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Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)

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Yup, and it started with right wingers declaring this was the start of a war against left wingers.
Now its devolved into conspiracy theories about who really did the killing and why.

You're a little late.
There is no conspiracy, a radicalized left winger did this. He used things you older folks don't know, like discord, to plan and implement and confess.

He was an internet edgelord who took it too far.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Are you still going to ignore what his mom said about him??


Prosecutors in Utah released charging documents that don’t ascribe a specific motive but do feature a number of clues and shed light on Robinson’s politics.
Those who knew Robinson initially gave conflicting and confusing accounts about his politics.

The fuller evidence we now have suggests Robinson held liberal views.

In addition to criticizing Kirk for allegedly spreading hate, the charging documents say Robinson’s mother “explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.”

The documents also say Robinson had “several” political discussions with family members, especially his father, and that the two of them “have very different political views.”
Robinson in the text messages allegedly described his father as “pretty diehard MAGA,” since Trump took office.

The charging documents don’t include the texts immediately before or after he allegedly said that, so it’s not clear the context in which he brought that up. But the limited evidence we have from his family suggests he was at least left-leaning and disagreed with his MAGA father
What the mom considers "left" may not actually be left because here are many LGBTQ people who are MAGA too.
Hating Charlie Kirk is also not just a left wing thing. The groypers hated him too, and there is an argument to be made that Tyler was a groyper.
Secondly, the FBI after bungling the investigation releases convenient information that is basically a lay up and paints this as an open and shut case.
As you know, anything Kash Patel's FBI puts out cannot be trusted and has to be considered with a measure of skepticism.
So I will still maintain that information is extremely limited and what is available is questionable. (And it isn't just people on the left that are questioning it).
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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You'll be too dead or old to see /do anything, breath air in your million dollar shack; the end. Bye. AfD and Fld and Trump, are just the start of recovering our national identity.
Reactionary politics.
Exactly why we need to keep up the pressure to ensure that it doesn't come to Canada.
 

Frankfooter

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Just remeber, you can all contribute to the polarization of society, but are probably too old (40+) and too unarmed (Canada) to do anything but die when some 19 year old is pushing you around.

Someone getting shot for an opinion is an escalation to this point.
Charlie Kirk was a billionaire funded podcaster whose goal was to further divide the right and left in america.
How do you think you are working to lessen the polarization?
 

squeezer

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Your house price will stay high
And culture lost at the expense of zooomers, millenials and alphas.

What a legacy. Gg

I know most of you are 50+ on here. But your suffering grand children don't actually share your opinion.

Society is in for a big chance. I hate I'll be alive in 2100 to see it, unlike you old fucks who have a decade left or so.
SO let's see, it's 2025, in 2100, you would already be 75 if you were a newborn baby as of right now?

You are going to make a great MAGA voter in 18 years when you are allowed to vote. LMFAO
 

WyattEarp

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Are you still going to ignore what his mom said about him??


Prosecutors in Utah released charging documents that don’t ascribe a specific motive but do feature a number of clues and shed light on Robinson’s politics.
Those who knew Robinson initially gave conflicting and confusing accounts about his politics.

The fuller evidence we now have suggests Robinson held liberal views.

In addition to criticizing Kirk for allegedly spreading hate, the charging documents say Robinson’s mother “explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.”

The documents also say Robinson had “several” political discussions with family members, especially his father, and that the two of them “have very different political views.”
Robinson in the text messages allegedly described his father as “pretty diehard MAGA,” since Trump took office.

The charging documents don’t include the texts immediately before or after he allegedly said that, so it’s not clear the context in which he brought that up. But the limited evidence we have from his family suggests he was at least left-leaning and disagreed with his MAGA father
It would seem the Left requires a full-blown political manifesto or declaration. I've never defended a man facing the death penalty. (I'm sure our friend mandrill has.) I'm guessing his attorney has advised him to stay silent. Some type of leftist political declaration doesn't seem like a good idea when you are about to face a Red State jury.
 

squeezer

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It would seem the Left requires a full-blown political manifesto or declaration. I've never defended a man facing the death penalty. (I'm sure our friend mandrill has.) I'm guessing his attorney has advised him to stay silent. Some type of leftist political declaration doesn't seem like a good idea when you are about to face a Red State jury.
My prediction is he's done. Guilty for sure, the only question will be if it's the death penalty. I'm going with 90/10 it will be the death penalty.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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What the mom considers "left" may not actually be left because here are many LGBTQ people who are MAGA too.
Hating Charlie Kirk is also not just a left wing thing. The groypers hated him too, and there is an argument to be made that Tyler was a groyper.
Secondly, the FBI after bungling the investigation releases convenient information that is basically a lay up and paints this as an open and shut case.
As you know, anything Kash Patel's FBI puts out cannot be trusted and has to be considered with a measure of skepticism.
So I will still maintain that information is extremely limited and what is available is questionable. (And it isn't just people on the left that are questioning it)
You're in deep denial
 

WyattEarp

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Trump > Carney
Many here are Liberal ideologues. They think they won a fourth Liberal term. What if a fourth term looks like Trudeau's ten years? There was a very serious reason why Canadians rejected Trudeau.

I wouldn't necessarily say Trump > Carney. However, I would say Liberals need Trump and the U.S. to fail. They can't have Canadians looking at the U.S. economy going what the fuck are we doing wrong. Europeans are in a bubble and the U.S. can be a distant abstraction. Canada can't be in a bubble.
 

Frankfooter

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It would seem the Left requires a full-blown political manifesto or declaration. I've never defended a man facing the death penalty. (I'm sure our friend mandrill has.) I'm guessing his attorney has advised him to stay silent. Some type of leftist political declaration doesn't seem like a good idea when you are about to face a Red State jury.
The CNN article misses a few things, there is a trans side of groypers. Fuentes et all seem to think women aren't good enough and some trans boy is more superior.
The evidence he was left is really weak and almost nobody believes the text messages are real.

The whole thing is a shitshow but the idea that the left wing cared enough about some podcaster to get him killed is pretty nutso.
He was a right wing idol but nobody was afraid of him anymore than they are afraid of Alex Jones or Tucker C, who came before him.
 

Frankfooter

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My prediction is he's done. Guilty for sure, the only question will be if it's the death penalty. I'm going with 90/10 it will be the death penalty.
That and a quiet trial are likely what the right wing are hoping for.
Keep it quiet and keep pushing Kirk as some sort of right wing martyr.
 

WyattEarp

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What the mom considers "left" may not actually be left because here are many LGBTQ people who are MAGA too.
Hating Charlie Kirk is also not just a left wing thing. The groypers hated him too, and there is an argument to be made that Tyler was a groyper.
Secondly, the FBI after bungling the investigation releases convenient information that is basically a lay up and paints this as an open and shut case.
As you know, anything Kash Patel's FBI puts out cannot be trusted and has to be considered with a measure of skepticism.
So I will still maintain that information is extremely limited and what is available is questionable. (And it isn't just people on the left that are questioning it).
@squeezer How bout a pretzel here? You can gain some street cred as a more fair participant.
 
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