Would you reccomend marriage??

[wazup]

If I had to do it over again "NO WAY"!!!. Not because of lack of sex but its a full time job. I love my kids I care for my wife but to me its like having another job and I have enough trouble keeping 1 job and I don't get paid for the second one.

I wonder if people say this, only to miss it if they had it taken away.

 

[blackrock13]

Pssst! Marriage is a full time job, for both sides. You do get paid for it but not in cash. Have you never had two jobs? You can't multi-task? If what you want is a new woman whenever, fine marriage isn't for you, but a partner who is your best friend is good as it gets in life's adventure. You also live longer as a couple, if living long is your bag. If your TDL is short, fair enough, but mine isn't. I need the extra time given. Do you think you're going to be as marketable at 60 or 70 to the women 20/30 years your junior? Think again, unless your portfolio is the size of a Mac truck.

 

[jetfuel]

If your parents are in their 40's you must be fairly young, early mid 20's, few people want to get married at that point. I'm 40 and past much of the partying and wonder what the hell do I do for the rest of my life. Plus by the time I meet someone and have a kid, it'll be at least 2 years, do I want to start a family at that age.

My pickings are slim, divorcees or a younger girl who I might not have much in common with. I've thought of working like a prick til I'm 50, move to the Phillipines, meet a girl, have a kid and still have some freedom. Hang out at the beach, buy a boat, come home for a few months if I want to.

I am also in my 40's, I was referring to my peers who are married and are unhappy. Funny enough I do not know too many married couples, I know alot of people who have tried it.

Yes the pickings are slim, the amount of divorcees should be a clear indication of the state of marriage in this country.

Your PLAN B sounds very good to me, I have thought of the same thing but a different destination.

 

[afterhours]

Your PLAN B sounds very good to me, I have thought of the same thing but a different destination.

I have seen guys doing it in Cuba very successfully
it does not have much infrastructure but women are second to none

 

[jetfuel]

I have seen guys doing it in Cuba very successfully
it does not have much infrastructure but women are second to none

They live there full-time. I was surprised how many Euro's were living in the Dom Rep when i went years back.

 

[TorontoWarrior]

So based on several posts here, it seems some of the guys argue that marriage is great for companionship and fulfillment...that is, someone to wake up with, someone to talk to, someone to grow together, and all that fun stuff.

However, my argument here is that if you have a great circle of friends, a supportive family, growing business and investment portfolio, disposible income to enjoy life, and see lots of SPs...believe me, that is fulfillment. I get my companionship from friends and family, and enjoy so many different varieties of SPs...and believe me, it doesn't get lonely or routine one bit!

 

[fuji]

Trust me - as a person who has experienced marriage - in the long run, hookers are much cheaper.

Apples and oranges.

 

[fuji]

However, my argument here is that if you have a great circle of friends, a supportive family, growing business and investment portfolio, disposible income to enjoy life, and see lots of SPs...believe me, that is fulfillment. I get my companionship from friends and family, and enjoy so many different varieties of SPs...and believe me, it doesn't get lonely or routine one bit!

Friends and non-immediate family aren't offering the same thing either. I have those too. They don't replace my wife. Maybe if you lived together with your best friend that would be similar, which is basically how I view my marriage in one way honestly. I think when you're in your 20's it's possible to live in a house with your best friends but it just happens in our society that as you get older your friends move on, start families, and are no longer interested in that sort of an arrangement.

I've purposely left out the whole issue of kids, which adds another dimension, because I don't have any (yet).

 

[yahoo40]

Yes, absolutely.

The notion that you can replace a marriage with a lot of sex is wrong. The sex is replaceable but it's only a small part of what the marriage offers.

I should say I don't see that much difference between getting married and living with a girlfriend for years--I have some "unmarried" friends who in fact have lives identical to mine just without the piece of paper and that seems to work well too. Either way they've got that core relationship going which I think is pretty critical to a happy life.

This notion that the purpose of a marriage is to provide sex is just stupid, also stupid is the notion that if you have good sex in your marriage you wouldn't want it anywhere else. Both ideas are wrong, and basically miss the point.

Things that are irreplaceable:

-- Waking up in the middle of the night and having a conversation with someone who really understands what you're about

-- Coming home after a long day and sitting around relaxing with a person who knows you really well

-- All the family dramas that you think you hate but somehow wind up being such an interesting part of life

That just scratches the surface--you can't replace that stuff with SP's and you can't replace that stuff with random girlfriends unless they actually live with you and aren't much different than a wife.

All the above shit is for average person who don't have anything else interesting going in their life

Above average people are so busy in doing things that are much more interesting including relationships ( excluding marriage)

They don't have time for all this time passing shit.

In the middle of the night when I wake up I prefer to talk to my dog.

In all the family drama men are at the receiving side most of the time.

Having said above , when both parties are truly living a happily married life then its like a lottery .
Most of the so called happily married couples have their own private life going on where they find the real happiness just like Fuji .

 

[69Shooter]

In the middle of the night when I wake up I prefer to talk to my dog.

Yeah, but how does the dog feel about that?

 

[blackrock13]

So based on several posts here, it seems some of the guys argue that marriage is great for companionship and fulfillment...that is, someone to wake up with, someone to talk to, someone to grow together, and all that fun stuff.

However, my argument here is that if you have a great circle of friends, a supportive family, growing business and investment portfolio, disposible income to enjoy life, and see lots of SPs...believe me, that is fulfillment. I get my companionship from friends and family, and enjoy so many different varieties of SPs...and believe me, it doesn't get lonely or routine one bit!

So if you have these six things and they are working fine and in balance it replaces a wife/companion. Which one is going to scrub you back when your leg is in a cast, changed the bandages from a bad burn (all nurse fantasies aside), or even had breakfast served in bed on a bad weather day.

To all the ladies members, in all honesty, have your ever serve a client breakfast in bed? Food people, food.

 

[yahoo40]

Yeah, but how does the dog feel about that?

I swear he feels better than my girlfriend feels .

 

[TorontoWarrior]

Yeah, but how does the dog feel about that?

The dog doesn't have a choice.

 

[blackrock13]

Yes, absolutely.

The notion that you can replace a marriage with a lot of sex is wrong. The sex is replaceable but it's only a small part of what the marriage offers.

I should say I don't see that much difference between getting married and living with a girlfriend for years--I have some "unmarried" friends who in fact have lives identical to mine just without the piece of paper and that seems to work well too. Either way they've got that core relationship going which I think is pretty critical to a happy life.

This notion that the purpose of a marriage is to provide sex is just stupid, also stupid is the notion that if you have good sex in your marriage you wouldn't want it anywhere else. Both ideas are wrong, and basically miss the point.

Things that are irreplaceable:

-- Waking up in the middle of the night and having a conversation with someone who really understands what you're about



-- Coming home after a long day and sitting around relaxing with a person who knows you really well

-- All the family dramas that you think you hate but somehow wind up being such an interesting part of life

That just scratches the surface--you can't replace that stuff with SP's and you can't replace that stuff with random girlfriends unless they actually live with you and aren't much different than a wife.

Scratching head smiley.

Fuji, I've got a problem here. Trying to put my head around your post and then remembering the your 'classy' posts sometime back. Help us out here. Mind you, you do make some good points.

When your best friend is your lover and will take care of the dog, your xmas gift list is shorter and cheaper. Another secret might be marry a women who makes more money than you, but that takes some skill.

 

[69Shooter]

Blackrock.. Kyra offers a breakfast option:

Breakfast at Kyra's

It's just after 6am and you knock on my door, I open it and you enter a little tired from the morning commute but you've managed to avoid the morning traffic and the smell of coffee fresh brewed and me wrapped in my robe is waking you up. It's looking like a wonderful day and it's barely started.

I take your umbrella for you, it's beginning to rain out and you are a little wet. You cancelled your morning meetings and are settling right back into bed with me. Breakfast is on the tray, I had room service bring it up before you arrived. Two farm fresh eggs over easy, bacon, home fries, whole wheat toast, orange juice, coffee. I'm nibbling on my oatmeal and grapefruit which I am sure you are staring longingly at. Or perhaps it's me you're staring at, I'm stretched out beside you on the bed as we lounge together; talking, watching the rain pound at the windows as the minutes tick by, people are running to their work as we sit half naked on the bed enjoying each others company knowing that we have no place else to be, just sitting with each other, talking, kissing, enjoying every inch of each other.
Time seems to stand still for us. The rain pounds the windows and we sit in our little sanctuary enjoying each other.

I am available tomorrow morning at a wonderful downtown hotel room and am hoping that you might enjoy keeping me company for a few hours. Allow me to take care of a few special details, it's one of the things I do best.

If you think this is something you'd like to arrange either for tomorrow morning or perhaps a future date please contact me via email.
Min. 2-3 hours. $900
For a longer engagement please see my website for details.
www.ABenePlacito.com
kyra.graves@yahoo.ca
​

 

[yahoo40]

The dog doesn't have a choice.

Wrong, He cares and loves more to me than my girlfriend

 

[69Shooter]

I swear he feels better than my girlfriend feels .

Okay, I didn't ask how the dog "feels", I asked how he felt about being woken in the middle of the night to hear you blabber on about something. Not exactly sure what you mean when you say the dog feels better than your girlfriend? I will leave that for others to discuss.

 

[yahoo40]

I hear you bro but the only reason to do it is kids
companionship is like partnership in business - sometimes it's good to have a partner, but if you can manage on your own you don't need a partner

+1

Additionally its also a fucking contract which one partner always fail to deliver.

Schedule of fucking should be added to the Marriage contract by Law

with the exceptions like illness etc

 

[blackrock13]

Blackrock.. Kyra offers a breakfast option:

Breakfast at Kyra's

It's just after 6am and you knock on my door, I open it and you enter a little tired from the morning commute but you've managed to avoid the morning traffic and the smell of coffee fresh brewed and me wrapped in my robe is waking you up. It's looking like a wonderful day and it's barely started.

I take your umbrella for you, it's beginning to rain out and you are a little wet. You cancelled your morning meetings and are settling right back into bed with me. Breakfast is on the tray, I had room service bring it up before you arrived. Two farm fresh eggs over easy, bacon, home fries, whole wheat toast, orange juice, coffee. I'm nibbling on my oatmeal and grapefruit which I am sure you are staring longingly at. Or perhaps it's me you're staring at, I'm stretched out beside you on the bed as we lounge together; talking, watching the rain pound at the windows as the minutes tick by, people are running to their work as we sit half naked on the bed enjoying each others company knowing that we have no place else to be, just sitting with each other, talking, kissing, enjoying every inch of each other.
Time seems to stand still for us. The rain pounds the windows and we sit in our little sanctuary enjoying each other.

I am available tomorrow morning at a wonderful downtown hotel room and am hoping that you might enjoy keeping me company for a few hours. Allow me to take care of a few special details, it's one of the things I do best.

If you think this is something you'd like to arrange either for tomorrow morning or perhaps a future date please contact me via email.
Min. 2-3 hours. $900
For a longer engagement please see my website for details.
www.ABenePlacito.com
kyra.graves@yahoo.ca
​

That 's good marketing. Keep them hoping. After a quick boo on her site, taken there of course on your referral, I have no doubt it would be amazing. This is no slight to her one bit, but offering it and having delivered it is two different things. I'm not asking for corporate secrets, but I would like to know. Mind you, you sound like your talking from experience 69S, so I'll bow to your insight. The one or two times I've been invited to a woman's home for drinks and breakfast have never been a disappointment.

 

[TorontoWarrior]

So if you have these six things and they are working fine and in balance it replaces a wife/companion. Which one is going to scrub you back when your leg is in a cast, changed the bandages from a bad burn (all nurse fantasies aside), or even had breakfast served in bed on a bad weather day.

Good question. But I'm not concerned about those things as there is so much going on in life that I don't need to lay in bed or have someone doing things for me.

I think it's all depends on our value system. What do people value? Some people highly value companionship and marriage. But I value my freedom and variety of women so marriage is not on my radar.

I know several guys that are divorced...they seem happier as they are now free to do what they want. Remember what William Wallace said: WHHAAT WOOULD YOOU DOOO WITHOOUYT FREEEDOM? (Trying to mimic a Scottish accent in text here)