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Zelensky’s Gauntlet – Did Ukraine Just Draw the USA and NATO Closer to War with Russia by Targeting Russian Strategic Long-Range Bombers Covered by SA

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.................................... People are laughing at the long-range Russian bombers being left out in the open, vulnerable to attack. However, the bomber visibility is required as part of several nuclear agreements between the USA and Russia (SALT and START). Our U.S. long range nuclear capable bombers, covered under the same agreements, are also visible.

Ukraine President Zelenskyy is playing with fire by targeting them, which also explains why Zelenskyy never told President Trump in advance.

The U.S and NATO have provided the means. However, #1) did Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy just exploit a vulnerability by targeting Russian long-range nuclear capable bombers? and #2) was the CIA and NATO intelligence community a willfully blind participant knowing they would benefit?

Both the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (SALT) and the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), call for U.S. and Russian long range nuclear capable bombers to remain “visible and observable by national technical means of verification.” That open visibility creates a mutual vulnerability as well as a method of surveillance and verification for both the USA and Russian Federation.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and by extension his NATO enablers, just exploited that SALT/START vulnerability and used drones to attack Russian bombers covered by USA-Russia treaties. There are reports (and videos) now surfacing from inside Russia showing the Russian Federation moving strategic long-range mobile missile launchers into position for a counterattack against Ukraine.

This situation is obviously very fluid and let us all hope that President Trump and President Putin are in communication about this escalation as created by Zelenskyy and his enablers, even if -and probably especially if- our own intelligence agencies are part of the enabling.

Think about the ramifications of NATO enabled Ukraine targeting major Russian military assets which are vulnerable only because they are part of a previously agreed U.S-Russia negotiation to remain vulnerable. In essence, an argument can be made by Russia that NATO -and by extension us- have targeted nuclear capable missile systems, and those systems were protected by the SALT/START treaties. How would we respond of an adversary launched a strike against our strategic long-range nuclear capable bombers in the USA?

I cannot imagine how President Trump would address a phone call with President Putin when the leader of the Russian Federation confronts him with the reality that it was NATO and USA military support, actual hardware and technical capability, that has provided Ukraine with the ability to target strategic nuclear weapons.

If President Trump did not know of the strike target in advance, which is the element being reported and confirmed by multiple media outlets, this would indeed put Trump in a very difficult position. That reality is likely the motive for Ukraine never to have informed the White House.

Keep in mind the SALT/START treaties are between the USA and Russia only, not necessarily including NATO or European countries. However, the U.S. govt has publicly and openly been sending military hardware and technical resources into Ukraine.

If President Trump or his National Security Council were made aware that Ukraine was going to strike at nuclear capable targets covered by strategic defense agreements, I strongly doubt President Trump, or any member of his administration would have approved or consented to any participation or support. This is just too strong a provocation to enlarge the conflict and draw NATO into it even deeper.

What happens next is unknown.

President Barack Obama negotiated New START, a successor to President Ronald Reagan’s 1994 START I Treaty. START I cut long-range, or strategic, nuclear arsenals by 30-40 percent. New START slashed accountable deployed strategic arms by another three-quarters. In 2021, Presidents Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin extended New START until next February 2026.


 

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Now Putin can thank Zelensky to have given him the freedom
to make his strategic bombers capable of delivering nuclear bombs
invisible to NATO-Europe.
 
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SchlongConery

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Now Putin can thank Zelensky to have given him the freedom
to make his strategic bombers capable of delivering nuclear bombs
invisible to NATO-Europe.

Zelenskyy can make what's left of the aging, out-of-production, bombers truly stealth. 😜

Putin can barely keep his stolen western airliners flying and their own commercial and military aerospace industry hasn't produced a single aircraft in years. What makes you think he can muster enough design brain-power to design and enough CNC machinery to produce a stealth airframe, new engines, an integrated avionics system that can also shield the crude nuclear bomb payload from radar and other means of detection? Or is Putin going to design a new nuke too?

These, among other things, show how cluelessly optimistic you are about Russia's abilities.

Russia has already failed. Again. It just hasn't fallen. Yet.
 

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OMG!!!!

Oily's buddy Putin has just broken off the peace talks!!!!

Now Ukraine is in real trouble!!!

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oil&gas

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OMG!!!!

Oily's buddy Putin has just broken off the peace talks!!!!

Now Ukraine is in real trouble!!!
Any of Ukraine's trouble will be worthy of more great news
like drone attacks taking out Russian bombers and destruction
of Russian missile launchers.
 

SchlongConery

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OMG!!!!

Oily's buddy Putin has just broken off the peace talks!!!!

Now Ukraine is in real trouble!!!

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Who would be so foolish as to bother with "peace talks" with unrepentant, lying terrorists?

Wasn't that Zelenskyy who said that long ago about Putin? Passed it into a law even?


Zelenskyy and anyone who knows Russian history and their mindset knows that negotiations with them are futile. Even if they agree to terms, Russians will not stick to them as they never intended to. Maybe Nottski, the addicted one or the oily and gassy one can tell us the Russian word for "good faith" . For some reason I don't think the concept even exists in the russian mind. Except as an exploit in the negotiation double dealing playbook.
 
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Insidious Von

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Putin has said from the very beginning that he will not compromise on Ukraine. It's either unconditional surrender or annihilation.

Maybe TACO can soften his heart by putting on Sexy French Maid lingerie.

 
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SchlongConery

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Putin has said from the very beginning that he will not compromise on Ukraine. It's either unconditional surrender or annihilation.
Will Putin compromise with the failure of the /9cerrent) Russian SSR, state, Federation, /Thieving Club or whatever the latest thing they live the fantasy of the Russki Mirs?

I wonder if hapless Russians who can't think for themselves are promised 72 Bags of Potatoes* to become martyrs to the Motherland? 🤔



*Can be either in the skin or peeled, mashed and distilled into that clear "Russian Lifeblood"?



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Robert Mugabe

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Just watching CNN with some retired US general discussion, the 75-minute conversation Trump had with Putin where Putin said he would launch a strong retaliation for the drone attack on his planes. The general said Trump should have told Putin that doing so would cost many Ukrainian lives and might have consequences such as trade sanctions. Should have warned Putin not to do so. The interviewer managed to keep a straight face.
 

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Just watching CNN with some retired US general discussion, the 75-minute conversation Trump had with Putin where Putin said he would launch a strong retaliation for the drone attack on his planes. The general said Trump should have told Putin that doing so would cost many Ukrainian lives and might have consequences such as trade sanctions. Should have warned Putin not to do so. The interviewer managed to keep a straight face.
Imagine what would happen if US media started declaring that trump knew about operation spiderweb before it happened and didn't warn him.
 

SchlongConery

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Just watching CNN with some retired US general discussion, the 75-minute conversation Trump had with Putin where Putin said he would launch a strong retaliation for the drone attack on his planes. The general said Trump should have told Putin that doing so would cost many Ukrainian lives and might have consequences such as trade sanctions. Should have warned Putin not to do so. The interviewer managed to keep a straight face.
Again, the outspoken loudmouth chickenshit traitor provides more evidence-by-omission that he is a betrothen puppet of Putin.
 
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WyattEarp

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Fuck putin and fuck Donald taco. They both broke the agreement their countries signed to never allow an invasion if Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine giving Russia back its nukes. Of course the lying taco will deny it. Maybe he will donate a bunch of f35s to Russia to help his cause
You need to stand back. Look at the Ukrainian war and the problem it presents to global security without getting lost in the political personalities.

My only immediate concern is a somewhat peaceful resolution.
 

SchlongConery

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You need to stand back. Look at the Ukrainian war and the problem it presents to global security without getting lost in the political personalities.

My only immediate concern is a somewhat peaceful resolution.

Stand further back and you will see the real underlying problem is Russia's tactic of creating fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) and attacking smaller countries they think will enrich their self-delusions of strength and greatness.

Ukraine fighting back against Putin's Russia is the first thing any western country has done to reign in Russian shit-disturbing since Reagan et al caused Russia to fail. Again. As they always eventually do, and will inevitably do again with this latest military misadventure.

Ukraine wanted nothing but freedom. Freedom from repression, oligarchical lawlessness, political jailing, to pick who their friends are and how they want to live.

Unlike Russia.
 
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Robert Mugabe

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Stand further back and you will see the real underlying problem is Russia's tactic of creating fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) and attacking smaller countries they think will enrich their self-delusions of strength and greatness.

Ukraine fighting back against Putin's Russia is the first thing any western country has done to reign in Russian shit-disturbing since Reagan et al caused Russia to fail. Again. As they always eventually do, and will inevitably do again with this latest military misadventure.

Ukraine wanted nothing but freedom. Freedom from repression, oligarchical lawlessness, political jailing, to pick who their friends are and how they want to live.

Unlike Russia.
 
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