Looks like the number of women requiring deposits is growing day by day

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Josephine Grey

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I didn’t realize it is from 2020. I thought it was a new thread when I posted a second time about the OP
I didn't say that about you. I thought it was the case in general when people where bickering about deposit or rates
 

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Even if deposits, verification, etc. became a standard then complaining won't solve much either. All industries evolve and escorting is no different. If it didn't evolve with the times it would not survive. I guess some guys think that things should not change. Rates should stay the same, shouldn't need deposits or verification, etc. On the other hand, if you recently started seeing SP's then you wouldn't know any better.
I agree. At the end of the day people are going to complain especially on forums such as this. Your right complaining won't solve much and the industry is going to trend in which ever direction it sees fit weather it be good or bad. As clients i think the only say we have is who we want to give our hard earned dollars too. If there are practices such as verification/deposit that gents don't agree with the best thing you can do is choose not to support those agencies/sp's with your money and rather support the ones that do align with practices you are comfortable with.
 
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And they will be horny enough if the entire industry went deposit and screening. Which would be evolving the industry. Just like the internet and tech did.
That's a really valid point. I think agencies and sp's both know that whatever they do and whatever industry standard they create men are still going to be horny enough to use their services regardless of how much they bicker and complain about it. Men only have themselves to blame sadly lol. Men can only control who they want to give their money too and the agencies/sps they want to support. They just need to think with their big head which seems very difficult for most to do lol.
 

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The point is, it doesn't have to....lol.
No - The point it is - it will regardless of having to or not. It always will evolve. It always has evolved. Look at internet and tech and how that changed the game. Look at how norms of cbj changed to bbbj with the influx of EEs back in the early 2000s.

It will change again and again over the years to come. You can’t stop it. And to say that the industry doesn’t, again is silly.

I don’t know why you want to deny or fight this but it is reality.
 

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No - The point it is - it will regardless of having to or not. It always will evolve. It always has evolved. Look at internet and tech and how that changed the game. Look at how norms of cbj changed to bbbj with the influx of EEs back in the early 2000s.

It will change again and again over the years to come. You can’t stop it. And to say that the industry doesn’t, again is silly.

I don’t know why you want to deny or fight this but it is reality.
This not unique in any way to escorting. Everything in this world evolves.

The only thing in this world that is constant, is change. You've heard this.

As such, this point that you think is so insightful, is meaningless.
 

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This not unique in any way to escorting. Everything in this world evolves.

The only thing in this world that is constant, is change. You've heard this.

As such, this point that you think is so insightful, is meaningless.
I never said it was unique. Quote where I said it was. Please. Give it a try and find it. Ah You can’t. 😂

Go back in the posts. Someone said evolve. I followed up and you and BBL want to tell me I’m wrong. I’m not. The industry evolves. It will always survive, I don’t and didn’t disagree with that but I’m not wrong that it evolves. And again, anyone who says it doesn’t, is being silly.

Why you two want to fight about this is beyond me. Are you guys having some PMS or something?

This industry will always survive but it will, like all industries, evolve as well. Is that better for you??? Like seriouslly LOL get off my dick. Go have a coffee or something. Go get laid. You’re hung up on shit that is not needed.
 

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No - The point it is - it will regardless of having to or not. It always will evolve. It always has evolved. Look at internet and tech and how that changed the game. Look at how norms of cbj changed to bbbj with the influx of EEs back in the early 2000s.

It will change again and again over the years to come. You can’t stop it. And to say that the industry doesn’t, again is silly.

I don’t know why you want to deny or fight this but it is reality.
Jesus your a head scratcher sometimes....

Yes the point is it doesn't have to. Has it evolved yes? Will it keep evolving? Probably...but if there was some law saying escorts are prohibited from the internet, they would all still be walking the street like in the 80's and so on and so forth. Get it???
 
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Jesus your a head scratcher sometimes....

Yes the point is it doesn't have to. Has it evolved yes? Will it keep evolving? Probably...but if there was some law saying escorts are prohibited from the internet, they would all still be walking the street like in the 80's and so on and so forth. Get it???
I already agreed it doesn’t have to. Where am I saying it doesn’t? I already said in the quote you quoted that it will survive. So what are you fighting me on? I have agreed with you. Right here in back and white for you.


This industry will always survive but it will, like all industries, evolve as well.
So Why can’t you admit that it will evolve regardless? That is has evolved and I would think for the better. Guys are bitching about deposit and screening and yet you want to go back to picking up street women??? Or go back to calling an ad in the back of a magazine to get a verbal description and take your chances???? Is that better for you???

Again - it will survive but it will ALSO evolve and HAS evolved. Meaning that evolution, regardless of need has and will continue to happen. Why is that so hard for you to admit?

I have agree with you but you can agree with me as well. It is not Survival right and evolution wrong. And it’s not evolution right and survival wrong. It’s not a right and wrong thing. You guys are making it a right and wrong thing by saying you are only right. And I am only wrong. That is not the case we are actually both right. Why is that so hard to accept? Answer me that. Why is it so hard for you to accept that the industry evolves? Regardless of need because no one said it needs to. Just that it does.
 

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I already agreed it doesn’t have to. Where am I saying it doesn’t? I already said in the quote you quoted that it will survive. So what are you fighting me on? I have agreed with you.

Why can’t you admit that it will evolve regardless? That is has evolved and I would think for the better. Guys are bitching about deposit and screening and yet you want to go back to picking up street women??? Or go back to calling an ad in the back of a magazine to get a verbal description and take your chances???? Is that better for you???

Again - it will survive but it will ALSO evolve and HAS evolved. Meaning that evolution, regardless of need has and will continue to happen. Why is that so hard for you to admit?

I have agree with you but you can agree with me as well. It is not Survival right and evolution wrong. And it’s not evolution right and survival wrong. It’s not a right and wrong thing. You guys are making it a right and wrong thing by saying you are only right. And I am only wrong. That is not the case we are actually both right. Why is that so hard to accept? Answer me that. Why is it so hard for you to accept that the industry evolves? Regardless of need because no one said it needs to. Just that it does.
Because BBL doesn't evolve babe. He still believes an hour is worth 220$, that the market is 250-350 and he still doesn't want to screen or give deposit. I am sure on some rare occasion he opens his browser and type backpage.com
 

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Because BBL doesn't evolve babe. He still believes an hour is worth 220$, that the market is 250-350 and he still doesn't want to screen or give deposit. I am sure on some rare occasion he opens his browser and type backpage.com
I would almost argue that the industry will always survive - yes but it will always evolve as well. I don’t think you can stop the industry and I don’t think you can stop it’s evolution. As we, a society, evolve, the industry, like all industries, will naturally evolve with it. You can’t stop either.

But some just want to fight. I don’t get it.
 

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I would almost argue that the industry will always survive - yes but it will always evolve as well. I don’t think you can stop the industry and I don’t think you can stop it’s evolution. As we, a society, evolve, the industry, like all industries, will naturally evolve with it. You can’t stop either.

But some just want to fight. I don’t get it.
Resistance to change...Maybe the girls they want ask for a deposit.
 
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Personally, I pay the deposits, and give screening info.

However, I do wonder what even the pro-deposit people will think when providers start asking for the full amount to be transferred beforehand. Already there are some who ask for a deposit of 50%.

From a pure safety standpoint, it might be a good idea. After all, a provider can't be robbed if she doesn't have the cash with her. And it certainly would eliminate all financial risk of no-shows.
 

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Meanwhile, 100's of deposit are sent everyday and 100's of guys are getting laid without sending anything. I wish people would just move on and stop fighting things they can't fight.
Agreed that many including myself do not send deposits to agencies or independents.
Being courteous goes miles in this business. If I cancel, it is with 2-3 hours notice.
Never a no show or 5 minute prior to appointment cancellations.
 

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Personally, I pay the deposits, and give screening info.

However, I do wonder what even the pro-deposit people will think when providers start asking for the full amount to be transferred beforehand. Already there are some who ask for a deposit of 50%.

From a pure safety standpoint, it might be a good idea. After all, a provider can't be robbed if she doesn't have the cash with her. And it certainly would eliminate all financial risk of no-shows.
No shows and last minute cancellation is the problem.. Loss of revenue
Doctors, dentists etc require 24 hours cancellation notice. Why should this business be exempt ?
 

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Agreed that many including myself do not send deposits to agencies or independents.
Being courteous goes miles in this business. If I cancel, it is with 2-3 hours notice.
Never a no show or 5 minute prior to appointment cancellations.
You do realize that for some, that is not enough time to reschedule something right?

I am not trying to come down on you/others but just so you/others know - I know it seems like a lot of time but for some, it is not. For a busy agency girl, sure no problem. For an Indy, maybe not.

Just so people know. You may think your doing a good thing but in reality, it’s not.
 

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You do realize that for some, that is not enough time to reschedule something right?

I am not trying to come down on you/others but just so you/others know - I know it seems like a lot of time but for some, it is not. For a busy agency girl, sure no problem. For an Indy, maybe not.

Just so people know. You may think your doing a good thing but in reality, it’s not.
For those who do not cancel with sufficient notice, they deserve to pay a deposit.
Maybe cash flow is not an issue for you due to income from your other flourishing business.
If you feel that I am not doing the good thing, why all this noise about deposits for the past two years ?
I do what's right, what's ethical and not based on public opinion. Thanks for your opinion.
 
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