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Jimmy Kimmel Show is back! Sinclair & Nexstar backs down TACO style

WyattEarp

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Might depend on the contract they have with ABC and how willing they were to drive away viewers from traditional broadcasting.



A look at the economics of the standoff helps explain why. Although losing potential Kimmel viewers in the markets served by Sinclair and Nexstar put ABC in a tight spot with advertisers that expect a minimum number of viewers, the boycott was more costly to the broadcast stations, which have drawn many fewer viewers this week with their replacement programming (typically more local news, which they’ve had to pay to produce) than they would have with Kimmel—particularly now, when millions more people are tuning in as a result of the controversy. Late-night TV shows are far less popular than they used to be, but Kimmel still pulls in 1.6 million viewers on an average night and, according to the ad-data provider iSpot, has generated $70 million in ad revenue this year.

Sinclair and Nexstar may be potent media players, but they would have run into serious problems if they had preempted Kimmel’s show for an extended period of time. The terms of the contracts that affiliates sign with the networks are confidential, but they typically limit the number of times a station can refuse to air a network show. When a station violates its contract, a network can inflict both financial penalties and other problems by denying the station some of its programming.

In ABC’s case, its most dire threat would have been to pull college football and Monday Night Football from Sinclair and Nexstar stations. That would be painful to local stations; football is perhaps the most valuable property they have. “You can’t watch Oklahoma-Texas on our station this Saturday because we think it’s more important to not show our viewers Jimmy Kimmel” was not a message that was going to win over viewers, even conservative ones.

Worse, if viewers hadn’t been able to watch college football on their local ABC station, they could have always tuned in to Disney’s ESPN app. Viewers who couldn’t watch Kimmel on their local ABC station this week were able to find him on DirectTV, Disney+, and Hulu. The longer the standoff continued, in other words, the more incentive viewers would have had to seek out alternatives, and the clearer it would have become that they don’t actually need to watch broadcast TV to watch most of what’s on traditional TV.
First, this was The Atlantic who publish a lot of left-leaning commentary and perspectives.
Second, one of our members could have put this together. It's more the author's view of what he thought happened.
Third, was there anyone close to the discussions quoted? It's behind a paywall in the U.S. so I can't tell.

Last but not least, how do we know the objective was to cancel Kimmel? That's kind of a big presumption of the author. I have not seen any indication that was the objective.

This all could have been Nexstar and Sinclair signaling to Disney-ABC and Kimmel Don't alienate half our audience. (probably more in their markets) Make people laugh.
 

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First, this was The Atlantic who publish a lot of left-leaning commentary and perspectives.
Second, one of our members could have put this together. It's more the author's view of what he thought happened.
Third, was there anyone close to the discussions quoted? It's behind a paywall in the U.S. so I can't tell.

Last but not least, how do we know the objective was to cancel Kimmel? That's kind of a big presumption of the author. I have not seen any indication that was the objective.

This all could have been Nexstar and Sinclair signaling to Disney-ABC and Kimmel Don't alienate half our audience. (probably more in their markets) Make people laugh.
trump said he wanted to cancel Kimmel

 
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First, this was The Atlantic who publish a lot of left-leaning commentary and perspectives.
Second, one of our members could have put this together. It's more the author's view of what he thought happened.
Third, was there anyone close to the discussions quoted? It's behind a paywall in the U.S. so I can't tell.

Last but not least, how do we know the objective was to cancel Kimmel? That's kind of a big presumption of the author. I have not seen any indication that was the objective.

This all could have been Nexstar and Sinclair signaling to Disney-ABC and Kimmel Don't alienate half our audience. (probably more in their markets) Make people laugh.
You asked "would you agree Sinclair has the right to suspend Kimmel's show in their markets?"

I answered "Might depend on the contract they have with ABC."

Do you now think any more than before that whether Sinclair has the right to suspend Kimmels show might depend on the contract they have? If so, congrats. The Atlantic made you think a bit.


But media insiders say Nexstar and Sinclair face even bigger problems from the Disney side if they keep him off the air. Both signed their agreements fully aware of Kimmel’s hyper-partisan and anti-Trump political humor. Disney could argue the continued suspension of Kimmel violates their agreement. That’s after Kimmel, while not making an apology, at least said nice things about Kirk’s widow after ABC lifted its own suspension on Tuesday.

Disney has other tools in its kit — and some of them are big. It could withhold essential programming like “Monday Night Football,” which airs both on ABC and Disney’s ESPN cable sports channel.



Ultimately, it behooves all involved to have a cooperative relationship. But make no mistake, in the standoff between regulators, the affiliates and the networks, it is the affiliates who are in the most danger. No, the networks are not going to take their (foot)ball and go home. But the business of broadcast television comes with burdensome headaches, and ultimately is staying afloat largely because of network sports. If the affiliates are going to make it painful for the networks to stay in broadcast television, it would not take much for the networks to pull back just enough live sports content to return the favor.
 

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I don't remember any public pronouncements that Nexstar and Sinclair wanted to take Kimmel off the air permanently.
My opinion is that they wanted to make a statement for their conservative viewership.
I don't think anyone will know if this was a good business move.
This will all blow over and there will not be much impact to any parties whether it be KImmel, Disney, Nexstar or Sinclair.

But if people need to believe Nexstar and Sinclair were vanquished in their attempt to cancel Kimmel's show, don't let my opinion disturb that.
I would say they read the writing on the wall that their viewers were angry about what happened. Keep in mind the majority of US cities are fairly liberal/left-leaning. They are also the ones who the majority of advertisers want to reach. Both companies own stations in large cities like New Orleans, Portland, Seattle, etc. I think originally it was an attempt to show the FCC/Trump (at least with Nextstar) that they supported Trump...but, business concerns bit them in the ass. I think the major point here is that they said they would not carry Kimmel until he apologized (that was Sinclair, if I'm not mistaken), and that did not happen.
 
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I would say they read the writing on the wall that their viewers were angry about what happened. Keep in mind the majority of US cities are fairly liberal/left-leaning. They are also the ones who the majority of advertisers want to reach. Both companies own stations in large cities like New Orleans, Portland, Seattle, etc. I think originally it was an attempt to show the FCC/Trump (at least with Nextstar) that they supported Trump...but, business concerns bit them in the ass. I think the major point here is that they said they would not carry Kimmel until he apologized (that was Sinclair, if I'm not mistaken), and that did not happen.
I guess I should have made it clear point a week ago that Nexstar and Sinclair were going to put Kimmel back on the air regardless. It was both logical and the best business decision.

Now if I look at The Atlantic and other liberal media headlines, they are declaring a victory for Disney and Kimmel. Okay, I guess. You take what you can get.

My perspective is if one requires political winners and losers declared from every event this month it was not a great month for liberals. I think the Kimmel thing is and was always going to be a brief blip on the TV schedule. Perhaps there will a few independent voters who were so bothered by Kimmel's suspension that they will carry this into November, 2026.

From my U.S. vantage point, the Kirk assassination and to a lesser extent Kimmel and other's insistence on making political points has galvanized conservatives. I was not a Kirk supporter, but I can now see how much influence he had around the country. Midterms are of course about swaying independents, but because of lower turnouts in midterms rallying the base is critical.

Interestingly, a cavalcade of Hollywood stars will do the Kimmel show this week culminating with Tom Hanks on Friday. We all know how much influence Hollywood has with the American public. ;)

PS- If one needs political support, Tom Hanks is the best representative to have. He always finds a fairly balanced way to make a political point. It will be interesting to see if he references Kimmel's suspension in any manner subtle or not on Friday.
 
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I guess I should have made it clear point a week ago that Nexstar and Sinclair were going to put Kimmel back on the air regardless. It was both logical and the best business decision.

Now if I look at The Atlantic and other liberal media headlines, they are declaring a victory for Disney and Kimmel. Okay, I guess. You take what you can get.
I think we all knew Sinclair and Nexstar would cave. I would say this was a victory for Kimmel, not Disney. Disney's reputation is in the mud, and they apparently lost over a million Disney+ subscribers in the days after Kimmel's suspension.

My perspective is if one requires political winners and losers declared from every event this month it was not a great month for liberals. I think the Kimmel thing is and was always going to be a brief blip on the TV schedule. Perhaps there will a few independent voters who were so bothered by Kimmel's suspension that they will carry this into November, 2026.

From my U.S. vantage point, the Kirk assassination and to a lesser extent Kimmel and other's insistence on making political points has galvanized conservatives. I was not a Kirk supporter, but I can now see how much influence he had around the country. Midterms are of course about swaying independents, but because of lower turnouts in midterms rallying the base is critical.
This is true. But, unless Trump can somehow magically get the economy to improve in the next 13 months or so, there is a VERY strong chance the Dems will get control of the house. It is also one of the reasons Trump is working to manically to get this done. Haphazardly for sure, and doing probably real damage to their economy (and ours/Europe/Asia). I mean, inflation is soaring, the price of gas has not gone down, unemployment is rising and it likely won't get much better in the near term.

Interestingly, a cavalcade of Hollywood stars will do the Kimmel show this week culminating with Tom Hanks on Friday. We all know how much influence Hollywood has with the American public. ;)

PS- If one needs political support, Tom Hanks is the best representative to have. He always finds a fairly balanced way to make a political point. It will be interesting to see if he references Kimmel's suspension in any manner subtle or not on Friday.
You are right. I'm not really one of those who immediately hate an artist because they support conservatives, but I do care when they speak out on important things like free speech. And, I think Hanks has always been a centrist, it's just that the right has moved the goalposts so far that Hanks is now fairly deep with the left.
 

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I think we all knew Sinclair and Nexstar would cave.
That's not at all what I said so your use of "all' is too encompassing. I have said on this thread Nexstar and Sinclair were going to put Kimmel back on the air regardless. I went further to say I see no evidence their objective was to take him off the air permanently.

This is an important distinction.

But if people need to believe Nexstar and Sinclair were vanquished in their attempt to cancel Kimmel's show, don't let my opinion disturb that.

This is true. But, unless Trump can somehow magically get the economy to improve in the next 13 months or so, there is a VERY strong chance the Dems will get control of the house. It is also one of the reasons Trump is working to manically to get this done. Haphazardly for sure, and doing probably real damage to their economy (and ours/Europe/Asia). I mean, inflation is soaring, the price of gas has not gone down, unemployment is rising and it likely won't get much better in the near term.
If Trump gets the economy going in the next year that would be great, but there is a strong likelihood Trump would lose the House anyway. It's just the natural cycle of our midterm elections. Presidential elections are far better measurements of the pulse of the nation.

As far as gas prices, I sense you might see be seeing something else in Canada. While prices at the pump have many variables beyond cost inputs (namely seasonal demand, taxes and pricing lags), there has been downward pressure on U.S. gas prices.

Oil prices are the best indicator of what is happening to the inflationary effects of energy. Now while I don't subscribe to the theory that U.S. Presidents can influence U.S. oil prices much in the short-run, oil prices are down 17% since the Inauguration. I only mention oil prices because you did. Also, overall inflation is not "soaring", but nice try editorializing.

FYI, there is no magic necessary to get the U.S. economy going. The biggest factor at this point is the Fed lowering interest rates as they have started this month.

And, I think Hanks has always been a centrist, it's just that the right has moved the goalposts so far that Hanks is now fairly deep with the left.
I can tell you really want to believe that. You should watch Bill Maher a bit. He gives it to both parties on the matter of stupidity and moving goalposts. It's actually a widely-shared view regardless of one's opinion of Maher.

Essentially, Tom Hanks wants to avoid alienating a part of his audience because it is so big and universal across the country.
 
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