RCMP admitted they wanted to charge him then that got swept under the rug. Bill Clinton was also impeached while in office and stayed in office after that.
Jimmy Kimmel Show is back! Sinclair & Nexstar backs down TACO style
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How come when Bill Clinton was impeached, he still remained POTUS, unlike Andrew Johnson and Richard Nixon?
Answer (1 of 11): The impeachment process is in two parts, the word impeach means more or less the same as to accuse. Under the US Constitution, the House of Representatives has the right to impeach . This is roughly equivalent to a grand jury process in criminal law. The house is entitled to tak...
squeezer's post said there wasn't enough evidence to charge Trudeau.
But you think the RCMP just wanted to charge him anyways?
I agree with you regarding the tv business. It is in shambles. And it is up here as well. It used to be a channel like the local CTV or CityTv could survive on ad revenue. Now that there are so many different channels and competition from streaming services/YouTube, the ad dollars are not there any more. Consolidation can promote savings, but the FCC has a long-standing regulation that could be enforced for legit, non-partisan reasons. Now, the fact that we're talking about the Trump administration means there is no logic or reasonable thought, if Newstar kisses the ring, there is a good chance they'll be allowed to proceed...
The thing about Kimmel is that he is the canary in the coal mine. I think the reasonable people here recognize the fact that Trump would LOVE to silence his critics in any way. Look at the frivolous lawsuits he's filed against the NYT and others. Now, both CBS and ABC chose to settle, apparently because they were looking to get approval for other business deal. Now, look at higher education...The Harvards and Columbia's of the world. Prestigious institutions that Trump has worked hard to bring to heel. Columbia rolled over, but Harvard continues to fight.
Now, as for the Spirit/Jetblue proposal, I highly doubt that Biden had any input on it. He never weighed in on it. Which is a striking difference between what Trump has said about people like Jimmy Kimmel and other critics. He in the past has wondered about broadcast licenses, which shows there could be a reason Carr acted the fool and said what he did.
You should know, you're in a huge cult full of "independent thinkers" who all say the same thing....
I think you missed my point about Spirit/Jet Blue. The Biden Administration took a harder stance on mergers and acquisitions than Republican Administrations. I think Trump Administration 2.0 will be generally supportive, but his Administration doesn't always adhere to Republican orthodoxy in every situation.
As I said earlier, if you think Nexstar fears their acquisition being blocked on anti-trust grounds that's a reasonable opinion. I just don't see it that way. I think it just fits a political narrative very well though.
So I wasn't trying to compare intervening in the Spirit/Jet Blue merger with intervening with Kimmel's show. I was simply speaking of M&A in a Trump environment vs. a Biden environment.
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OK, maybe I misread what you were talking about re: Spirit. Yes, the GOP usually helps big business get bigger. But, the DOJ recognized that the merger between the two airlines would probably hurt consumers. It's the same reason they charged Microsoft (and now Google) with anti-trust measures.
I agree, I think Nextstar fears a blockage. But, doing Trump a solid and pulling out of airing a thorn in Trump's side probably earned them some goodwill. Now, the fact they backed down could hurt. I mean, they faced a lot of pushback from their viewers and advertisers in those local markets.
Spirit is going to be broke-up and assets will be auctioned off less than two years after the DOJ blocked the merger. The DOJ was told that but they were dogmatic in thinking that somehow it would work out for consumers. They punished Spirit's shareholders and lenders with a very bad, long shot bet.
A Jet Blue/Spirit combination might have made a stronger competitor to the Big Four (American, United, Delta and Southwest).
Don't underestimate the stupidity of government.
Yes, that's a reasonable opinion. My opinion is that Nexstar and Sinclair (both Texas-based) are likely always in the President's corner. Editorial control is the prerogative of ownership.
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AI Hitch is spot on...
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Cancel Culture for Thee, Not for MAGA – Christopher Hitchens
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In regards to the OP changing the title to say Nexstar and Sinclair backed down, I don't see it that way at all.
I think Nexstar and Sinclair reminded Disney and the Kimmel show that they too have a lot of power in the ABC system. Very likely there were discussions amongst the four parties. Disney likely played the broker in the middle.
This reminds me of the stories of Jay Leno really working the NBC affiliates at NBC conventions. When it came time to replace Johnny Carson, the NBC affiliates were in Jay's corner. Letterman didn't like playing the game.
I think Nexstar and Sinclair reminded Disney and the Kimmel show that they too have a lot of power in the ABC system. Very likely there were discussions amongst the four parties. Disney likely played the broker in the middle.
This reminds me of the stories of Jay Leno really working the NBC affiliates at NBC conventions. When it came time to replace Johnny Carson, the NBC affiliates were in Jay's corner. Letterman didn't like playing the game.
I totally agree that it was a form of cancel culture if we kind of dramatize a four or five day suspension as being cancelled.AI Hitch is spot on...
Cancel Culture for Thee, Not for MAGA – Christopher Hitchens
Christopher Hitchens and Jimmy Kimmel’s so-called “crime”: mocking the MAGA gang. The real scandal isn’t a joke — it’s the pure hypocrisy of free-speech warr...
However keeping all the Nexstar teeth-gnashing aside, would you agree Sinclair has the right to suspend Kimmel's show in their markets?
PS- I heard Kimmel's ratings dropped from their immediate post-controversy boom. That seemed obvious that would happen. Now we have to sit back and see if there is any damage to Kimmel's ratings. I don't think anyone can defend Kimmel's show from being spurned by the audience.
PS2- I'm a Fallon guy.
Show me the evidence that Trump is on Epstein's list.
Might depend on the contract they have with ABC and how willing they were to drive away viewers from traditional broadcasting.
Nexstar and Sinclair Lost Their Game of Chicken
Broadcast-media companies may be growing, but they still couldn’t afford to reject Jimmy Kimmel forever.
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A look at the economics of the standoff helps explain why. Although losing potential Kimmel viewers in the markets served by Sinclair and Nexstar put ABC in a tight spot with advertisers that expect a minimum number of viewers, the boycott was more costly to the broadcast stations, which have drawn many fewer viewers this week with their replacement programming (typically more local news, which they’ve had to pay to produce) than they would have with Kimmel—particularly now, when millions more people are tuning in as a result of the controversy. Late-night TV shows are far less popular than they used to be, but Kimmel still pulls in 1.6 million viewers on an average night and, according to the ad-data provider iSpot, has generated $70 million in ad revenue this year.
Sinclair and Nexstar may be potent media players, but they would have run into serious problems if they had preempted Kimmel’s show for an extended period of time. The terms of the contracts that affiliates sign with the networks are confidential, but they typically limit the number of times a station can refuse to air a network show. When a station violates its contract, a network can inflict both financial penalties and other problems by denying the station some of its programming.
In ABC’s case, its most dire threat would have been to pull college football and Monday Night Football from Sinclair and Nexstar stations. That would be painful to local stations; football is perhaps the most valuable property they have. “You can’t watch Oklahoma-Texas on our station this Saturday because we think it’s more important to not show our viewers Jimmy Kimmel” was not a message that was going to win over viewers, even conservative ones.
Worse, if viewers hadn’t been able to watch college football on their local ABC station, they could have always tuned in to Disney’s ESPN app. Viewers who couldn’t watch Kimmel on their local ABC station this week were able to find him on DirectTV, Disney+, and Hulu. The longer the standoff continued, in other words, the more incentive viewers would have had to seek out alternatives, and the clearer it would have become that they don’t actually need to watch broadcast TV to watch most of what’s on traditional TV.
Completely agree! lol On both counts. But, as Nexstar and Sinclair are showing, bullshit talks and money walks.....right back into carrying Kimmel...
I don't remember any public pronouncements that Nexstar and Sinclair wanted to take Kimmel off the air permanently.
My opinion is that they wanted to make a statement for their conservative viewership.
I don't think anyone will know if this was a good business move.
This will all blow over and there will not be much impact to any parties whether it be KImmel, Disney, Nexstar or Sinclair.
But if people need to believe Nexstar and Sinclair were vanquished in their attempt to cancel Kimmel's show, don't let my opinion disturb that.
I think you have it the other way around. I suspect DIsney explained to Nexstar and Sinclair what is in their agreement, and if they continue not to have Kimmel on, they will lose rights to other prime ABC shows i.e., sporting telecasts.
As for Nexstar and Sinclair they are now saying they are all about free speech. YA OK
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I never got the sense that anyone was really stating the goal was to cancel Kimmel's show.
Sinclair wanted Kimmel to apologize. He kind of did, but didn't.
It is one of those things where if you want to form a narrative around the events it's fairly easy.
How bout trying this one on for size? The FCC Chairman after pressure from Republican leaders in Congress called off Nexstar and Sinclair. The FCC Chair and Republican leaders decided it would be bad politics to have the Kimmel show cancelled. I don't think that's what happened, but it could have.
Your thesis is probably correct that things like programming were discussed on some level. However years ago when I traveled, I noticed some ABC affiliates would broadcast Kimmel a half hour later in some markets. Talk show hosts and network execs hate that. So there is some wiggle there.
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I'm sure you will also say this isn't any kind of censorship or cancel culture.
