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There is no limit to the amount of genocide you will support, nor any limit to the method.
You're the one who's been calling for 500,000 Palestinians to die. I want Hamas to surrender tomorrow but you want them to keep fighting. You are the one lusting for more death.

You KNOW that Israel will not agree to a ceasefire so don't even mention it. In light of that the only 2 options are for Hamas to surrender and give up the hostages and stop the killing or for Hamas to keep fighting so that more Palestinians die.
 

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You're the one who's been calling for 500,000 Palestinians to die. I want Hamas to surrender tomorrow but you want them to keep fighting. You are the one lusting for more death.

You KNOW that Israel will not agree to a ceasefire so don't even mention it. In light of that the only 2 options are for Hamas to surrender and give up the hostages and stop the killing or for Hamas to keep fighting so that more Palestinians die.
I do not call for anyone to die.
I call for a ceasefire.

Without a ceasefire forced by Biden Israel will try to ethnically cleanse Gaza and then start wars with Lebanon and Iran.
All to keep Netanyahu in power.

Israel is a danger to world peace.
Israel likely just committed an act of terrorism in Iran and assassinations in Lebanon and Syria.



(aside from the fact that Iran has no nukes)
 

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I do not call for anyone to die.
I call for a ceasefire.
That's a sham. You know it's not going to happen. Biden will not force them. They need Israel and they will not alienate them.

The only other options are a Hamas surrender or they keep fighting. And you have said that Hamas should not surrender. That means you are clearly calling for more Palestinian deaths.
 

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That's a sham. You know it's not going to happen. Biden will not force them. They need Israel and they will not alienate them.

The only other options are a Hamas surrender or they keep fighting. And you have said that Hamas should not surrender. That means you are clearly calling for more Palestinian deaths.
How much longer can Biden handle being made to look like a total idiot for supporting Netanyahu?
His entire rationale was that he was supporting the two state solution then Netanyahu goes and says he's proud of blocking it and will never, ever let it happen. Biden calls for less killing, Netanyahu starts killing even more.

 

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How much longer can Biden handle being made to look like a total idiot for supporting Netanyahu?
He is supporting Israel, their ally. Fuck Net.
 

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How much longer can Biden handle being made to look like a total idiot for supporting Netanyahu?
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Still pretending the Jewish Lobby has subjugated America?


A logical person would think US and Canadian governments are able to compare the actions and goals of Hamas vs Israel and decide which better fits American/Canadian values (or geopolitical interests if you are cynical) but thankfully we have people like you who know it's part of the Jewish plot to control the world.
 
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(or geopolitical interests if you are cynical)
And some folks think that unconditional support for Israel does not serve their geopolitical interests. They may even think it harms their geopolitical interests.

But if they dare to voice that opinion, they are ostracized and silenced by ... the title of this thread.
 

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Still pretending the Jewish Lobby has subjugated America?


A logical person would think US and Canadian governments are able to compare the actions and goals of Hamas vs Israel and decide which better fits American/Canadian values (or geopolitical interests if you are cynical) but thankfully we have people like you who know it's part of the Jewish plot to control the world.
Where did I mention anything about lobbying?
I have no idea why Biden backs zionism, its idiotic and contrary to the views of his party and country.

Friday.

 

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Where did I mention anything about lobbying?
I have no idea why Biden backs zionism, its idiotic and contrary to the views of his party and country.

Friday.

This may give Biden the fig leaf he needs to pivot. Also the internal cracks within Israel's government and populace seem to be widening. A couple of dozen IDF soldiers were killed in one day, what, day before yesterday. Look for a Hebrew translation of" 🎶Be the first one on your block to have your boy come home in a box🎶...
 

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He's backing up Netanyahu's personal genocidal attempt to salvage a fading political career.
The US is supporting their most important ally in the area. Net just happens to be the Prime Minister at the time that his happened.
You're just in it for the genocide of a people you despise.
Did you say something?
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southpaw

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Where did I mention anything about lobbying?
I have no idea why Biden backs zionism
This thread is about lobbying. And Biden is the top recipient of pro-israel money during his lengthy career as a senator. So maybe that's why.
 
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Supporting Israel's genocide will put rump in power, end Biden's career, Trudeau's and end zionism as a movement.
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Democrats turning against Biden will result in idiocy from trump who will likely make things worse for Palestinians.

And Zionism won't end because despite your racist views, the 10 million people in Israel (including Israeli Arabs) who want to remain Israeli will have their way despite whatever you and hamas do. The only question is whether Palestinian leaders will accept peace and build their own state or whether they will continue committed to violence and live in purgatory.
 

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This thread is about lobbying. And Biden is the top recipient of pro-israel money during his lengthy career as a senator. So maybe that's why.
Do you guys think American Jews don't have the right to lobby their government in the way every other American is allowed?

Do you also object to Arab Americans lobbying in support of Palestinians?
 
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