Rob Fords Toronto: In His Own Words

[Sammy the Bull]

It may not have come up as an election issue, but taking a hard line against the industry would seem consistent with Ford's family-values, law & order agenda.

I dunno about that, Ford was quite the party animal himself. I think he's much more interested in cleaning up City Hall fiscally

 

[drgmmd]

Toronto needs Rob Ford..they have been taken over by left wing socialist that have driven the city towards bankruptcy not to mention being the laughing stock of the nation. He says what we feel.....clean the councel up, get rid of the waste, clean the streets up and promote business and lower taxes..it will create jobs..after all it works everywhere else!

 

[Dewalt]

I am so sorry for referring to rob ford as a wife beater. Please let me set the record straight, as evidenced by the Toronto Sun:

"Wife beating, rage inducing, drunk, pot smoking dealer."

It is right here:
"Ford told reporters outside his family's business that he does not have a criminal record. He has been charged four times in three separate incidents: Once when he was 18, after a hockey fight, once when in 2008 for assault against his wife Renata, and two charges in the Florida incident." in today's Sun.

So, it seems like his take on family values is in line with the rest of the politicians that take that line: do as I say, not as I do.

Kiss my ass boys.

 

[Sniper Jr.]

I dunno about that, Ford was quite the party animal himself. I think he's much more interested in cleaning up City Hall fiscally

There are other candidates who want to cut spending, but I think it's safe to his say that Ford's voter base is much more socially conservative than his rivals'. Anyway, I guess we'll see if he's elected whether he decides to go after the sex industry... I suspect it would not be his number one priority, but if something happens to bring the issue to people's attention, I would guess that he would be more interested in pandering to his voter base than remembering his crazy past (which he would most likely want to disassociate himself from anyway).

 

[masterchief]

It is right here:
"Ford told reporters outside his family's business that he does not have a criminal record. He has been charged four times in three separate incidents: Once when he was 18, after a hockey fight, once when in 2008 for assault against his wife Renata, and two charges in the Florida incident." in today's Sun.
So, it seems like his take on family values is in line with the rest of the politicians that take that line: do as I say, not as I do.

I hate wading into this but I have to.

So what’s wrong; Ford stated that he does not have a criminal record, and in that except is shows that he’s telling the truth. Those are all just charges, I have yet so see any mention of convictions”. You’re the kind of person who won’t wait for a trial to convict someone on the basis of being charged.

And another thing, how does this have any relevance on his take on family values? I don’t play the lottery but I have no problems supporting the OLG, is that wrong.

The problem is, that people like you get the politicians you deserve. You seem to think that a candidate cannot ever make a mistake? We all make mistakes and live lives of imperfection and yet we cling to the fantasy that there's this perfect life and that our leaders should embody it, but if we expect our leaders to live on some higher moral plane than the rest of us, well, we're just asking to be deceived.
In the end we should all just vote for the candidate that best embodies what we want for the future of our city

 

[Sammy the Bull]

LOL...the more mud they sling at the guy the higher his poll numbers go

 

[KBear]

LOL...the more mud they sling at the guy the higher his poll numbers go

There are many groups of people who have been benefiting from the free cash flowing from city hall, who will not be happy at all to see it end with Ford. The mudslinging will become fierce if Ford continues to lead the pack.

$50,000 to do a report on Mayor’s pay. Wtf, there are only a few cities in Canada to do a pay comparison on.
$150,000 per bed homeless shelters, plus well paid management and staffing. Build it and they will come.
Lucrative single source contracts for street cars.

I don’t know what people are talking about when they want the Toronto to be seen as a world class city, and think we are going in the right direction, when the downtown core where all the tourist busses unload is full of baggers and others sleeping on the streets. People in the downtown core are reluctant to talk to anyone when approached, as they expect they are going to be harassed for money.

Toronto needs to be cleaned up.

 

[Wallstreet]

Umm... based on your earlier post you expressed a distinct hatred against cyclists among other people:



So based on what you've said, you're not racist, or anti-muslim. You simply wish that all the poor people,who are forced to ride bikes because they can't afford cars or transit (and who must get into accidents to collect insurance because that is their only form of income) along with "green treehuggers" should be shipped out of Canada to Holland or the UK. Wow, dude. I originally thought you were just ignorant. Now I think you're a complete asshole.



Dude, I'm doing 35-40 kph riding a bike on a flat road, and 60+kph on a downhill... imagine what kind of carnage there would be if every cyclist rode on the sidewalks with people walking around at 5kph. There's a reason why it is ILLEGAL for a cyclist to ride on the sidewalk. As Landscaper mentioned, bicycles are considered motor vehicles under the highway safety act. Do you really want a cyclist doing 35k riding on the sidewalk? And, yes, a cop will give you a nice $150 fine if you are caught riding on the sidewalk.

And for the record. I'd vote for Rocco Rossi. I support his plan for bike lanes on non-arterial streets. And yeah, the Jarvis st. bike lane probably isn't the best idea, although the switching middle lane was never a great idea either. I can't count the number of times I've seen drivers driving down that lane in the wrong direction.

in all of my life i have only rode on the sidewalk, i have never in my life even been hassled about it by a cop. nor has anyone else that i have ever come across in my life. like i said. you cant use the excuse 'im too poor', this is canada. if you cant afford the ttc then either get a job or check yourself into 1450 O'Connor Drive Unit 33, Toronto, M4B 2T8 so you can afford a metro pass. if you want to ride a bike then use it on the sidewalk or go ride in a park away from cars. if you love biking so much then you should have no problem moving to a place like holland.

 

[Cassini]

Toronto needs to be cleaned up.

Toronto spends an unbelievable amount of money on small and special interests, and then complains about budget troubles.

In the 50's and 60's, Ontario municipalities had a vision for growth. Today, a vision for Toronto is "to let in more immigrants"???

Put a plan to look after the people you have, and then build a plan on how to grow. This is Canada, people need a place to live, transportation to get to work, and hydro, water and sewage systems that work. It is the city councils job to provide that infrastructure.

Toronto needs to pull its governance act together. Otherwise, it will be the next Nairobi.

 

[capncrunch]

I don't know what people are talking about when they want the Toronto to be seen as a world class city, and think we are going in the right direction, when the downtown core where all the tourist busses unload is full of baggers and others sleeping on the streets. People in the downtown core are reluctant to talk to anyone when approached, as they expect they are going to be harassed for money.

KBear, this isn't just a Toronto problem. It's a function of pretty much every major metropolitan city on the planet, with only a couple of exceptions (Singapore, for one).

Sure, it's not anything to be proud of, but it's extremely common.

 

[OddSox]

KBear, this isn't just a Toronto problem. It's a function of pretty much every major metropolitan city on the planet, with only a couple of exceptions (Singapore, for one).

Sure, it's not anything to be proud of, but it's extremely common.

Been to New York lately? I'm not sure what they do with the street people, but they aren't in Manhattan.

 

[diehard]

I'm voting for this man for sure.

Mayoral candidate Rob Ford has come clean with charges he faced in the past, including an incident where he failed to provide a breath sample in the United States while on vacation in 1999.

The councillor held a press conference just after 9 a.m. after a report in the Toronto Sun said he had been charged with marijuana possession in the past.

Ford was pulled over on vacation in Florida and was found with a joint in his back pocket on Valentine's day 11 years ago while on vacation with his then-fiance. He says he was also charged with failing to provide a breath sample and, through a lawyer, entered a guilty plea for that charge and had the former charged dropped. He says he was fined and ordered to do community service.
The mayoral canadidate reiterated that since then, he has been elected three times and has been dedicated to representing his constituents with integrity.

"I truly believe this election is not about mistakes I made eleven-and-a-half years ago," he says. "It's about today and tomorrow, and how our decisions today will help shape Toronto for the next ten years."
Ford also says he was charged in connection with an ice hockey fight when he was 18 and in connection with a domestic incident which has been dismissed.

 

[Never Compromised]

Maybe we should ask 'Liberal' Smitherman how he feels about our industry
I support Sarah on merit alone & because she's not a nut-case. THANKS!

I've met Sara and think she is a lovely woman. But her appointing Wendy Stewart as her campaign manager shows just how politically inexperienced she really is. She would be eaten alive in a matter of days.

Sara should find a nice ward to run in and get some city experience. Or get involved in the electoral process and learn how politics really works.

Sara was to green to even ask for support when she met me. And 10 month later, she has not improved enough to say she could run anything larger than a single gas station.

 

[Never Compromised]

Interesting that on an escort review board there's so much support for the candidate who's probably most likely to use whatever power he does have as mayor to try to stamp out the city's escort / MP industry.

Ford stamp out the industry? Not very likely my friend. Trust me on this.

 

[Never Compromised]

I am so sorry for referring to rob ford as a wife beater. Please let me set the record straight, as evidenced by the Toronto Sun:

"Wife beating, rage inducing, drunk, pot smoking dealer."

It is right here:
"Ford told reporters outside his family's business that he does not have a criminal record. He has been charged four times in three separate incidents: Once when he was 18, after a hockey fight, once when in 2008 for assault against his wife Renata, and two charges in the Florida incident." in today's Sun.

So, it seems like his take on family values is in line with the rest of the politicians that take that line: do as I say, not as I do.

Kiss my ass boys.

Not very bright are you? Being charged is not the same as being found guilty.

 

[Sammy the Bull]

There are many groups of people who have been benefiting from the free cash flowing from city hall, who will not be happy at all to see it end with Ford. The mudslinging will become fierce if Ford continues to lead the pack.

$50,000 to do a report on Mayor’s pay. Wtf, there are only a few cities in Canada to do a pay comparison on.
$150,000 per bed homeless shelters, plus well paid management and staffing. Build it and they will come.
Lucrative single source contracts for street cars.

I don’t know what people are talking about when they want the Toronto to be seen as a world class city, and think we are going in the right direction, when the downtown core where all the tourist busses unload is full of baggers and others sleeping on the streets. People in the downtown core are reluctant to talk to anyone when approached, as they expect they are going to be harassed for money.

Toronto needs to be cleaned up

Agreed on the cleaning up part.

Its amazing his political enemies managed to dig up an 11-year old DUI (out of Florida of all places).
Shows how desperate they are

 

[Shades]

I think any of the candidates are going to have a tough time keeping their budget promises...if I'm not mistaken, the Miller NDP coalition have already signed union contracts going out over the next 4 or 5 years with built in 4-5% annual pay increases. With so much of the cities revenue pre-committed to these contracts there is precious little room to manoever.
The mayor has to be able to work with people...Miller could do this, Lastman could do this well, in his North York and early Toronto days...not sure Ford can. While I like some of what he has to say, I don't think he has the diplomatic skills to make council work and to work effectively with the city workers.
All that said, this is the most dismal looking array of politicians to chose from that I have ever seen...and I've lived long enough to see alot!
I have no idea who I would vote for at this point but leaning towards Rossi as a "benign" place holder until maybe something better comes along in a future election....and this makes me very sad for Toronto.
My two cents.

 

[Sammy the Bull]

I still LOL @ this confrontation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EpSdyB0zY

Verbal assault??!! There is no such charge. If there was half of Toronto would be in jail.
That commie Star reporter took off pretty quick though

 

[landscaper]

It is one thing to get fucked by a politician, it is another thing entirely for you to hold your ass cheeks apart and spit on your own asshole for them. Because that is exactly what ford will do to toronto.

I'm done with this thread. I tried to quit before but the idiots kept coming like a tidal wave. They will keep coming, it is your nature.

Don't leave on our account

 

[landscaper]

As is most of the issues up for debate. Under the council structure the mayor is no more powerful than any other counsillor in office; he's one vote out of 44. This isn't New York City where the mayor actually has power, here he's just a policy making figurehead. The only reason Miller's policies got such momentum is because of the other trough-feeding idiots who keep getting voted in. You want real change, vote out Mosoce, McConnell, Perks, Vaughan and especialy Bussin and you'll see some real proper changes happen.

Until then the whole mayoral debate is abotu who wants to be the one infront of the camera, I mean the mayor doesnt even have the power to enforce his wishes on his own staff.

The point where the mayor does have a lot of power is in appointing the committes and committee chairs that actually put budgets together. That is where he can make a difference