Hillary lost the popular vote.

[Smallcock]

More nonsense. The popular vote actually determines which Electors are chosen. That makes their subsequent vote — after the rigging process of Winner Take All is applied — the byproduct of the general election. So every campaign is focussed on maximizing the vote, and every campaign tries to spread that vote across enough states with enough Electoral votes to win. Trump succeeded and won. Changes nothing. More people wanted her to be President than him.

Are you ever going to stop re-fighting the election, and actually deal with the reality that fewer people wanted Trump as President than the person who lost? That is what America and the rest of us have to deal with for the next four years. An undemocratically elected leader for the free world.
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The Irrelevant Record Nonsense: Beating Bush II's popular vote by 757 may be a big deal to Republicans, but it's hardly a record, barely a score (anyone who cares can see the numbers in the **Sophie** post 158 above, and do the easy arithmetic). But wait! aren't you the guy claiming popular votes are meaningless? I think that was your word. So either this 'record' is meaningless, or Hillary's vote is at least as important as invented plurality of Donny's. And I'm dying to hear just how you compare her million plus with his 757?

You might also remember that between BushII and Trump, the USA added ten of fifteen million new voters to the population, roughly half of them probably Republicans. So out of five to seven million new Republican voters since BushII, Donny picked up just 757?

Oh yeah, you asked if Hillary broke any records: Clearly she beat Trump's 'record' margin over Bush by more than a million. And that means she also beat Gore's total (In case you forgot, he also beat Bush. By a lot more than 757.)

Some record.
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Election's over, it's not your fault your guy won it by a rigged system; time to get back to improving the world and give up re-fighting dead issues so poorly.

They haven't finished counting votes. Trump has already broken the republican record and that margin could increase by several million.

Everything else you posted is typical balderdash. Fortunately, the US and its democratic elections, don't rely on your skewed view of reality.

 

[italianguy74]

What, you don't think Mexican American's should have the vote?
Very alt-right of you.

If they are a documented citizens they can and very importantly SHOULD vote . You're quoting me saying illegals I shouldn't even need to answer your question.
And calling me alt-right is violating my safe space, from now on I prefer to be identified as a majority.

 

[asterwald]

Your idea of "neutral" is a racist site like Breitbart. You think the media wasn't neutral because they reported honestly on Trump.

Wikileaks got lots of coverage. So did the FBI's intervention into the election--it dominated the news.

You just don't like that they also covered the truth about Trump as well.

No it didnt. They mentioned Russian hacking whenever they brought up wikileaks and that was it. Never did we get any news of what was actually in the emails. They were caught with their pants down trying to twist stories in order to make Trump look bad. What happened when the Women in the NYT article came out and refuted the way they were misquoted in order to paint Trump in a negative light; http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...mes-trump-women-rowanne-brewer-lane/84435570/

Wikileaks themselves have said the MES was trying to bury the leaks by not talking about them. You must be one of the people who thinks CNN did not leak Brazile the questions.

 

[Malibook]

If Fox had leaked debate questions to Trump, the mainstream media outcry would have been 100 times worse than it was for Clinton.
And how that lying bitch Donna Brazile got away with her bullshit is astounding.

 

[Frankfooter]

If they are a documented citizens they can and very importantly SHOULD vote . You're quoting me saying illegals I shouldn't even need to answer your question.
And calling me alt-right is violating my safe space, from now on I prefer to be identified as a majority.

You claimed that 3 million Mexicans voted that shouldn't have voted, yet as you noted they can only vote if the have documents.
That just leaves me assuming you don't think Mexican Americans should vote.

Too bad you're not a majority.
Here in this country you are are part of a small minority.

 

[oldjones]

You are ignoring the fact the media was coordinating with the Clinton campaign. Take out the media bashing Trump 24/7 and you will see the real picture in an media neutral race. The media wouldnt even cover the Wikileaks lol. They went bananas over the Trump tape and the Tax returns.

The media is not at all the topic, which is the popular vote. How either candidate got their share is called campaign tactics, and both had to deal with real world stuff like possible media bias. How much of your "media neutrality" was there beyond what's been called the 'mainstream'? Did any 'alt-right' sources like Breitbart play fair with Clinton?

When get past your over-broad and biased generalizations and make a factually supported statement about the conduct of some identifiable person, story or media outlets, there might be something interesting to discuss in a thread on the topic. But you've said nothing here.
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The tape's content hasn't been disputed. Trump's still keeping his taxes unpaid (because he's arguing the audit) and secret. Those are facts, the bananas are all in your imagination.

 

[oldjones]

Still counting those 3 million votes from mexico I see. She didn't win the popular vote amongst the legit American citizens. You guys are seriously kidding yourselves if you truly believe the illegals weren't voting their asses off in this election. The real numbers will come out after the big inauguration protest.

Who will they come from, pray tell?

 

[oldjones]

They haven't finished counting votes. Trump has already broken the republican record and that margin could increase by several million.

Everything else you posted is typical balderdash. Fortunately, the US and its democratic elections, don't rely on your skewed view of reality.

As I said, only in the GOP could anybody imagine one Republican beating another is a 'record'. But it probably helps them ignore that both of them were bested by their opponents; Gore and Clinton got more votes than BushII or Trump. And Trump's margin is entirely accounted for by mere population increase.

Whatever reality the US does rely on for them, its Presidential elections are inarguably undemocratic whenever they result in the candidate with the fewer votes being elected.

 

[fuji]

No it didnt. They mentioned Russian hacking whenever they brought up wikileaks and that was it. Never did we get any news of what was actually in the emails. They were caught with their pants down trying to twist stories in order to make Trump look bad. What happened when the Women in the NYT article came out and refuted the way they were misquoted in order to paint Trump in a negative light; http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...mes-trump-women-rowanne-brewer-lane/84435570/

Wikileaks themselves have said the MES was trying to bury the leaks by not talking about them. You must be one of the people who thinks CNN did not leak Brazile the questions.

I remember lots of articles about what was in the emails and will humiliate you with a number of links. Again, your idea of neutral is a racist white nationalist site like Breitbart

 

[oldjones]

It is like oldjones whining about his team losing the Stanley Cup finals 4 games to 3 when they outscored the other team 30 to 29 in popular goals.

Neither creative or related; More like the team that scored the most goals lost on a call the next day by the NHL Board. And they aren't saying why.

You and Smallcock really need to look up the meaning of 'popular vote' so you can stop parading your embarrassing ignorance of basic election concepts.

But I am curious, wothehell are these "popular goals" that you have invented for your private version of hockey? How do they work in your universe? 'Cause there's nothing similar in ours.

 

[italianguy74]

You claimed that 3 million Mexicans voted that shouldn't have voted, yet as you noted they can only vote if the have documents.
That just leaves me assuming you don't think Mexican Americans should vote.

Too bad you're not a majority.
Here in this country you are are part of a small minority.

The party I voted for won, im still a majority here. Im in the middle but labeled as a conservative alt-right because of my race. Because I love the fact a non politician has beaten a controling established insider. I WISH Donald Trump wasn't white, it would be so nice to pull the race card on Hillary supporters.

Or if Trump was a woman that would be sweet too. Women would be saying "Thats what this country needs! A woman to grab men by the balls" and men would be saying "thats hot". Donna Trump wins by record breaking landslide.

Btw If Americans were jumping our border to meddle with our elections id be singing the same tune, it has nothing to do with racism. Kinda glad Canada's immigration site went down on election night..America will send their worst people, the far left.

 

[oldjones]

60 million ordinary voters rejected him or voted for him?

That number speaks for itself.

Since it matters to you, some 62 million voters rejected him and preferred her. His significantly lower total indeed does speak for itself.

 

[oldjones]

It is surprising that the least popular candidate ever beat the second least popular candidate.
Both had record low approval rates.

Not really surprising; in the years since BushII, the US added millions more voters to the lists as their population grew. At least a thousand or so must surely have leaned Republican, And Small's only talking plurality of less than a thou.

 

[fuji]

Im in the middle but labeled as a conservative alt-right because of my race.

No, you are labeled a racist because of the racist things you post. No other reason.

 

[italianguy74]

No, you are labeled a racist because of the racist things you post. No other reason.

See how your interpretation of a conservative or white is a racist? You have a mental illness fuji.
I didn't mention being labeled a racist. And I certainly don't post anything that is considered racist to average people.....just you anti white sjw's who find even the procreation of white people an act of systematic racism..

 

[Frankfooter]

The party I voted for won, im still a majority here. Im in the middle but labeled as a conservative alt-right because of my race. Because I love the fact a non politician has beaten a controling established insider. I WISH Donald Trump wasn't white, it would be so nice to pull the race card on Hillary supporters.

Or if Trump was a woman that would be sweet too. Women would be saying "Thats what this country needs! A woman to grab men by the balls" and men would be saying "thats hot". Donna Trump wins by record breaking landslide.

Btw If Americans were jumping our border to meddle with our elections id be singing the same tune, it has nothing to do with racism. Kinda glad Canada's immigration site went down on election night..America will send their worst people, the far left.

You voted for Trudeau here or are you American?
Hard to tel from your post.

The alt right crowd seems to be coming from white supremacists, but not all racists are white. Just as there are sexist women as well.

By the way:

Btw If Americans were jumping our border to meddle with our elections id be singing the same tune

You mean the way Russians meddled with the US election through the hacked emails fed to wikileaks?

 

[italianguy74]

You mean the way Russians meddled with the US election through the hacked emails fed to wikileaks?

No thats totally irrelevant to voter fraud and immigration laws. Besides whoever hacked into Clintons emails is a hero and a savior. Regardless if it was Russia they just took a page out of the U.S handbook in foreign intervention. No country sticks their nose into other nations politics better than the u.s does.

 

[Frankfooter]

No thats totally irrelevant to voter fraud and immigration laws. Besides whoever hacked into Clintons emails is a hero and a savior. Regardless if it was Russia they just took a page out of the U.S handbook in foreign intervention. No country sticks their nose into other nations politics better than the u.s does.

So you think the Russian hacker Guccifer is a 'hero'?

 

[fuji]

No thats totally irrelevant to voter fraud and immigration laws. Besides whoever hacked into Clintons emails is a hero and a savior. Regardless if it was Russia they just took a page out of the U.S handbook in foreign intervention. No country sticks their nose into other nations politics better than the u.s does.

Praising hostile foreign espionage against the United States is treasonous.

 

[fuji]

See how your interpretation of a conservative or white is a racist? You have a mental illness fuji.
I didn't mention being labeled a racist. And I certainly don't post anything that is considered racist to average people.....just you anti white sjw's who find even the procreation of white people an act of systematic racism..

You would be more comfortable in your own skin if you just admitted to yourself and others what you are.