Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

No, it's framing if on someone it doesn't belong to is the problem here. Lmao then you're debating a corpse and desperately trying to pin it on the other side.

Here I'll do you a favour, people who point to 'Nationalist Socialist' to finger Hitler as some commie, are also idiots. He was right wing extreme.

See how I can switch. Just own it, this was an act of a left wing extremist. All extremists suck. The end, welcome to moderate politics, something that's gone these days.

In this particular case, we do not yet know if Tyler Robinson was a leftist.
There are no further details beyond the engraving on the bullet, which is frankly neither here nor there.
His supposed transgender lover/room mate, Lance Twiggs is nowhere to be found.
At the very least you'd expect to see an interview, but no.
So there is no credible evidence to suggest that Tyler was left wing.
Secondly your sentence - "No, it's framing if on someone it doesn't belong to is the problem here." doesn't make sense.
Charlie was a MAGA influencer.
The MAGA movement is lionizing, canonizing him and sane washing him and by extension what Kirk argued for.
Liberals need to challenge that message, like they are, regardless of whether you call that debating a corpse or not.
It seems you agree with Charlie Kirk, and instead of just admitting you are MAGA, you are trying to both side the argument.
The issue is and has always been only on one side, before and after Charlie's death. That side is the right aka MAGA and they cannot be left off the hook.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

We need to keep up the pressure on the right

 

[Abjectpatient]

There it is

 

[Abjectpatient]

Right now it looks like it was either an attack by a more extreme right winger, a groyper, or it was some weird covert assassination by someone like Netanyahu.
The left had nothing to do with it.

Left wingers could care less about Kirk, he was just yet another billionaire funded podcaster stirring up shit.

Yet we have like a 150 page thread of it with the title declaring who did it, when evidence points otherwise and noting has been determined in a court.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Example: Welcome to your 4th Liberal term after having a 20 point lead over the Liberals. lmfao.

 

[Abjectpatient]

Example: Welcome to your 4th Liberal term after having a 20 point lead over the Liberals. lmfao.

What

 

[Abjectpatient]

Right now it looks like it was either an attack by a more extreme right winger, a groyper, or it was some weird covert assassination by someone like Netanyahu.
The left had nothing to do with it.

Left wingers could care less about Kirk, he was just yet another billionaire funded podcaster stirring up shit.

I like how the Jews are some how here now

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

What

Pierre Poilievre was pushing "MAGA lite" ideology in Canada and he lost the elections after holding a significant lead over the Liberals.

 

[Abjectpatient]

Just remeber, you can all contribute to the polarization of society, but are probably too old (40+) and too unarmed (Canada) to do anything but die when some 19 year old is pushing you around.

Someone getting shot for an opinion is an escalation to this point.

 

[Abjectpatient]

Pierre Poilievre was pushing "MAGA lite" ideology in Canada and he lost the elections after holding a significant lead over the Liberals.

Your house price will stay high
And culture lost at the expense of zooomers, millenials and alphas.

What a legacy. Gg

I know most of you are 50+ on here. But your suffering grand children don't actually share your opinion.

Society is in for a big chance. I hate I'll be alive in 2100 to see it, unlike you old fucks who have a decade left or so.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

And culture lost....

There it is.
Next time, instead of trying to both side the argument, or lament the current state of divisive politics, just come out and say that you are a MAGA supporter.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yet we have like a 150 page thread of it with the title declaring who did it, when evidence points otherwise and noting has been determined in a court.

Yup, and it started with right wingers declaring this was the start of a war against left wingers.
Now its devolved into conspiracy theories about who really did the killing and why.

You're a little late.

 

[Abjectpatient]

There it is.
Next time, instead of trying to both side the argument, or lament the current state of divisive politics, just come out and say that you are a MAGA supporter.

Declare yourself, hero.

 

[Abjectpatient]

Yup, and it started with right wingers declaring this was the start of a war against left wingers.
Now its devolved into conspiracy theories about who really did the killing and why.

You're a little late.

No it did not unless you read into low IQ bullshit

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

I know most of you are 50+ on here. But your suffering grand children don't actually share your opinion.

Society is in for a big chance. I hate I'll be alive in 2100 to see it, unlike you old fucks who have a decade left or so.

I understand you are on the younger side.
But you'll be alive in 75 years in 2100? How old are you now and are you even old enough to be on this site?!
Also, the 30 to 40% conservative voting younger people today are reactionaries who have swung to the right primarily due to cost of living issues.
But deporting everybody and embracing Jesus isn't going to help you.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Example: Welcome to your 4th Liberal term after having a 20 point lead over the Liberals. lmfao

Trump > Carney

 

[Abjectpatient]

I understand you are on the younger side.
But you'll be alive in 75 years in 2100? How old are you now and are you even old enough to be on this site?!
Also, the 30 to 40% conservative voting younger people today are reactionaries who have swung to the right primarily due to cost of living issues.
But deporting everybody and embracing Jesus isn't going to help you.

Bye bye old fuck. It's already happening in Europe.

I'm tired of this. You'll be too dead or old to see /do anything, breath air in your million dollar shack; the end. Bye. AfD and Fld and Trump, are just the start of recovering our national identity.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Trump > Carney

Only if one lives vicariously like you do. lmao.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

In this particular case, we do not yet know if Tyler Robinson was a leftist

Are you still going to ignore what his mom said about him??

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/17/politics/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-motive

Prosecutors in Utah released charging documents that don’t ascribe a specific motive but do feature a number of clues and shed light on Robinson’s politics.
Those who knew Robinson initially gave conflicting and confusing accounts about his politics.

The fuller evidence we now have suggests Robinson held liberal views.

In addition to criticizing Kirk for allegedly spreading hate, the charging documents say Robinson’s mother “explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.”

The documents also say Robinson had “several” political discussions with family members, especially his father, and that the two of them “have very different political views.”
Robinson in the text messages allegedly described his father as “pretty diehard MAGA,” since Trump took office.

The charging documents don’t include the texts immediately before or after he allegedly said that, so it’s not clear the context in which he brought that up. But the limited evidence we have from his family suggests he was at least left-leaning and disagreed with his MAGA father

 

[Abjectpatient]

Are you still going to ignore what his mom said about him??

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/17/politics/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-motive

Prosecutors in Utah released charging documents that don’t ascribe a specific motive but do feature a number of clues and shed light on Robinson’s politics.
Those who knew Robinson initially gave conflicting and confusing accounts about his politics.

The fuller evidence we now have suggests Robinson held liberal views.

In addition to criticizing Kirk for allegedly spreading hate, the charging documents say Robinson’s mother “explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.”

The documents also say Robinson had “several” political discussions with family members, especially his father, and that the two of them “have very different political views.”
Robinson in the text messages allegedly described his father as “pretty diehard MAGA,” since Trump took office.

The charging documents don’t include the texts immediately before or after he allegedly said that, so it’s not clear the context in which he brought that up. But the limited evidence we have from his family suggests he was at least left-leaning and disagreed with his MAGA father

Logic isn't allowed here