No, without the fat producing hormone, insulin, from eating carbs you won't store fat the same way.
I speak from experience.
Until you've tried it, I'm the expert here.
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I speak from experience.
Until you've tried it, I'm the expert here.
You're funny! Do you believe in Santa Claus too? LOL
https://www.thisisinsider.com/reaso...lly-arent-observing-the-keto-diet-correctly-3
oh, here's one more written surly by a novice as opposed to an expert but nevertheless
https://www.ketovale.com/calorie-deficit-to-lose-weight/
Your wrong.
Even Keto related articles will tell you that to lose weight your calorie intake needs to be lower than your calorie burn.
“Do you still need to be in a caloric deficit in order to lose weight? Or does keto have a different mechanism of action?
The short answer is that yes, even on keto you need to be in a caloric deficit to lose weight.
If you want to drop the excess body fat, you’ll need to force your body to use your own fat stores, and this is achieved through maintaining a deficit over a period of time (typically at least a few weeks or months, based on your goals and how aggressively you’re willing to diet).”
Wherever your getting your information is flawed and your misinformed.
You have no clue what you're talking about and you're taking statements out of context not understanding what they actually say.
There is nobody with a functioning brain that will say one of the basic laws of thermodynamics is not going to apply to someone that doesn't eat carbs.
Also that's not how insulin works at all.
I speak from experience.
And none of you have tried it, all you've got are diet pages from the web.
I've done keto and Intermittent fasting combined and worked great but I kept my calories under maintenance. I did it for a month straight to break through a stall in my progress which is a must as the body adapts to what you're currently doing.
If you take in more than you burn, no diet plan created by man/woman/they (always politically correct) will work.
Again, wrong.
Who said I didn't try it?
And you really assume I speak about this only after reading a web page? LOL
I have actual knowledge on this argument and I'm professionally involved in it, sorry that facts hurt your feelings, but this is science.
You lost weight not counting calories, just following your guidelines and believing that it's magic. You also think it's all based on the elimination of carbs because they are "bad" and it has nothing to do with calories.
That's your personal opinion and experience but it doesn't matter!
Multiple people have explained to you in different ways what is actually happening, you just don't want to listen.
Go watch that podcast I linked in the first page, listen to it and learn something. If you can argue those two speaking you definitely believe the earth is flat.
eureka! Makes sense indeed. If energy cannot be created or destroyed, the calories morphs back into its natural state, which is time. So if time is constant, we have voided back into space of fat
here's my part to science of good health
I am now intrigued by where this is going, sorry for my previous posts..
Keto, time travelling and parallel universes are the future of dieting!!
Keto, time travelling and parallel universes are the future of dieting!!
Your explanation and definition of insulin is extremely lacking. It is NOT solely a fat-producing hormone. Also, if you have a deficiency of insulin, or if its activity is compromsed, you are either in trouble or on your way to a slow and painful death.
Read up and learn about insulin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin
I don't believe you.
If you're involved in diet/health, then you probably work for jenny craig or some other crackpot as the sum total of your argument is based on one idea:
You have shown no understanding of human biology, diet, blood sugar or anything other then a $10/month gym membership trainer would tell you.
If you want to continue this discussion you need to understand the basics and get away from your old school, gym teacher ideas.
I don't really care or believe you if you've said you've tried it because if you have really tried and gotten as far as ketosis you would understand that the benefits include way more then just weight loss, but improved focus, energy and a more level blood sugar level throughout the day. I expect you tried it half assed for a few days and gave up when you got constipated or wanted some fries.
I also don't care if you don't believe me, I've been eating keto for over a year now and and won't turn back.
Read this letter, written and signed by 100 Canadian doctors and tell me you think they are full of shit.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/evely...-we-physicians-eat-you-should-too_a_23232610/
I never said its 'soley' a fat-producing hormone.
That's a straw man argument.
Eating carbs gives you elevated levels of insulin .
And again, losing weight eating keto happens because when you eat more good fats you feel satiated and don't eat as much.
I have no idea if I've been in caloric deficit or not, I don't count calories.
Its besides the point.
I started Keto last year on the advice of my cardiologist, only he suggested "ultra low carb". I had previously spoken to my endocrinologist about various "metabolic diets" and he told me to be cautious, but that he did not know alot about Ketogenic diet. So I decided to give it a try. Its an easy diet to enjoy because I like meat, fish and leafy greens. After 4 months my blood sugars came down, my need for insulin dropped and I lost 20% of my body weight. I had to buy new shirts and pants. Since starting Keto, I've done a lot of research and I communicate on line with several MD's in the US as well as nutritionists. Calories are not equal because of how the body uses the macros, the hormones that are needed etc. We all know that after you eat Chinese food, you get hungry again. The reason is that all the sugar in the sauces causes your insulin to spike, making you hungry. Lots of insulin makes fat get stored and sugar burned for fuel.
If you simply want to lose weight, cut out either fat or carbs, you can't have both. Exercise.
If you are diabetic like I am, having carbs is like eating poison. Drink plenty of water to protect your kidneys, keep an eye on your blood work, and go full Keto.
But it is important to remember that what might work for one person, may not work for another. If you simply wish to lose weight, you should experiment and decide for yourself.
If you are diabetic there is only Keto for the path to health.
If anyone needs any Keto advice or food ideas, send me a private message.
If you simply want to lose weight, cut out either fat or carbs, you can't have both. Exercise.
If you are diabetic like I am, having carbs is like eating poison. Drink plenty of water to protect your kidneys, keep an eye on your blood work, and go full Keto.
But it is important to remember that what might work for one person, may not work for another. If you simply wish to lose weight, you should experiment and decide for yourself.
If you are diabetic there is only Keto for the path to health.
If anyone needs any Keto advice or food ideas, send me a private message.
What is the source of your second quote, for my own interest?
Did you know that results of one latest scientific study suggests that eating pasta helps you to lose weight?
Second quote came from the globeandmail story I linked to earlier in this thread.
Sure, talk to you yesterday when you figure out the effects of increased insulin.
It sure as hell kept me regular. The only thing I miss about eating pasta is the regular punctual bowel movements!
To be honest, I have seen too many diet fads come and go. I have also tried them and they didn’t work.
https://www.thrillist.com/eat/natio...book&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=thrillist
Anything that stimulates ketones is not for me,I want to avoid oxidative stress, and Ketosis comes too close for my liking. When I lost 50 lbs in 5 months, I ate everything, but in smaller portions and counted calories. I also did a lot of cycling. And it stayed off for a couple of years. And, I was very healthy. The last time I tried a specific diet, it failed, and I damaged my kidneys. Slowly, they are healing, with me eating a balanced diet from all food groups. And, I am being supervised by a few specialists.
Do what works for you, but don’t condemn others for their weight loss/maintenance programs. One method is NOT for everybody.
I checked out your post, but its just a blogger rant and doesn't contain any useful real information.
I'm curious how you got kidney damage on keto, from what I've read that happens only with lack of water (you should drink more water on keto) or lack of vegetables. Making keto work means way less processed food, I hardly eat any.
Just lots of vegetables, good fats and a bit of protein.
The people I've talked to who are on it are like compromised in the last page, having success with it. What I like about this is it isn't a 'fad', it is based on science.
I put myself into ketosis in the first month and lost a pile of weight and felt better. Since then I haven't worried about being in ketosis and just don't feel good if I eat carbs.
And have felt the best I've felt in decades.
If it doesn't work for you, that's fine, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work for me and my views are invalid.
