Some guy in burlington climbed atop a bridge and they had to bring him down. Once he got down, he was arrested
Stranded Woman Rescued From Crane Downtown
- Thread starter Kilgore Trout
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Thrill seekers have no time for cats as they're always on the go for the next thrill. But living the life style of a gypsy, I wouldn't be surprised if parasites crawl within this "Livin' la Vida Loca" .
In the jurisdiction of the GTA people that do mischief and cause job sites to come to a stand still do not pay the true cost of the event. In other jurisdictions there are "stupid" laws. If someone drives into a flooded road thinking it is a few inches when it is actually a few feet they have to pay the full cost of rescue and first responders.
There is the cost of the site shut down, first responders ( ambulance. police and fire dept. ) Police to deal with the traffic and gawkers. The security of the crane was compromised. It may need to be inspected before it goes back into use. ( additional site shut down time during inspection )
She will get a slap on the wrist and a relatively small fine. If she is American she will be flagged and returned to the US.
I am curious what a person with a * aomeba sized brain ( single cell ) thinks that this event has cost.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoeba
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Is it standard practice to leave the hook with that thing attached dangling in mid-air overnight?
Yes, but if the cable breaks for any reason and the thing falls when there happens to be a cat walking underneath.
Is that what she said?
It doesn't make sense that she would have to grab the cable if all she wanted to do was to take pictures from the end of the jib?
I can't see $100 per hour cost per man. Our union guys might cost $50 bucks an hour with all in. In any event, it sure would be a lot of money.
The fire captain who rescued her apparently invited her to the fire house for dinner. He was impressed at how she got up there.
I thought it was rather odd to invite someone like this, sort of rewarding her for her stupidity and recklessness. Wonder if that invitation would have gone out if it were a hairy old man up there instead.
I thought it was rather odd to invite someone like this, sort of rewarding her for her stupidity and recklessness. Wonder if that invitation would have gone out if it were a hairy old man up there instead.
Correct. The cable runs through the block she was sitting on and this would be a hazard to her and the fireguy. Rope, clothing and body parts can get dragged into it, which wouldn't be a good thing, all things considered.
If it had been an accident, where a construction worker was caught in this situation, then there would be no cost recovery. In cases of thrill seekers, there is a cost attached. This is to dissuade others from trying the same thing in the future. This is why they put this information out for the media to release.
To the best of my knowledge, the cables are not covered in grease. Grease attracts and holds dirt and that isn't good for the cables. Grease is also slippery and cable slip is something you want to avoid with heavy lifting. That isn't to say that some grease doesn't get on the cables, as every pulley has some grease on the bearing which can get on the cable.
Frayed cables are no good in cranes. This shows signs of wear and too much is a hazard. It would also cause binding in places, affecting the smooth operation of the crane. Theses are inspected for things such as that. Not to say that there was no fraying, but with what these cranes are doing, a cable breaking would have a disastrous outcome.
The likely scenario is she slid down the cable on her own and it was smooth, with no fraying. The amazing part would be going over the edge, without being tied off and getting hold of that cable. That took guts.
Again, costs are assessed, as are charges, to ward off future thrill seekers. She may skate the costs or have them drastically reduced, but she will pay a fine.
I do not believe there are any laws or regulations pertaining to this, but rather a practice that has evolved to recover costs from those who are not acting in a reasonable manner.
This practice of cost recovery is not just a Toronto thing, it is done for back country thrill seekers, who go off the beaten path. This is something that has been common practice for a number of years. If anyone has questioned this in the past, it is lost on me and if they had, the courts have upheld this practice.
As I've stated, it is to dissuade others from doing the same. The media is also asked to put this information out, in order to get the word out to all others who think things like this are a good idea. Rescue organizations in the mountains and cities, even though they are provided for by tax payers, are not there for thrill seekers, even though they have to deal with their stupidity at times. Thrill seekers don't file a plan when in back country outings. They stray into the areas that are off limits, for obvious reasons. In cities, they do things like this girl. These actions tie up the the rescue agencies and put their lives at risk needlessly. This and they get tied up dealing with the fallout from the thrill seekers actions. If a rescuer dies while saving people like this, the cost for the agency they belong to goes up, much higher than wheat they are assessed for the rescue itself.
To a layman like myself, I still think it is poor and dangerous practice to leave the hook and block hanging in mid-air overnight.
No they don't...
Someone else also mentioned it previously.
Gangbang perhaps?
According to the guy who rescued her, she was covered in grease.
If the cable is going to break, it's going to happen with significant load on it. Not with just the weight of the block dangling overnight. Besides, it's safer to leave it hanging than on the ground where someone could easily vandalize the cable.
When was the last time you heard of a crane cable breaking?
I think for the same reason you see generators and welders hanging from crane hooks over night at construction sites..
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Crane operator here.
Leaving the hook or block in the air is an acceptable and safe practice as it is not something that can be removed each day. However leaving a load such as a generator suspended attended is illegal but rarely enforced. Cranes actually have to leave tension in their rope which is achieved by the block or else it can cause improper spooling and potentially rollover on the drum if there is slack from letting the hook touch the ground.
In regards to the cable they are inspected or atleast are supposed to be each day by the operator, however it is steel and it will fatigue and break overtime allowing the wires to be exposed. Under CSA Standards the acceptable amount of breaks is 3 per strand, 6 per lay and 12 in the entirety. All rope will or atleast should have some type of lubrication on it to prevent corrosion as corrosion is one of the leading causes of failure for wire rope and it would be possible to slide down the rope without looking like you are covered in grease.
The crane operator could not lower the block as one cable goes down while the other goes up and she would likely get pinched in sheave (pulley). I watched the rescue and they way they did it was fine, fall protection and and rigging of the rescuers looked proper.
