YMMV as a Paradoxical Lottery

[nolabel]

So there was a thread in the incall section, called 'truth in advertising', where the issue of YMMV was debated (again, I imagine). Just to throw the cat amongst the pidgeons (i.e: shit stirring) - and with the risk of pissing off the moderators, those loathe to rock any boat, and maybe some SP's here:

. . . isn't saying "YMMV is a fact of life, get over it" a recipe for playing a paradoxical lottery?

Consider . . .
- Being the sweetie you are you approach your SP adventure fully acknowledging the human elements (respectful, cleanliness, and accepting YMMV as a product of the intangibility of chemistry (clicking or not, as some write)). You are so nice, let me squeeze those cheeks.
- But your SP approaches it as business, so that YMMV is a weasel word for managing your business transactions as you see fit at that point in time. The client is human, sure, but mostly a medium of exchange, managed by something called a YMMV factor. In the end, it is JUST business, sweet stuff; in reality the SP is not your girlfriend.
- The client thinks 'mechanical'. Probably gets reminded of YMMV, even though he knew it and tried to accomodate it by being respectful, clean, etc.
- So next time the client goes all business-minded. What's on the menu, if it's a business transaction? But now the client gets chided for not acknowledging the human elements. Doh! It's MORE than business; SP's are not robots.
- So client goes back to the sweet and caring approach . . .
- YOU ARE NOW IN THE CIRCLE!!! YOU ARE GETTING DIZZY!!!

Note how you can get ran around in circles very easy, with this whole YMMV stuff? The only way out of the vicious circle is to acknowledge the game you're actually playing . . . rolling the dice, hoping it works out.

That's probably not a satisfactory conclusion, but nor is it really affected - if you follow the circularity you get caught in - by saying do your research, write reviews, etc, etc. It is what it is, it seems, even if none of us want to get shafted by the YMMV stick.

But it would be cool if someone could prove me wrong - that we're not, ultimately, playing a paradoxical lottery.

 

[pc0mo]

if you show up clean , a gentlemen and are nice and courteous it will go along way. its the most important gift you can bring to a SP , flowers chocolates even sexy clothing is a extra but being clean a gentlemen and courteous always will put you right up there in the YMMV ,


so brush your teeth before you leave , shower well before your appointment and while at the appointment , use deodorant when at your appointment use the mouth wash , be nice from the moment you open to the door to when you leave and it wont be a problem well shouldnt be a problem.

 

[Thiscouldbegood]

I disagree, if the sp is not going to offer her best service to any specific customer she should say sorry at the door, just as some of us do the oh forgot my wallet in the car trick.

 

[punter]

After all, I wouldnt want to know what she "offers", it's all part of the fun finding out what she will do.

Maybe for you, but for me, and most, I suspect, it's much more fun to get what you payed for and what was advertized. This is not dating - it's business.

 

[nolabel]

But everything's a lottery...Going to a new restaurant is a lottery...Once you found one you like, just stick to it, and recommend it.

and this disagrees with my point that it's a lottery how....?

 

[nolabel]

*groaning* We go through this debate every couple of months or so....

Bottom line is this:

. . . followed by repeating my points, in some form that suggests they were not my points . . .

Bottom line is actually to point that the bottom line is that it's a lottery. All these 'remedial' solutions to YMMV (be clean, polite, la la la) make the same mistake complaining about YMMV does: they presume you can jump out of the circle . . . try the human angle, you bump into the business angle; try the business angle, you bump into the human angle . . .

gotta think through the paradox...

 

[Anynym]

I disagree, if the sp is not going to offer her best service to any specific customer she should say sorry at the door, just as some of us do the oh forgot my wallet in the car trick.

Not to reduce this to the level of other commercial transactions, but if you take your car to a mechanic, do you think that he's having his best day every day? That if he's having a bit of an off day, perhaps nursing a hangover or recovering from a grumpy customer, that he should say sorry when you bring your car in and tell you to come back another day?

IMHO, YMMV simply acknowledges that every situation is unique. There are ways to stand out above the huddled masses, but I even treat my closest friends better on some days than others.

 

[Grass_Hopper]

YMMV simply acknowledges that every situation is unique. There are ways to stand out above the huddled masses, but I even treat my closest friends better on some days than others.

Even at this point, my clients are not my best friends...
If you wake me up at 5AM, I may be grumpy and lazy, as a dentist...

Same about being clean... If I think you're not, I will send you back in the shower, and nomatter if you're a regular or not, as a massotherapist...

I DO NOT OFFER YMMV, as certain are stating... I'm a professionnal, offering you a professionnal service (not to be confused with mechanical...), and I offer a FULL GFE.

If I figure that we have absolutly NOTHING in common, and no connection can be made, I'll just ask you to leave...

 

[shack]

but I even treat my closest friends better on some days than others.

Do they resent paying you the same amount on those days you're not your best?

 

[moviefan]

Bottom line is, this is an issue that keeps getting dredged up every couple of months..... use the search function and see the many many many MANY discussions.

Maybe we can combine the question with that other recurring theme and ask the whole thing this way:

If I ask an SP out on a date, do you think my mileage will vary?

 

[Danolo]

I don't normally repeat with a SP, so maybe I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, but, I suspect that if I did find a SP that I did connect with in a significant way, I'd want to repeat... and I also suspect that repeating will up the mileage and increase the satisfaction for both of us.

I suspect that a SP would rather have someone coming to see her who she knows, has been with before, and knows they are safe, clean, etc.

My only problem with repeating is that I continue to search for that elusive woman that will give me that experience that I've only had a couple times in my life...

Maybe I'm foolish to search for that.... but frankly if it was only about getting my rocks off, I find my "handy" buddy works just as well.

I don't hobby a lot... maybe once a month or so, but when I do, I always enter into the process in hopes of finding that special woman....

I will continue my search...

 

[nolabel]

Bottom line is, this is an issue that keeps getting dredged up every couple of months..... use the search function and see the many many many MANY discussions.

Yes, what I've learned is the TERB trick for 'too hard' . . . do a search. But that's no fun if my question was different, because the discussions all seem to arrive at the same silly conclusions. Either conditions on the client (do this, don't do that), or conditions on the service (should be at least this, don't do that). The point is not that conditions do not matter. It is that the conditions are are cross-purposes when you think them through: 'solutions' for one side of the 'equation' lead to 'problems' for the other side.

I just found it interesting that when I did do the commanded search, prior to being commanded to do so, the collective responses constantly tied themselves in knots. Hence, is the moral of the story that sometimes something cannot be solved, and that discussion should be about the highs and lows of rolling the dice?

 

[MuffinMuncher]

Ymmv

Your Mileage May Vary - taken literally it means that your experience may be different from everyone else's. The question is how to come out on the positive side of whatever you expected going in.... how to consistently exceed your own initial expectations for the encounter. Right?

It is different than playing the lottery simply because I can influence the outcome when I see an MPA or SP. My destiny is at least partially within my control, determined by my thoughts, words and actions. Much like a lab rat in a maze, you eventually learn how to get "the cheese" - all it takes is practice, trial-and-error, a few bad dates and the acceptance that despite your own best efforts you are not going to click with every girl.

But whatever you do, never convince yourself that there's some secret code for answering the YMMV riddle. All you can do is shift the odds in your favor, you are never going to solve it.

 

[moresex4me]

If you don't get it, don't repeat. If you never get it, re-assess what it is about you that may be causing the problem. Not that different than anything else in life... Give it a try and if it's not to your taste, don't go back... if you like, repeat.

 

[LadyTY2Uall]

Even at this point, my clients are not my best friends...
If you wake me up at 5AM, I may be grumpy and lazy, as a dentist...

Same about being clean... If I think you're not, I will send you back in the shower, and nomatter if you're a regular or not, as a massotherapist...

I DO NOT OFFER YMMV, as certain are stating... I'm a professionnal, offering you a professionnal service (not to be confused with mechanical...), and I offer a FULL GFE.
If I figure that we have absolutly NOTHING in common, and no connection can be made, I'll just ask you to leave...

Ditto !!

 

[LadyTY2Uall]

YMMV is not like a lottery IMO, In a lottery you win or you lose. With YMMV you always win, the question is how much you will win

As long as you are clean, polite and respectful you should always get the best a girl can offer. The only time I 'give more or less' depends on mechanical comfort,,,,as in, you want anal? but you are packing a monster dong?,,,,chances are slim you will get it simply because you are too big. Or, you want deep throat but have a 12 inch 'buddy',,,,yah, good luck with that lol.

Barring those type of mechanics your mileage should always be the very best offered.

Having said that, a regular client will sometimes get a little extra mileage in flexibility of time or scheduling....for example, I do not usually work early mornings or past midnight but for a regular client I will and there have been occasions that I have extended their booked time simply because we are having so much fun or because we both lost track of time.

 

[Rockslinger]

YMMV is not like a lottery IMO, In a lottery you win or you lose. With YMMV you always win, the question is how much you will win

Did someone say there is no such thing as a bad orgasm or BJ?

 

[Peter123]

There has to be a bottom line

If the SP accepts your cash....CFS, CBJ, getting naked, touching and kissing most of her...these things should be taken for granted...if she is that turned off by you then she should turn you around at the door...

other things....greek, anal fingering, DFK, DATY, the "intensity" of the attraction, etc, etc---yeah those are all YMMV....and certainly they depend on how you and the lady connect...

That's why I think being up front up what you are looking for is very helpful--although SPs can be coy about what they offer....

 

[Anynym]

do they resent paying you the same amount on those days you're not your best?

wtf?

 

[LadyTY2Uall]

Did someone say there is no such thing as a bad orgasm or BJ?

LMAO Not me that's for sure