“I’m an Incel, Ask Me Anything.”

[Tashki]

I was watching this video and I was thinking to myself when I was watching the Incel being presented in this video that I could have been the reflection of him if i wasn’t seeing sex workers.

Do you blame the incel for being an incel? Or was it society that made him an incel?

I can tell you from my experiences in meeting women that it doesn’t how much you like them or the high amount of romantic interest you have in a woman, the woman gets to pick to date within her own volition not me. I can’t make them date me, I can’t make them text me back.

There’s too many variables when it comes to dating that it’s very difficult to diagnose the problem when I face countless rejections. When Jordan Peterson said on the Joe Rogan Show “So you’re a young man and all of the women are rejecting you, who’s got the problem? It’s not all the women. That’s a bad road to go down to — if all the women are rejecting you, it’s you. (https://youtu.be/1h0gFe4Tdrs)” It got me upset because it’s equivalent to saying if I failed calculus, (Which is one of the hardest college courses to pass) then I’m the problem instead of looking at the boarder spectrum that calculus is generally a complicated subject. That’s how I look at it when it comes to women in the dating world.

“Maybe change your approach, Maybe change your attire, You’re coming off as too aggressive, You’re being too shy.” Too many maybes, too many variables, too hard to figure out.

Not every man can win the genetic lottery, We can’t choose our ethnicity and we for sure as hell don’t choose our women. The women choose us.

 

[canada-man]

 

[Grimnul]

I was watching this video and I was thinking to myself when I was watching the Incel being presented in this video that I could have been the reflection of him if i wasn’t seeing sex workers.

Do you blame the incel for being an incel? Or was it society that made him an incel?

I can tell you from my experiences in meeting women that it doesn’t how much you like them or the high amount of romantic interest you have in a woman, the woman gets to pick to date within her own volition not me. I can’t make them date me, I can’t make them text me back.

There’s too many variables when it comes to dating that it’s very difficult to diagnose the problem when I face countless rejections. When Jordan Peterson said on the Joe Rogan Show “So you’re a young man and all of the women are rejecting you, who’s got the problem? It’s not all the women. That’s a bad road to go down to — if all the women are rejecting you, it’s you. (https://youtu.be/1h0gFe4Tdrs)” It got me upset because it’s equivalent to saying if I failed calculus, (Which is one of the hardest college courses to pass) then I’m the problem instead of looking at the boarder spectrum that calculus is generally a complicated subject. That’s how I look at it when it comes to women in the dating world.

“Maybe change your approach, Maybe change your attire, You’re coming off as too aggressive, You’re being too shy.” Too many maybes, too many variables, too hard to figure out.

Not every man can win the genetic lottery, We can’t choose our ethnicity and we for sure as hell don’t choose our women. The women choose us.

Sorry to be harsh, but this mentality is exactly why you’re an incel. Jordan Peterson is exactly right. It’s not all women, it’s you. Your analogy makes my case for me. The implication is that you think that calculus is problematic because it’s difficult for some people. You’re turning an internal problem outwards. This is the incel mindset. I’m fine, nothing is wrong with me, I shouldn’t have to change. It’s the women who are the problem.

Now yes, in our society, typically women do the choosing. Guess what, though? The population of earth is split roughly 50/50 (if anything, there are slightly more women), so it’s not like there are a shortage of women out there. Surely you can find one out of the roughly 3.75 billion women out there who would be interested in you. If you can’t, well, that just reinforces my point. It isn’t them, it’s you. Being an incel is choosing cowardice and entitlement. It’s refusing to look inside yourself and realize that you have a problem and working to fix it. It’s choosing to brood and throw a tantrum and blame everyone else for your own shortcomings. It’s not that you “lost the genetic lottery”, it’s that instead of improving your personality and your status and working to be a respectable person who someone might want to spend their life with, you’ve chosen to get angry and blame women.

I understand the impulse. Introspection is hard. It requires you to silence your ego and admit that you’re not perfect and to work hard to fix yourself, but that’s the journey of life, isn’t it? To constantly improve yourself. Bottom line: stop blaming others and look inside yourself. Work hard to become a man worthy of being chosen. It’s what we all do.

 

[canada-man]

Sorry to be harsh, but this mentality is exactly why you’re an incel. Jordan Peterson is exactly right. It’s not all women, it’s you. Your analogy makes my case for me. The implication is that you think that calculus is problematic because it’s difficult for some people. You’re turning an internal problem outwards. This is the incel mindset. I’m fine, nothing is wrong with me, I shouldn’t have to change. It’s the women who are the problem.

Now yes, in our society, typically women do the choosing. Guess what, though? The population of earth is split roughly 50/50 (if anything, there are slightly more women), so it’s not like there are a shortage of women out there. Surely you can find one out of the roughly 3.75 billion women out there who would be interested in you. If you can’t, well, that just reinforces my point. It isn’t them, it’s you. Being an incel is choosing cowardice and entitlement. It’s refusing to look inside yourself and realize that you have a problem and working to fix it. It’s choosing to brood and throw a tantrum and blame everyone else for your own shortcomings. It’s not that you “lost the genetic lottery”, it’s that instead of improving your personality and your status and working to be a respectable person who someone might want to spend their life with, you’ve chosen to get angry and blame women.

I understand the impulse. Introspection is hard. It requires you to silence your ego and admit that you’re not perfect and to work hard to fix yourself, but that’s the journey of life, isn’t it? To constantly improve yourself. Bottom line: stop blaming others and look inside yourself. Work hard to become a man worthy of being chosen. It’s what we all do.

you also describe the mgtow whiners

 

[Tashki]

Thanks for sharing. Great video.

 

[wazup]

Are there female incels?

 

[itd131]

Sorry to be harsh, but this mentality is exactly why you’re an incel. Jordan Peterson is exactly right. It’s not all women, it’s you. Your analogy makes my case for me. The implication is that you think that calculus is problematic because it’s difficult for some people. You’re turning an internal problem outwards. This is the incel mindset. I’m fine, nothing is wrong with me, I shouldn’t have to change. It’s the women who are the problem.

Now yes, in our society, typically women do the choosing. Guess what, though? The population of earth is split roughly 50/50 (if anything, there are slightly more women), so it’s not like there are a shortage of women out there. Surely you can find one out of the roughly 3.75 billion women out there who would be interested in you. If you can’t, well, that just reinforces my point. It isn’t them, it’s you. Being an incel is choosing cowardice and entitlement. It’s refusing to look inside yourself and realize that you have a problem and working to fix it. It’s choosing to brood and throw a tantrum and blame everyone else for your own shortcomings. It’s not that you “lost the genetic lottery”, it’s that instead of improving your personality and your status and working to be a respectable person who someone might want to spend their life with, you’ve chosen to get angry and blame women.

I understand the impulse. Introspection is hard. It requires you to silence your ego and admit that you’re not perfect and to work hard to fix yourself, but that’s the journey of life, isn’t it? To constantly improve yourself. Bottom line: stop blaming others and look inside yourself. Work hard to become a man worthy of being chosen. It’s what we all do.

This ^^

I always wanted to play in the NHL. Just because Sidney Crosby skates better than me, shoots better than me, works harder than me, is stronger and faster than me - I mean why should I be denied a multi million dollar NHL contract? It's the NHL's fault, it's the media's fault, it's the fans' fault, it's my parents fault for giving me bad genes and not enough hockey lessons - I hate all of you for denying me the success I am entitled to! My grandpa always told me I was a great hockey player. Fuck you all!!!

 

[canada-man]

Are there female incels?

https://www.huckmag.com/art-and-culture/tech/meet-the-women-of-the-incel-movement/

 

[Smallcock]

you also describe the mgtow whiners

Your boy Darius is MGTOW.

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

To any incel You need an Ego death. Your Ego is toxic and it’s holding you back. Incel has cult like qualities. Somewhere the society has programmed you, seeded your brain with toxic misconceptions and has fucked you up in this downward spiral. (Psychology of cults https://youtu.be/Y73laz3etM8 )

As a start just hobby and see as any many women as possible. Start with the MPAs and work up to the SPs.

Some things that folks assume women want -- which aren't necessarily true -- are: good looks, security, social status, and loyalty. Society believes all four of these to be important -- and it definitely won't hurt any man to meet these criteria -- but lacking one or more isn't usually a deal breaker. Some men are missing all four, and still plenty popular with the ladies.


The more critical minimum requirements, however, are confidence, a sense of humor, being detached as well as "edgy" and providing great sex. Any man who exhibits these characteristics shouldn't spend much time without a woman in his life.

The above two are taken from this video ...

Stop resisting...it will all be in vain. Do you want to realize this on your death bed where you can’t go back to make the changes after you learned your lessons the hard way? Just go out and spend as much time with women as possible. If you can’t date them pay for them and join clubs and sports and other shit like volunteering where it will force you to spend time with them.

To the OP glad you found your way out through this industry. If only the government would understands this and how toxic is to have this industry illegal?

 

[Tashki]

This ^^

I always wanted to play in the NHL. Just because Sidney Crosby skates better than me, shoots better than me, works harder than me, is stronger and faster than me - I mean why should I be denied a multi million dollar NHL contract? It's the NHL's fault, it's the media's fault, it's the fans' fault, it's my parents fault for giving me bad genes and not enough hockey lessons - I hate all of you for denying me the success I am entitled to! My grandpa always told me I was a great hockey player. Fuck you all!!!

If this analogy equates to this discussion, should I really blame myself as a hockey player?

There’s only a small percentage of hockey players in the NHL out millions of aspiring hockey players. Even if I was excellent hockey player and didn’t make it into the NHL would I seriously consider myself a problem? Let’s assume that 0.1% of hockey players are in the NHL for the sake of argument, and I was in the 99.9% of hockey players that wasn’t in the NHL, but I trained a lot more hours and dedicated myself more than 90% of the hockey players who are not in the NHL. Should I really say that it’s entirely my fault despite only a few players out the entire world can enter the NHL?

80% of women want the top 20% of men in the male dominance hierarchy. You can encourage the entire male population to try harder and do better; Workout, Earn as much money as you can, increase your social value, They will STILL aim for the top 20%. There’s going to be some men at the bottom 80% that are going to end up with no girl because of this.

Women control most of the pieces in the game board. Females have a significant advantage over us in dating. I’m not going to entirely blame myself because I’m losing.

 

[canada-man]

Your boy Darius is MGTOW.

nope currently he is not mgtow. he used to do that crap and stopped

 

[Ceiling Cat]

“I’m an Incel, Ask Me Anything.”

Maybe you are sitting on the bank of the river and fishing with a curtain rod with a safety pin tied to the end. That is to say if you want to go fishing you have to have the right equipment. If you want women you have to have the right attitude. Very often it is the women who make the choice to approach you or not. You have to give them the opportunity to. I meet 2-3 women a month. It is in what you say to them that will get you to the next level. ( or not ) This February I have met 2 women. I was at a grocery store reaching for bananas when I heard a woman's voice saying Oh you grabbed my bananas. I said, I had to grab them you were about to grab my banana. We had a good laugh and a quick conversation. I scored another telephone number. You have to know how to play the game.

Are there female incels?

Waz, you scraping the bottom of the barrel again?

 

[Grimnul]

If this analogy equates to this discussion, should I really blame myself as a hockey player?

There’s only a small percentage of hockey players in the NHL out millions of aspiring hockey players. Even if I was excellent hockey player and didn’t make it into the NHL would I seriously consider myself a problem? Let’s assume that 0.1% of hockey players are in the NHL for the sake of argument, and I was in the 99.9% of hockey players that wasn’t in the NHL, but I trained a lot more hours and dedicated myself more than 90% of the hockey players who are not in the NHL. Should I really say that it’s entirely my fault despite only a few players out the entire world can enter the NHL?

80% of women want the top 20% of men in the male dominance hierarchy. You can encourage the entire male population to try harder and do better; Workout, Earn as much money as you can, increase your social value, They will STILL aim for the top 20%. There’s going to be some men at the bottom 80% that are going to end up with no girl because of this.

Women control most of the pieces in the game board. Females have a significant advantage over us in dating. I’m not going to entirely blame myself because I’m losing.

You need to let go of this “80% of women only want 20% of men” bullshit. Look, I’m a big, imposing guy, a lot of people find me intimidating, I’m an extreme introvert, I have social anxiety, and I have IBS. I very well could’ve gone down the incel path, but you know what? I’m also funny, educated, I cook very well, I make amazing cocktails, I dress well, I wear nice fragrances, and people like me. Everyone has a different toolbox and there are very, very few people who are truly hopeless with women. Everyone has a path. Maybe you’re not rich or good looking, but maybe you’re funny and can make people laugh. That’s your path. Learn to play to your strengths. Don’t worry about what other people are doing, it’s not a competition. This mindset that there’s a specific set of things all women are looking for and that you’re in competition with other men for a limited pool of women is unhealthy.

Understand, I’m being harsh because I want to help you. These incel communities, these MGTOW videos, they are not your friends. They are toxic enablers. They’re like the people you see on social media telling girls they’re queens, and fuck the haters, and you do you, girl! when they post pictures of them doing shitty, stupid things. You need to let that shit go. You need to look inside yourself and figure out why women don’t like you. You need to figure out what you have or do that you can use to your advantage.

I also want to point out again, there are about 3.75 billion women on the planet. There is literally someone out there for everyone, demographically speaking. I’d wager, however, that you’re only interested in the top 10%, appearance-wise. This is probably the real issue. It’s not that you can’t get a girlfriend, it’s that you won’t accept anything less than what you feel you’re entitled to. There are probably a bunch of average-looking women in your life that you know right now who would love to be with you and who are probably awesome people who would make you very happy, but you don’t pay attention to them because you think you deserve a mega-hottie. I see this mentality over and over again with incels. It’s the whole basis of this “Chad-Stacy” dynamic that they’re so obsessed with. Be a little more realistic in your expectations and learn to be less shallow and you may be surprised how well you’ll do.

 

[chodge]

Just go watch Shallow Hal .

 

[basketcase]

If this analogy equates to this discussion, should I really blame myself as a hockey player? ....

Yes. Or at least don't blame others. The big problem with the analogy is there are a few hundred NHL players but billions of women.

And yes, the women with ridiculously high expectations are not that different from incels (though I don't recall them killing anyone for it). You need to stop aiming for the top 20% yourself and (to go back to the hockey analogy) be happy playing in the beer leagues.

 

[Theredmilf]

This ^^

I always wanted to play in the NHL. Just because Sidney Crosby skates better than me, shoots better than me, works harder than me, is stronger and faster than me - I mean why should I be denied a multi million dollar NHL contract? It's the NHL's fault, it's the media's fault, it's the fans' fault, it's my parents fault for giving me bad genes and not enough hockey lessons - I hate all of you for denying me the success I am entitled to! My grandpa always told me I was a great hockey player. Fuck you all!!!

Perfect analogy. All people have liabilities, guess what life is hard! But if you were born in Canada, white & in the 21st Century, you already won the lottery and automatically get a headstart. People who focus on what they missed, lost or don’t have will always feel deprived. Focus on making the most of your gifts & blessings.

I think people need to review history. Sex was not ever readily available for most unless co-habituating & even then, manual labour & religious ideology placed barriers on all leisure. Today we think we all deserve to live like once only kings did. Let’s be more grateful!

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Perfect analogy. All people have liabilities, guess what life is hard! But if you were born in Canada, white & in the 21st Century, you already won the lottery and automatically get a headstart. Today we think we all deserve to live like once only kings did. Let’s be more grateful!

And thankfully God bless them. SPs make it possible. What a country!
Not joking.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Perfect analogy. All people have liabilities, guess what life is hard! But if you were born in Canada, white & in the 21st Century, you already won the lottery and automatically get a headstart. Today we think we all deserve to live like once only kings did. Let’s be more grateful!

And thankfully God bless them. SPs make it possible. What a country!
Not joking. Once you are on board with the fact that most women don't like you, with good reason, you are free.

 

[Grimnul]

Perfect analogy. All people have liabilities, guess what life is hard! But if you were born in Canada, white & in the 21st Century, you already won the lottery and automatically get a headstart. People who focus on what they missed, lost or don’t have will always feel deprived. Focus on making the most of your gifts & blessings.

I think people need to review history. Sex was not ever readily available for most unless co-habituating & even then, manual labour & religious ideology placed barriers on all leisure. Today we think we all deserve to live like once only kings did. Let’s be more grateful!

I mean, we already live better than many kings or emperors did. I have a toilet with a bidet and built-in air dryer. Did Julius Caesar have a magic chair that cleaned and dried his asshole? And think about the accessibility we have to all sorts of goods. Back in the day, even an emperor was bound by seasons. An emperor loves oranges but oranges aren’t in season? Tough luck. No oranges for his majesty. Me? I don’t even have to leave my home to get just about anything I want. I want a 5 pound wheel of cheese, a dozen ostrich eggs, a set of spoons made from deer antlers, a Swiss Army knife, 7 toothbrushes, 10 pounds of marzipan, and a blow up doll? Cool. Gimme 20 minutes on Amazon. Don’t even have to go get it, someone will bring it right to my door.

Make no mistake, ancient kings would envy the life of a middle-class working stiff in a modern first-world country. So yeah, we should be very grateful for what we have.