Report: Five members of Canada’s 2018 WJC team told to surrender to London Police

[Fun For All]

The only thing I see is about a slap on the ass, is that it?

the slap that Dubé called players and told them not to say anything about it…which should deliver a slam dunk guilty verdict if if comes in evidence

Howden briefly breaks down crying during testimony in London hockey case

Vegas Golden Knights forward Brett Howden broke down crying while testifying Thursday about text messages he sent to a former Team Canada teammate in June 2018 when they learned Hockey Canada was investigating an alleged sexual assault that took place a week earlier following a golf and gala...

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[mellowjello]

Howden briefly breaks down crying during testimony in London hockey case

Vegas Golden Knights forward Brett Howden broke down crying while testifying Thursday about text messages he sent to a former Team Canada teammate in June 2018 when they learned Hockey Canada was investigating an alleged sexual assault that took place a week earlier following a golf and gala...

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And what's the issue?
Seriously.

 

[Fun For All]

And what's the issue?
Seriously.

No issue…everything is awesome…

 

[Fun For All]

I don’t care what anybody here or even what the courts say…I think they did it and I think they’re guilty…the cover ups with phone cameras, group chat and phone calls show they know what they did was wrong…Hockey Canada paying the the victim 3.5 million shows they know it too…now players are not testifying with integrity with their “sudden memory loss”…now all the evidence from Hockey Canada’s investigation might get thrown out because of how terrible they were in obtaining it.

These clowns have gotten every break…how can they now get off.

 

[mellowjello]

No issue…everything is awesome…

Is that all you have to say now?
Slapping ass will prove they're guilty? Guilty of what?
Slapping ass, not non consensual sex or forcing her to be there.
You actually think that's more significant than Howden testifying that she initiated it, basically taunting guys to do shit to her, BEGGING them,
bringing a guy into the washroom to fuck who she later accused of assault?
Have you never been involved in group activity, an orgy or gangbang? You think slapping ass is a big deal?
Do you have any idea what these chicks are like, you think ass slapping is an issue?
You actually sound like a chick, grasping at anything no matter how insignificant just to prove women are always victims.
The more i read, the more she looks like a tramp.

 

[mellowjello]

I don’t care what anybody here or even what the courts say…I think they did it and I think they’re guilty…the cover ups with phone cameras, group chat and phone calls show they know what they did was wrong…Hockey Canada paying the the victim 3.5 million shows they know it too…now players are not testifying with integrity with their “sudden memory loss”…now all the evidence from Hockey Canada’s investigation might get thrown out because of how terrible they were in obtaining it.

These clowns have gotten every break…how can they now get off.

That explains it all.
You don't care what the truth MIGHT be, you think you know it all.
You sound like you got a chip on your shoulder about something related, because you don't make any sense.

 

[JimmyG]

If they can get a player to testify at this trial that at some point she was crying and wanted to leave but wasn't allowed then that would turn things. I don't think that is going to happen though.

They basically already have a player that testified to this !

Howden testified Tuesday that he didn’t see E.M. putting her clothes back on at any point in McLeod’s hotel room. In 2018, however, he told Hockey Canada investigator Danielle Robitaille that E.M. started to get dressed and say, “I’m way too sober for this,” Cunningham said.

Cunningham also said that while Howden testified on Tuesday that he didn’t hear anyone talk to E.M. when she was getting dressed, he told Robitaille in 2018 that he heard his teammates say, “Oh no baby, don’t leave.”

Cunningham said that in his 2018 interview with Robitaille, Howden said, “I just heard her kind of weeping. I didn’t know what was going on. I went to my room because I didn’t want to be part of anything.”

Maybe they did'nt physically block her from leaving but they did convince her to stay. And this goes along with her testimony that she felt intimidated not to leave.

 

[JimmyG]

Also in steenbergens testimony he said that when he got to the room , McLeod had to leave for a bit but asked him to stay in the room with her. It sounds like he didn't want to leave her alone. Why would he ask that ?
Did he think that if she was on her own for any period of time that she'd decide to leave ?

 

[JimmyG]

These are only the first 2 witnesses and their original statements are already making the defense look guilty.

Slapping her ass so hard it must've hurt so bad
She starts getting dressed , teammates saying No baby don't go
I heard her weeping

This coming from the defendants teammates, when they just won a gold medal, playing and working together as a TEAM ! Trained together to play as a team and look out for each other's backs !

 

[The Oracle]

They basically already have a player that testified to this !

No they didn't and that's the point.

 

[onomatopoeia]

Did she refuse in any way?
Did they force her to stay?
Did she give consent?
Why did she agree to some blood and urine tests but declined an offer of a urine toxicology exam? The roofie drug is detectable up to 5 days, she went to the
hospital 3 days after the alleged incident?

Q: Why did E.M. wait three days before going to the hospital?
A: Because she didn't report the incident to police. Her mother's boyfriend complained on her behalf.

Q: Why didn't London police file charges in 2018?
A: Among other things, video of E.M. leaving the hotel, (see post #311), led detective Steve Newton to conclude that she was not sufficiently intoxicated that she would have been unable to consent. Newton did not believe that there was sufficient evidence to file charges. Since there was video evidence that consent was given, (in E. M.'s own words), the Crown would have needed to prove that E.M. was incapable of offering consent, and there is only her unsupported testimony to make that argument.

Q: Why was the case reopened years later?
A: Because there was a big stink on social media after reports about the out-of-court settlement were published.

Q: Why is Fun For All convinced that the players are guilty of sexual assault?
A: Because he has a daughter of about the same age, and he is projecting both her and himself into the scenario, and drawing conclusions from his emotional reaction to that hypothetical.

 

[Fun For All]

Q: Why did E.M. wait three days before going to the hospital?
A: Because she didn't report the incident to police. Her mother's boyfriend complained on her behalf.

Q: Why didn't London police file charges in 2018?
A: Among other things, video of E.M. leaving the hotel, (see post #311), led detective Steve Newton to conclude that she was not sufficiently intoxicated that she would have been unable to consent. Newton did not believe that there was sufficient evidence to file charges. Since there was video evidence that consent was given, (in E. M.'s own words), the Crown would have needed to prove that E.M. was incapable of offering consent, and there is only her unsupported testimony to make that argument.

Q: Why was the case reopened years later?
A: Because there was a big stink on social media after reports about the out-of-court settlement were published.

Q: Why is Fun For All convinced that the players are guilty of sexual assault?
A: Because he has a daughter of about the same age, and he is projecting both her and himself into the scenario, and drawing conclusions from his emotional reaction to that hypothetical.

Congratulations…you continue your streak of being wrong every time you comment

 

[Fun For All]

Is that all you have to say now?
Slapping ass will prove they're guilty? Guilty of what?
Slapping ass, not non consensual sex or forcing her to be there.
You actually think that's more significant than Howden testifying that she initiated it, basically taunting guys to do shit to her, BEGGING them,
bringing a guy into the washroom to fuck who she later accused of assault?
Have you never been involved in group activity, an orgy or gangbang? You think slapping ass is a big deal?
Do you have any idea what these chicks are like, you think ass slapping is an issue?
You actually sound like a chick, grasping at anything no matter how insignificant just to prove women are always victims.
The more i read, the more she looks like a tramp.

Well that’s it, Brett Howden saying she was begging it must be true,, with the exception of 18 other times he wouldn’t lie

 

[Fun For All]

The Law of Consent in Sexual Assault - LEAF

Canada has a broad definition of sexual assault. It includes all unwanted sexual activity, such as unwanted sexual grabbing, kissing, and fondling as well as rape. Sexual activity is only legal when both parties consent. Consent is defined in Canada’s Criminal Code in s. 273.1(1), as the...

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[mellowjello]

Well that’s it, Brett Howden saying she was begging it must be true,, with the exception of 18 other times he wouldn’t lie

You're right, and she falsely accused one of the players of following and assaulting her in the washroom, she probably lied about everything else.
BTW, Howden's original assertion about her initiating the activity came from a text to his friends, it wasn't a statement to the police.
But you want to make it about ass slapping.
Also refer to Post #432.
You still haven't addressed your double standard.

 

[Fun For All]

I know some of you are hanging on Brett Howden's 'begging' comment and even if she did say "Come over and fuck me" that doesn't mean the door is open for everybody to do anything they want

The Law of Consent in Sexual Assault - LEAF

Canada has a broad definition of sexual assault. It includes all unwanted sexual activity, such as unwanted sexual grabbing, kissing, and fondling as well as rape. Sexual activity is only legal when both parties consent. Consent is defined in Canada’s Criminal Code in s. 273.1(1), as the...

www.leaf.ca

 

[Fun For All]

You're right, and she falsely accused one of the players of following and assaulting her in the washroom, she probably lied about everything else.
BTW, Howden's original assertion about her initiating the activity came from a text to his friends, it wasn't a statement to the police.
But you want to make it about ass slapping.
Also refer to Post #432.
You still haven't addressed your double standard.

Wrong...he said that in an uncoverered text during the Hockey Canada investigation.

One report has Formenton outside asking the players if it was ok...another report had her dragging him in.

Wow...and how about your double standard?

 

[Fun For All]

You're right, and she falsely accused one of the players of following and assaulting her in the washroom, she probably lied about everything else.
BTW, Howden's original assertion about her initiating the activity came from a text to his friends, it wasn't a statement to the police.
But you want to make it about ass slapping.
Also refer to Post #432.
You still haven't addressed your double standard.

The charge of sexual assault for Dube is for the ass slapping and a blow job...it may not reach your bar but it reaches the Criminal Code bar...unless it comes out where she said "slap me in the ass" that should be an easy guilty verdict for Dube.

 

[Fun For All]

Was Cal Foote given permission or consent to do the splits over her face and rub his dick and bag in her face or did he just come in and do it on his own? I believe the evidence shows that he just walked in and did it...that should be an easy guilty verdict for Foote.

Even if she did say "Come over and fuck me" that doesn't mean the door is open for everybody to do anything they want

 

[mellowjello]

The charge of sexual assault for Dube is for the ass slapping and a blow job...it may not reach your bar but it reaches the Criminal Code bar...unless it comes out where she said "slap me in the ass" that should be an easy guilty verdict for Dube.

Yeah, and it better be on an email witnessed by an agent of the court. You're definitely a chick with a chip on her shoulder.