Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)

[Butler1000]

So it s impossible to say that transgender is a lie and is just a mental fantasy because it might cause people to kill transgenders? Basically you are denying him the right to make statements about the natural world based on an unsupported fear that maybe someone somewhere will decide to kill a transgender even though absolutely nothing he says suggest enacting violence against them.

You belong in North Korea clapping in synch with your pal kim.

Explain Ladyboys......

Yes nature produces many offshoots, many genetic mutations. Gay in theory doesn't make sense either yet we have tons of gay people dating back thousands of years. Asexual doesn't make sense as it's a lack of procreation desire. Yet many are that way too.

Why the hell would you think that someone would choose the long difficult road to be trans? And what makes a person a person? Their mind, or their plumbing? I say the mind. That is where is resides.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

If it didnt make sense to you, then take a step back and stop being so sure he was a "stochastic terrorist".

"Middle finger to god" sounds about right for a Christian, he could say the same for homosexuality and it is perfectly coherent with his religion and it s also non violent speech.

Christians do try to convert gays back to heterosexuality right? They certainly dont advocate to kill them, so how could it be a call to violence? Again, you interpret things in the worse possible way then call it "stochastic terrorism". Pathetic.

Except it isn't a statement of truth nor is it in line with the teachings of Christianity.
Christians believe God created everything which must naturally include trans people.
So a good Christian will call trans people, children of God.
A bad/fake Christian who wants to use religion to rile up fear and division to make money, like Charlie will engage in stochastic terrorism and call them a "middle finger to god".

 

[martel2l]

Explain Ladyboys......

Yes nature produces many offshoots, many genetic mutations. Gay in theory doesn't make sense either yet we have tons of gay people dating back thousands of years. Asexual doesn't make sense as it's a lack of procreation desire. Yet many are that way too.

Why the hell would you think that someone would choose the long difficult road to be trans? And what makes a person a person? Their mind, or their plumbing? I say the mind. That is where is resides.

You missed the point entirely. I dont give a shit if he s right or wrong about trans he has the right to say it and it s 0% violent and stochastic terrorism is bullcrap.

 

[martel2l]

Except it isn't a statement of truth nor is it in line with the teachings of Christianity.
Christians believe God created everything which must naturally include trans people.
So a good Christian will call trans people, children of God.
A bad/fake Christian who wants to use religion to rile up fear and division to make money, like Charlie will engage in stochastic terrorism and call them a "middle finger to god".

Yea bro get out of here with your new age christianity, it was never accepting of homosexuality, none of the three abrahamic religions were. Homosexual acts are considered a sin that should not be performed, that s it for christians/jews/muslims.

And Kirk called trans children of gods, all christians call them as such

 

[rlnga]

Yea bro get out of here with your new age christianity, it was never accepting of homosexuality, none of the three abrahamic religions were. Homosexual acts are considered a sin that should not be performed, that s it for christians/jews/muslims.

And Kirk called trans children of gods, all christians call them as such

Matthew 22:36-40

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Straight from the bible itself. So please don’t talk about religion when these POS’ are using it to weaponize their bigotry and hatred.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yes, I can.
Political violence has always been a part of the American political landscape. It's not really new.
Historically, our political debates have been quite intense. Some extreme people are agitated and motivated enough to believe they can make a difference through violence. We might both deem a lone wolf as unstable, but that is a different discussion.

No one is saying you, squeeze, mandy and others are directly supporting political violence. We just think you take a cavalier attitude towards this violence.

You said you can supply examples but then failed to provide them.
Try again.

 

[mandrill]

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Yea bro get out of here with your new age christianity, it was never accepting of homosexuality,

In the 21st century most believers are much more modern than that.
Many churches now perform gay marriages and we have female pastors and priests.

 

[mandrill]

your hateful narrative about Charlie that you are spreading here is probably the very reason why the man was killed

which in fact would make you a "stochastic terrorist" as well

so you know what you speak off

Charlie didn't really like blacks, browns, gays and women, did he?

Really dug guns though. And scolding people he considered his inferiors.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

your hateful narrative about Charlie that you are spreading here is probably the very reason why the man was killed

which in fact would make you a "stochastic terrorist" as well

so you know what you speak off

There is no narrative to spread about him.
I am repeating words that came out of his mouth.
Example: See Mandrill's post #581. Tell me. After reading that, what would you consider him to be?

 

[rlnga]

Charlie didn't really like blacks, browns, gays and women, did he?

Really dug guns though. And scolding people he considered his inferiors.

Kind of ironic that his life was ended by gun violence which he passionately defended.

 

[martel2l]

Matthew 22:36-40

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Straight from the bible itself. So please don’t talk about religion when these POS’ are using it to weaponize their bigotry and hatred.

Yea and if you had asked kirk he would have and probably did say" i love them and they are children of gods", they all say that in their little disarming post speech. You can still say that and then say trans choice is a middle finger to god, which it is considering you re telling god he chose your sex wrong. This is all coherent if you re a christian. So again where is the fucking terrorism already?

 

[Frankfooter]

the hateful narrative about Charlie that you are spreading here is probably the very reason why the man was killed

which in fact would make you a "stochastic terrorist" as well

so you know what you speak off

Totally wrong.
Shaq said Kirk is a shitty human but that is not justification for killing anyone.

Its the right wing that's talking about revenge and war while the left wing is talking about catching the perp and putting them on trial.

Kirk had a digital 'hit list'.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1966220606489461231

 

[Frankfooter]

Ahhhhh. Love and intercourse are the same thing. I get it. So do you have kids? Do you 'love' them?

Is this how MAGA justifies pedos?

 

[Frankfooter]

Anyone know why trump and Netanyahu's Kirk statements happened at the same time?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1966132648126120206

 

[mandrill]

the hateful narrative about Charlie that you are spreading here is probably the very reason why the man was killed

which in fact would make you a "stochastic terrorist" as well

so you know what you speak off

Nah. Charlie was nasty and Shaquie gets to say so. And Charlie would probably have lived longer if he wasn't as nasty.

Somewhere Charlie's trad ex wife is smiling to herself. She get Charlie's ample money and - for the first time in several years - doesn't have to endure his humiliation of her each day. Win for her.

And a win for Charlie's kids, who are no longer the accessories to his political bullshit and can finally develop into their own selves. Win for them as well.

It's always sad when someone gets shot. But sometimes it's actually beneficial to the people around them.

 

[Butler1000]

You missed the point entirely. I dont give a shit if he s right or wrong about trans he has the right to say it and it s 0% violent and stochastic terrorism is bullcrap.

Free speech does not include freedom from consequences. Espouse marginalization and its not free speech.

It's a threat to the marginalized.

 

[martel2l]

In the 21st century most believers are much more modern than that.
Many churches now perform gay marriages and we have female pastors and priests.

Most believers are in south america and also africa where homosexuality is often outlawed. The pope certainly does not recognize gay marriage. you re talking about some meme churches. I would agree that the whole religion might become a meme at some point but that is what kirk was also fighting against.

 

[mandrill]

that is total BS

"Black women don't have the brain power to be taken seriously"..... ???????

Tell me who's the bullshitter?

 

[Butler1000]

Yea bro get out of here with your new age christianity, it was never accepting of homosexuality, none of the three abrahamic religions were. Homosexual acts are considered a sin that should not be performed, that s it for christians/jews/muslims.

And Kirk called trans children of gods, all christians call them as such

Yup. It's not free speech. It's threats. Charlie espoused the Church as having primacy in determining societal values, laws, etc.

In other words he didn't believe in all men created equal. Just the the Christian ones.