week.

 

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I'm aware of the Saudi/Yemen war and the history.
I could say 'Houthis' and be more accurate but the accepted term on this forum is Yemen, unless you're pushing the Israeli views.
Really?
Why?
Who decided that?
Is this for all contexts?
Only people pushing Israeli views acknowledge there is a conflict in Yemen?
Or is it only in the context of American bombing operations?

Are you saying that this thread - if it wasn't posted by someone who was pushing Israeli views - would say "Yemen is preparing a large-scale offensive against Yemen rebels: 80,000 troops are involved" ?

I hear they just posted that they downed their 21st reaper drone, @ about $30 million per.
The US has spent $1 billion bombing Yemen (or Houthis for you, if you think they are not targeting the entire country).
How long did the Saudi war last before this?
The Saudi military action in Yemen?
That's been going on since 2015, no?

I'm curious where the $1billion for bombing in Yemen comes from.

How long before trump starts bombing universities that protest in the US?
They've imported enough other police state/fascist techniques, is that going to be next?
No.
There will be police crackdowns and shootings long before bombings ever show up.
 
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Really?
Why?
Who decided that?
Is this for all contexts?
Only people pushing Israeli views acknowledge there is a conflict in Yemen?
Or is it only in the context of American bombing operations?
Most MSM articles will say the US is attacking Yemen, occasionally they will specify Houthis.
Its a good question, why do you think they conflate the two groups?

Are you saying that this thread - if it wasn't posted by someone who was pushing Israeli views - would say "Yemen is preparing a large-scale offensive against Yemen rebels: 80,000 troops are involved" ?
Are you saying you take vinson's posts seriously?


The Saudi military action in Yemen?
That's been going on since 2015, no?
Pretty much, the US backed the Saudis who backed the government and Iran backed the Houthis.
There had been a ceasefire in 2022 before the Houthis took offence at the Gaza genocide.

I'm curious where the $1billion for bombing in Yemen comes from.
trump and Biden.


No.
There will be police crackdowns and shootings long before bombings ever show up.
Stink cannons, noise cannons, Pegaus, AI drones and a few others are already imported and in use.
The demonization of student protesters is pretty, hopefully it never goes as far as a Kent State action.
Though the attacks on universities themselves are already in the discussion for being as bad as the ICE arrests.
 

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Most MSM articles will say the US is attacking Yemen, occasionally they will specify Houthis.
Its a good question, why do you think they conflate the two groups?
So this is a news media thing, not a forum thing?
You can tell the news media is pushing Israeli propaganda whenever they say "Houthi"?

Sorry.
I'm just finding this a bit difficult to follow.

Do you think every use of the word "Yemen" is "conflating the two groups"?

(I'm not even sure what two groups you think are being conflated.)

Are you saying you take vinson's posts seriously?
Are you saying the IRG isn't planning to amass troops?
I'm trying to figure out this rule you have about when the word "Yemen" gets to be used and by whom.

Pretty much, the US backed the Saudis who backed the government and Iran backed the Houthis.
There had been a ceasefire in 2022 before the Houthis took offence at the Gaza genocide.
So is your answer just 10 years?
Or is it 7?

That article says the one billion is just Trump in his attacks since March 15.

The total cost of the US military’s operation against the Iran-backed Houthi militants in Yemen is nearing $1 billion in just under three weeks, even as the attacks have had limited impact on destroying the terror group’s capabilities, three people briefed on the campaign’s progress told CNN.


The military offensive, which was launched on March 15, has already used hundreds of millions of dollars worth of munitions for strikes against the group, including JASSM long-range cruise missiles, JSOWs, which are GPS-guided glide bombs, and Tomahawk missiles, the sources said.

Cool. Thanks for sourcing that.

So 1 billion as of a bit more than two weeks ago. I don't know if they've been maintaining that same pace, but if so then close to two billion by now.


Stink cannons, noise cannons, Pegaus, AI drones and a few others are already imported and in use.
The demonization of student protesters is pretty, hopefully it never goes as far as a Kent State action.
Though the attacks on universities themselves are already in the discussion for being as bad as the ICE arrests.
Absolutely.
But we aren't anywhere near "bombing the schools" yet.

We haven't had the US government bomb something in their own city since I was a kid.
 

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So this is a news media thing, not a forum thing?
You can tell the news media is pushing Israeli propaganda whenever they say "Houthi"?

Sorry.
I'm just finding this a bit difficult to follow.

Do you think every use of the word "Yemen" is "conflating the two groups"?

(I'm not even sure what two groups you think are being conflated.)
Its the news and the forum in general. People will post about attacks on 'Yemen' and articles will say the US is bombing Yemen.
The two groups? Houthis (Shia) and the government (Sunni)


Are you saying the IRG isn't planning to amass troops?
I'm trying to figure out this rule you have about when the word "Yemen" gets to be used and by whom.
There is no rule, its used in a lazy manner here and elsewhere. As I was saying.
I don't take vinson's posts seriously enough to check to see whether they are worth discussing.

So is your answer just 10 years?
Or is it 7?
Of what?
Your question is not clear.

That article says the one billion is just Trump in his attacks since March 15.

The total cost of the US military’s operation against the Iran-backed Houthi militants in Yemen is nearing $1 billion in just under three weeks, even as the attacks have had limited impact on destroying the terror group’s capabilities, three people briefed on the campaign’s progress told CNN.

The military offensive, which was launched on March 15, has already used hundreds of millions of dollars worth of munitions for strikes against the group, including JASSM long-range cruise missiles, JSOWs, which are GPS-guided glide bombs, and Tomahawk missiles, the sources said.


Cool. Thanks for sourcing that.

So 1 billion as of a bit more than two weeks ago. I don't know if they've been maintaining that same pace, but if so then close to two billion by now.
Right, I'm not sure of how much Biden spent trying to do the same thing. $600 million in Reaper drones so far.


Absolutely.
But we aren't anywhere near "bombing the schools" yet.

We haven't had the US government bomb something in their own city since I was a kid.
Philadelphia?
 

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Its the news and the forum in general. People will post about attacks on 'Yemen' and articles will say the US is bombing Yemen.
Fine.
But that doesn't then mean that they only specify "Houthi" when advancing Israeli talking points/view points.

The two groups? Houthis (Shia) and the government (Sunni)
Are you saying that whenever anyone says "Yemen" they are trying to conflate the two sides of the civil war?

Ok, cool.
So both are used here.

Is this a pro-Israeli piece?
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There is no rule, its used in a lazy manner here and elsewhere. As I was saying.
I don't take vinson's posts seriously enough to check to see whether they are worth discussing.
Then if there is no rule, why did you say this in post #13?

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You are clearly implying people only use "Houthi" and not Yemen to push isreali views.

Of what?
Your question is not clear.
You asked, "How long did the Saudi war last before this?"

So do you consider the answer 7 years or 10?

Right, I'm not sure of how much Biden spent trying to do the same thing. $600 million in Reaper drones so far.
Biden reduced the strikes in Yemen, as you know.
Picked up again in 2024.

Trump's nowhere near his 2017 totals yet, either.

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Philadelphia?
That's the one.
 

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Fine.
But that doesn't then mean that they only specify "Houthi" when advancing Israeli talking points/view points.
They don't, basketcase did. That was the context and you are trying to change it.

Are you saying that whenever anyone says "Yemen" they are trying to conflate the two sides of the civil war?
No.


Ok, cool.
So both are used here.

Is this a pro-Israeli piece?
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Then if there is no rule, why did you say this in post #13?

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You are clearly implying people only use "Houthi" and not Yemen to push isreali views.
Again, this is in context of replies, largely to basketcase. His particular take is similar to his use of the word 'Hamas' in these threads. He'll conflate Hamas and Palestinians in order to demonize Palestinians in general and does a similar tactic with Yemen to support US attacks that are clearly civilian targets. Its an age old device that people who support state terrorism use to justify targeting civilians.

You asked, "How long did the Saudi war last before this?"

So do you consider the answer 7 years or 10?
I'm not interested in this subject in this debate. This is you playing prof again.


Biden reduced the strikes in Yemen, as you know.
Picked up again in 2024.

Trump's nowhere near his 2017 totals yet, either.

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I see why you like airwars. That chart is useful for the number of attacks but their frame of reference seems to largely justify hitting civilian targets, where they will accept rationalizations for targeting civilian targets like refugee camps, schools and hospitals as 'fair' based on unsupported claims by the aggressor.

Declaring war crimes as 'fair' is not helpful.

That chart also is a good example of the futility of 'fair' attacks on civilians and other countries. Similar to the futility of the wars and attacks in Afghanistan, Libya and Syria, they never achieve any good, unless your idea of good is surrounding yourself with failed states and angry people.

The attacks on Yemen are as useless but not nearly as evil as the genocide on Palestinians.

Again, my thesis here is the blowback doctrine, what the US aids in Israel is farking evil and once that evil becomes acceptable it becomes acceptable to bring it home.
 

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They don't, basketcase did. That was the context and you are trying to change it.
You're the one who claimed that using it means you are promoting Israeli viewpoints, Frank.

If you just meant basketcase in this one instance just fucking say that.

Cool.
Then what the fuck are you trying to actually say?

Again, this is in context of replies, largely to basketcase. His particular take is similar to his use of the word 'Hamas' in these threads. He'll conflate Hamas and Palestinians in order to demonize Palestinians in general and does a similar tactic with Yemen to support US attacks that are clearly civilian targets. Its an age old device that people who support state terrorism use to justify targeting civilians.
OK, so you didn't mean what you said, you meant something else that was specifically about basketcase.
Then why bring the media into it?

I'm not interested in this subject in this debate. This is you playing prof again.
I love how whenever I question you on some random thing you said you get mad and saying I am playing prof.

YOU brought up the question "How long did the Saudi war last before this?"
You brought it up unprovoked.
Now you say that getting an answer to the question is "playing prof".

Why the fuck did you bring up the question if you didn't care about the answer?
If it was rhetorical question, what rhetorical point did you think you were accomplishing here that you immediately backed off from it and complained when someone engaged with your point?

I see why you like airwars. That chart is useful for the number of attacks but their frame of reference seems to largely justify hitting civilian targets, where they will accept rationalizations for targeting civilian targets like refugee camps, schools and hospitals as 'fair' based on unsupported claims by the aggressor.
LOL!
You're going to claim moral superiority to Airwars?
Amazing.


Declaring war crimes as 'fair' is not helpful.

That chart also is a good example of the futility of 'fair' attacks on civilians and other countries. Similar to the futility of the wars and attacks in Afghanistan, Libya and Syria, they never achieve any good, unless your idea of good is surrounding yourself with failed states and angry people.
Do you honestly think airwars is pro bombing?
 
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