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boobtoucher

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If that were true then we wouldn't have poor people or homeless.
This is a thing people miss. American Christianity is founded in Puritanism. Being poor is a moral failing and all that.

The teachings of Jesus are left of Marx, but Christianity has corrupted it into a tool of oppression.

Current American Christianity is largely a grift. Prosperity gospel bullshit spits on the teachings of Jesus, and serves only to enrich pastors.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Disagree.
Trudeau is responsible for all of the Liberal policies.
He is the boss and it's on him to oversee all of his ministers.
He stood up in parliament and defended whatever cracker jack ideas his ministers came up with.

Put it to you this way. The top dog takes all the responsibility for people underneath him.
Just like the police chief takes all the shit when officers fuck up.
Have you ever seen a serious industrial accident where the company bosses don't get dragged in front of the courts?
I believe his stepping down is accountability being forced on him.
I don't think that criticism should be transferred to Carney.
 
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boobtoucher

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Western civilization is based on Judeo-Christian values...End stop.
Are you actually Jordan Peterson?

Where does western civilization start? With the Greeks? 'cause they weren't Christian.

With the Romans? 'cause they weren't either.

Remind me again, what numeric system is all of our science and finance based on?

And let's harken back to the founding of the USA. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Or do you want to discuss Martin Luther?

How do you account for Medieval Europe, when various Kings controlled religious doctrine? I mean, Church of England exists so that Henry Eight could fuck more. And let's be real, the US and Canada both sprung from that tradition.

I see now where the handle comes from. You are truly just making shit up and trying to make it sound special.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Are you actually Jordan Peterson?

Where does western civilization start? With the Greeks? 'cause they weren't Christian.

With the Romans? 'cause they weren't either.

Remind me again, what numeric system is all of our science and finance based on?

And let's harken back to the founding of the USA. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Or do you want to discuss Martin Luther?

How do you account for Medieval Europe, when various Kings controlled religious doctrine? I mean, Church of England exists so that Henry Eight could fuck more. And let's be real, the US and Canada both sprung from that tradition.

I see now where the handle comes from. You are truly just making shit up and trying to make it sound special.
Nobody on the right here has been able to articulate what Judeo-Christian values are.
Or what "extreme left" really means.
They bob and weave but never answer questions directly.
 
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mandrill

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Western civilization is based on Judeo-Christian values...End stop.
Nah.

It's based on Voltaire and the Enlightenment. That replaced "Judeo-Christian values" in the late 1700's. "Judeo-Christian values" were the values that had folks torturing and burning women for "being witches". That shit ended right when Voltaire happened.
 
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Valcazar

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This is a thing people miss. American Christianity is founded in Puritanism. Being poor is a moral failing and all that.

The teachings of Jesus are left of Marx, but Christianity has corrupted it into a tool of oppression.

Current American Christianity is largely a grift. Prosperity gospel bullshit spits on the teachings of Jesus, and serves only to enrich pastors.
There is more than one American Christianity.
You should probably narrow this down.
 

boobtoucher

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There is more than one American Christianity.
You should probably narrow this down.
Yes and no.

American Christianity is its own thing. Other, more traditional denominations are not American Christianity. I.E. Roman Catholics in America are not American Christians even through they are American and Christian.

 
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boobtoucher

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Why not?
The liberals like to blame Harper for everything.
Mulroney created the structural shifts that have resulted in the problems that we are facing today.

Harper did a lot of damage as PM, but mostly to the government itself. He's done more damage globally with the IDU than he did as PM.

There, is that better? Chretien balanced the budget and punched a guy. Hard to be critical of that.
 

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The problem is that PeePee has shown he isn't up to the task. In the 3 or 4 years since he was made leader, Pee has come up with no policy proposals and has simply launched personal attacks and slogans.

Worse still, he sucks Trump's dick and literally ran errands for the neo Nazi convoy thugs who terrorized Ottawa.

If the Tories still had a smart guy with some integrity at the helm like Erin O' Toole, I would probably vote for them. But they ditched EOT - who was smarter and more based than JT - and elected probably the only asshole in the CPC who was an even bigger dumbass, shithead and loser than Scheer.

On a good day, Pee dreams of being worthy to wipe the shit from Carney's ass and flush it away.
Well, Poilievre did gave the proposals to current issues, whether to believe him or not , upto individuals. Liberals are doing what he was saying.
 

Valcazar

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Yes and no.

American Christianity is its own thing. Other, more traditional denominations are not American Christianity. I.E. Roman Catholics in America are not American Christians even through they are American and Christian.

I disagree with this analysis. It seems to be making calling White Evangelism "American Christianity" and I don't think that's really valid.
 

mandrill

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I disagree with this analysis. It seems to be making calling White Evangelism "American Christianity" and I don't think that's really valid.
Christianity in America must have been analyzed, espec in its relationship to public life and events. I am continually shocked at how religious the US when compared to Canada or the UK.
 

The Oracle

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Nobody on the right here has been able to articulate what Judeo-Christian values are.
Or what "extreme left" really means.
They bob and weave but never answer questions directly.

Nearly all but 3 or 4 American presidents past and
present were/are Christians. Abraham Lincoln was one
of those few non-Christian presidents (technically). But
even Lincoln the non-Chrisitian would attend services
of the Presbyterian (or Baptist?) church like a Christian.

Without knowing what Judeo-Christian values are it
seems fair to say the U.S. is a nation rooted in the
Christian faith nonetheless. Very unlikely you will see a
non-Christian elected president in the coming decades.
 

The Oracle

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Are you actually Jordan Peterson?

Where does western civilization start? With the Greeks? 'cause they weren't Christian.

With the Romans? 'cause they weren't either.

Remind me again, what numeric system is all of our science and finance based on?

And let's harken back to the founding of the USA. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Or do you want to discuss Martin Luther?

How do you account for Medieval Europe, when various Kings controlled religious doctrine? I mean, Church of England exists so that Henry Eight could fuck more. And let's be real, the US and Canada both sprung from that tradition.

I see now where the handle comes from. You are truly just making shit up and trying to make it sound special.
Sounds like you need to Fix your Posture, lol.
 

bazokajoe

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Mulroney created the structural shifts that have resulted in the problems that we are facing today.

Harper did a lot of damage as PM, but mostly to the government itself. He's done more damage globally with the IDU than he did as PM.

There, is that better? Chretien balanced the budget and punched a guy. Hard to be critical of that.
Typical liberal deflection.
Trudeau has done more damage to Canada than any other PM. That's undeniable.
 

richaceg

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I will save this post to gather rightie tears if my dream comes to be true. Thank you Juan. my mug is ready.

You haven't even recovered from the Trump landslide victory...felon POTUS says hi...
 

shack

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Christianity in America must have been analyzed, espec in its relationship to public life and events. I am continually shocked at how religious the US when compared to Canada or the UK.
The founders of the US ran away from religious persecution in England. Now they are worse than what they ran away from.

What ever happened to the separation of church and state?
 
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