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Stranded Woman Rescued From Crane Downtown

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But, that hook or block was suspended 12 stories high. That sounds pretty high.BTW: I am aware of at least one crane toppling over in NYC.
There are incidents involving cranes everyday but mainly due to operator error.

If it were to be any other type of crane then yes the standard practice is to lower the boom and block but with a tower crane (ones on a building) this is not an option and is a safe practice.
 

Ceiling Cat

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I think its fine she went up there and had an adventure, but its lame she did not get down herself. In this case she should have to foot the bill for her adventure... i.e the cost of rescue...maybe only the additional cost as all those guys were on the clock anyway....its probably less then $500.
On the clock or not, the deterrent is to hit them with the full bill.
 

mandrill

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How do you know that she could never pay it??
Hmmm, good point. If there are 20 workers at union rate of say $40.00 per hour and stoppage is 8 hours = only $6,400.00. That's payable.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Hmmm, good point. If there are 20 workers at union rate of say $40.00 per hour and stoppage is 8 hours = only $6,400.00. That's payable.
The cost of an ad on Terb. She could make it up quickly on here
 

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Still willing to bet that screening would show that she has toxoplasmosis. Mice loose their fear of cats, humans decide to shimmy down the cables of construction cranes.


They did a study in the U.K. some years ago which showed that most victims of fatal motorcycle collisions tested positive.
 

james t kirk

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Hmmm, good point. If there are 20 workers at union rate of say $40.00 per hour and stoppage is 8 hours = only $6,400.00. That's payable.
The LiUNA rate for trades can vary a bit. LiUNA being the largest construction union in Toronto at about 50,000 members strong. ("Feel the Power" (their stupid slogan, not mine)). But it's more than $40.00 / hour. $40 an hour would be their base salary (depending on agreement I grant you.). Add in $8.40 per hour for pension, 4 and change per hour for vacation pay, another 4 to 5 for benefits and so on and so forth and you're up to about $70 ish per hour. Then add in the cost of their gear, the cost of giving them a truck to get to the site, you name it, they are entitled to it, the cost for the company's overhead, profit, etc. Trust me, you're at $90 to $100.00 per hour easily. Depending on the site, it's usually a 10 hour day as well.
 

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The LiUNA rate for trades can vary a bit. LiUNA being the largest construction union in Toronto at about 50,000 members strong. ("Feel the Power" (their stupid slogan, not mine)). But it's more than $40.00 / hour. $40 an hour would be their base salary (depending on agreement I grant you.). Add in $8.40 per hour for pension, 4 and change per hour for vacation pay, another 4 to 5 for benefits and so on and so forth and you're up to about $70 ish per hour. Then add in the cost of their gear, the cost of giving them a truck to get to the site, you name it, they are entitled to it, the cost for the company's overhead, profit, etc. Trust me, you're at $90 to $100.00 per hour easily. Depending on the site, it's usually a 10 hour day as well.
They'd have to show that the crane was necessary to ALL work and that they couldn't reasonably have done any other tasks elsewhere on the site while waiting for fire to get her down.
 

james t kirk

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They'd have to show that the crane was necessary to ALL work and that they couldn't reasonably have done any other tasks elsewhere on the site while waiting for fire to get her down.
The entire site would have been completely shut down for the police investigation.

Probably the Ministry of Labour (wanting to know how she got up there in the first place.)

You name it.

They probably would have had to fully inspect the crane prior to putting it back into service to ensure that it was not tampered with or damaged in ANY way. Not even a piece of her clothing could be allowed to go unnoticed in the workings of that crane.
 

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The entire site would have been completely shut down for the police investigation.

Probably the Ministry of Labour (wanting to know how she got up there in the first place.)

You name it.

They probably would have had to fully inspect the crane prior to putting it back into service to ensure that it was not tampered with or damaged in ANY way. Not even a piece of her clothing could be allowed to go unnoticed in the workings of that crane.
You'd have to show that's her fault and not overzealousness on the part of the Minister.
 

rbadun

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Another Snowflake with no sense of reality.

Hope she pays through the nose for stopping work at the site.
 

Aardvark154

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So Fuji what does the Oriental woman kissing the fingers of her right hand and then her left thumb signify?
 

mandrill

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Still willing to bet that screening would show that she has toxoplasmosis. Mice loose their fear of cats, humans decide to shimmy down the cables of construction cranes.


They did a study in the U.K. some years ago which showed that most victims of fatal motorcycle collisions tested positive.
Wiki article disputes your claim that the disease leads to any psychiatric abnormality.
 

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Hmmm, good point. If there are 20 workers at union rate of say $40.00 per hour and stoppage is 8 hours = only $6,400.00. That's payable.
The LiUNA rate for trades can vary a bit. LiUNA being the largest construction union in Toronto at about 50,000 members strong. ("Feel the Power" (their stupid slogan, not mine)). But it's more than $40.00 / hour. $40 an hour would be their base salary (depending on agreement I grant you.). Add in $8.40 per hour for pension, 4 and change per hour for vacation pay, another 4 to 5 for benefits and so on and so forth and you're up to about $70 ish per hour. Then add in the cost of their gear, the cost of giving them a truck to get to the site, you name it, they are entitled to it, the cost for the company's overhead, profit, etc. Trust me, you're at $90 to $100.00 per hour easily. Depending on the site, it's usually a 10 hour day as well.
The cost to the company (which is called their "burden") for a member of LIUNA is about $75 an hour. They are mostly basic labourers. Skilled trades, such as electricians or crane operators make more than that, so the cost to the company is also higher. Management costs will vary. Without knowing which trades are on site, who is mobilizing for the day and who is there full time it is impossible to calculate the loss for the day.


You'd have to show that's her fault and not overzealousness on the part of the Minister.
You truly make me laugh sometimes.
I agree with James here. Everything is 100% her fault. The MOL, not the "Minister" will perform or have performed a complete and thorough investigation as should be expected. The last thing they want is an accident as a result of tampering with the equipment. Also they will be wanting to know why the site was not sufficiently secured to prevent access.

In 1988, someone entered the Scotia Tower's site overnight and parachuted from the 63rd floor to the parking lot across the street. Security was beefed up but if someone is determined, there is only so much you can do. A few years ago a university student was found on a site by security, he was wearing full construction gear, was just curious about construction sites. He had determined how to solve the punch codes on the doors and just walked right in! He was arrested for trespassing.


Occasionally in high winds, the tower crane is not locked in position as the strength of the wind may cause damage to the braking mechanism. This is why you will sometimes see cranes spinning on top of tall buildings like a weather vane. The luffing crane on the other hand can have its jib raised so that it is not at 90 degrees to the tower and less affected by the wind.

The cranes have a capacity of tens of thousands of pounds, so leaving a block in mid air which is standard practice is virtually nothing in comparison.

Her statement about wanting to take photos and then slipping seems a bit strange... you would have to step off of the crane assembly to grab the cable with both hands and you won't be taking many photos like that! As others have pointed out, regardless if there was a little or a lot of lubrication on the wire rope, the distance she travelled from the tip of the crane to the block is quite substantial. I don't know how she could have held on, slowing down the force her body weight with her hands should have given her rope burn and there also seems to be a regulator on the wire rope above her head, although she might have switched positions once she got to the block.
 

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What a crazy ass girl.

But like a lot of weirdos, somehow they are good as something. As for her, it's climbing like a pro. 99% of people would have fallen on their head scaling a crane in the middle of the night with heels.
 

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What a crazy ass girl.
As for her, it's climbing like a pro. 99% of people would have fallen on their head scaling a crane in the middle of the night with heels.
Maybe she has "Mohawk blood".
"Mohawks have been building skyscrapers for six generations. ... to keep them off,” said a Dominion official who said the Indians showed no fear of heights."

"They estimated her stunt cost them approximately $60,000 CAD."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marisa_Lazo
 
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