I believe that Doug abdicated his duty in 2020 and most of 21 to his "experts ". He did try to open up early, only to have the whole commentariat come fast and hard on him when the cases shot up. The biggest mistake he made was not executing his idea of the "iron ring of protection " around the ltc facilities and going along with the bulldozer tactics instead of concentrating resources on the people at risk.
How long do you think until they lockdown Ontario ?
- Thread starter steelcitysid
- Start date
He also closed waaay too late in December, then opened waaay too early in February and closed waaay too late in April, according to leaks from the people advising him who were entirely ignored for the sake of people in his base who get worked up about lockdowns.
I’ll agree with you that Ford probably kept Ontario closed longer than he should have in the Spring/Summer, but that was a complicated time for him. If you’ll recall, he seemed to be taking advice from a child named Arthur in June, and the science table was kept largely muzzled after the winter fiasco.
His government literally just announced restrictions for LTC residents this afternoon. There were calls in early December from LTC doctors and advocates to make the decision he seemed to begrudgingly make today.
Ford will take as much time as he possibly can to avoid making a decision that won’t benefit him politically. He’s a politician, not a leader.
You said they are going to the gym? Wanna bet they thought being double vaccinated is good enough?
How about them going out to the bar? House parties?
As you said its because of "exposures" , avoid the possibility and avoid the opportunity.
So has every other province run by every party. Every one of them can be slapped around in hindsight over some decision. He was making them for the largest. And we have better outcomes than some.
That’s what I was thinking too.
In their defence, the provincial guidance right now, which hasn’t changed in months, is that close contacts can continue business as usual unless they are part of the same household, they have symptoms, are not fully-vaccinated or are immunocompromosed.
In the case of the couple I saw, their exposure was at a holiday event that lasted all afternoon and evening on Christmas Day. So, since they’re not part of the household, according to the provincial guidance, they aren’t doing anything wrong.
Some health units are including MUCH more
sensible direction, where all close contacts are in isolation. But even then, the direction is unclear, depending on the person you speak to in your regional public health team.
For instance, adult friends in York Region are in isolation for 10 days because their kid was exposed at school, and adult friends with a similar exposure in Toronto aren’t.
Last edited:
Ask Trudeau, opps sorry the Liberals refuse to release any information regarding this issue.
Of course not, why would anyone listen to the doctors in regards to a pandemic? What a DUMMY Ford has been, he should have listened only to his base full of Amigos who know virology better than any medical professional. Yup, what a dumbass Ford was, too bad we didn't have his daughter in power with her steroid injecting hubby as Minister of Education instead.
Last edited:
Your.post is exactly why nothing beside the shutdowns was ever discussed. The stupid black or white attitude, the them vs. us constant bickering, the personal and the political attacks and the inability to look at anything else- in the time of the "pandemic ", the great and existential threat. Hence, that attitude propelled us to vax 5 year olds, close schools and insist on the face covering that do exactly nothing. Meanwhile, our healthcare system is still as shitty as before covid, our ltc facilities are still underfunded and mismanaged and the timings on boosters and vaccine brands are still made by the seat of the pants. And the scariest part is not covid, but the complete lack of courage for a single politician to say- enough! We are on the road that ends with the cliff.
If you stopped and looked at the deaths compared to the US and other countries you would actually realize Canada has done a phenomenal job. If of course, you let down your political biases and misinformation claptrap for just enough time to smell the roses and breath in a dose of reality.
There are a lot more than not ‘a single politician’ that have spoken out against lockdowns between all three levels of government.
If you’ll recall, there was a recent election in which every voting aged Canadian had the opportunity to elect politicians that ran on “enough is enough” as a key part of their platform. I believe, they didn’t win a single seat.
So, I’d argue that the ‘problem’ you describe is really a lot more on the 95% of Canadians for whom that message didn’t resonate.
Thank God for 95% of the population who have a bit more common sense than the 5% amigo population,
Perhaps his golf buddies, the ones that like to to drink can offer some advice…
As long as none of them are trained medical professionals who specialize in viruses. We can't have any of that kind of nonsense.
In this global pandemic, far too much is expected of our politicians to separate the healthcare mess from the economic slaughter when their first instinct is to pander to the lobby groups that will get or keep them in office .
Last edited:
Nice to see 10,000 can still go to Leaf and Raptor games while the province discusses shutting down schools.
They made cuts to healthcare and education yet building a new highway is still on the table.
Almost 14,000 new cases in Ontario today, and the hospitals are filling up. Unless there's a plateau and following decrease soon, major restrictions will have to be re-imposed.
If hospital capacity fills up, then lockdowns will be inevitable. Curious to hear what they say about schools this afternoon.
I think if Queen’s Park was going to close the schools, they would have indicated it already so as to mitigate incurring the wrath of the parents. The government is damned if they do and damned if they don’t in this political and healthcare tightrope dance full of lobby group dance and sparring partners.
I think Ford will kick the can down the road today by announcing back to school for now with the caveat that homeschool looms at anytime if the numbers threaten hospital care capacity ( he will not directly say ICU).
However, the Covid-19 injections will continue to grow to record amounts globally.
Last edited:
