RCMP wasting taxpayers money investigating so-called Israeli war crimes

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The RCMP confirmed to The Jerusalem Report that it had launched a “structural investigation” into the Israel-Hamas conflict in early 2024 as part of its mandate to investigate war crimes.

On June 2, The Toronto Star broke a story about the Canadian federal police service, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), investigating alleged war crimes during the Gaza war. The news set off alarm bells in Canada’s Jewish community, with the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA), the Jewish community’s political arm, releasing the following statement: “Any suggestion that Israeli Canadians should be targeted for their service – particularly in a war of self-defence waged by a close ally of Canada – not only represents a cynical distortion of the law but fuels the violent hatred faced by Israelis and Jews in North America.”

The declaration did not come in a vacuum. It emerged as Canada attempts to multilaterally condemn Israel. On May 19, 2025, Canada joined Britain and France in demanding that Israel halt the war in Gaza and calling the humanitarian situation “wholly inadequate,” which resulted in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying that Canada was “on the wrong side of history.” On June 10, after the revelation of the RCMP investigation, Canada joined numerous other Anglo and European countries in sanctioning ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich.

According to a source with knowledge of internal decision-making, Canada’s RCMP has been pushed since 2024 to open a war crimes probe into Hamas and Palestinians in the Gaza war. This has since expanded to include Israeli Canadians.

Sounds like a wild goose chase to me, seems the RCMP does not understand the meaning of minding your own business, go catch some car thieves FFS.
 

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What is your objection to the RCMP investigating war crimes?
Isn't that part of the RCMP mandate?
My objection is that if an Israeli-Cnadian soldier committed a specific war crime 8000km away how the hell would the RCMP know about it? They don't have the resources to probe such incidents, so they're just wasting time and money.

Moreover, if if the soldiers were just following orders, and RMCP lay charges on them for war crimes just because Mark Carney's Canadastan believes IDF is committing so-called genocide as whole, it seems unfair that they have to hire lawyers to defend themselves for servicing the country. The whole thing is just a farce.
 
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Sounds like a wild goose chase to me, seems the RCMP does not understand the meaning of minding your own business, go catch some car thieves FFS.
Minding your own business? Like not getting involved in a conflict 8,000 km away? Interesting.
 

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Valcazar

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My objection is that if an Israeli-Cnadian soldier committed a specific war crime 8000km away how the hell would the RCMP know about it? They don't have the resources to probe such incidents, so they're just wasting time and money.
Yes they do.
They've been doing it for years.

Moreover, if if the soldiers were just following orders, and RMCP lay charges on them for war crimes just because Mark Carney's Canadastan believes IDF is committing so-called genocide as whole, it seems unfair that they have to hire lawyers to defend themselves for servicing the country. The whole thing is just a farce.
Why would the IDF get special treatment when other groups get investigated normally?
 

mandrill

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They've had an international crime mandate for years, though.


The War Crimes act is domestic law and has been for over 20 years.
I think the RCMP was involved in the Nazi criminal hunting before that.

So none of this is new, really.
I know. OTOH, Israel is a parliamentary democracy with Western democratic values. Unlike Nazi Germany.

Let's do a couple of comparisons. Should the RCMP have investigated William Calley and the My Lai massacre? Definitely a war crime. How about Abu Ghraib? Definitely a war crime.
 

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My objection is that if an Israeli-Cnadian soldier committed a specific war crime 8000km away how the hell would the RCMP know about it? They don't have the resources to probe such incidents, so they're just wasting time and money.

Moreover, if if the soldiers were just following orders, and RMCP lay charges on them for war crimes just because Mark Carney's Canadastan believes IDF is committing so-called genocide as whole, it seems unfair that they have to hire lawyers to defend themselves for servicing the country. The whole thing is just a farce.
They would work with domestic law enforcement, intelligence and other international organizations as well as rely on Canadian law to ascertain if a war crime had taken place and if a Canadian was involved.
"Just following orders" is not really a defence.
They are Canadians that should act according to Canadian law.
They are also fighting for a foreign military, so they are not servicing the country.
Generally, no Canadian should be allowed to fight for another country, and the only way they should be allowed to do that is if they renounce their Canadian citizenship.
 

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I know. OTOH, Israel is a parliamentary democracy with Western democratic values.
Israel's laws are the most democratic in the middle east but they aren't remotely as democratic as most other western nations.
But not sure why that would make it okay for a Canadian to potentially indulge in war crimes fighting for a foreign state.
 
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I know. OTOH, Israel is a parliamentary democracy with Western democratic values. Unlike Nazi Germany.
Not sure I understand your point.
They aren't investigating the governments of those countries.

Let's do a couple of comparisons. Should the RCMP have investigated William Calley and the My Lai massacre? Definitely a war crime. How about Abu Ghraib? Definitely a war crime.
Was William Calley a Canadian or did he move to Canada?
Did the law in question exist then?

No to both?
Then no.

Were any Canadians involved in Abu Ghraib?
Given Canada didn't participate in Iraq, i suspect no, but there may have been people who since moved to Canada.
If so, they should be.
 

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They would work with domestic law enforcement, intelligence and other international organizations as well as rely on Canadian law to ascertain if a war crime had taken place and if a Canadian was involved.
"Just following orders" is not really a defence.
They are Canadians that should act according to Canadian law.
They are also fighting for a foreign military, so they are not servicing the country.
Generally, no Canadian should be allowed to fight for another country, and the only way they should be allowed to do that is if they renounce their Canadian citizenship.
Again.
The law has been on the books for over 20 years.
 
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They would work with domestic law enforcement, intelligence and other international organizations as well as rely on Canadian law to ascertain if a war crime had taken place and if a Canadian was involved.
Sure Canadian domestic law enforcement is so good at collecting intelligence and working with international organizations.
 

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Not sure I understand your point.
They aren't investigating the governments of those countries.

Was William Calley a Canadian or did he move to Canada?
Did the law in question exist then?

No to both?
Then no.

Were any Canadians involved in Abu Ghraib?
Given Canada didn't participate in Iraq, i suspect no, but there may have been people who since moved to Canada.
If so, they should be.
Maybe I misunderstand. If the RCMP is investigating Canadians who are alleged to by involved in war crimes in Gaza, that's a little different.

I assumed that the RCMP was told to investigate the Israeli govt and the IDF in general..
 
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