Carney ready to fold?: PM Carney to discuss trade at White House next week

Knuckle Ball

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Must be sarcasm I'm missing.

Carney can only answer media friendly questions and comes off cold and dismissive when asked tough ones.

Time is running out on him. The budget benchmark was set at -$68.5B, so he's scrambling to hit that number. He doesn't know what he's doing.
Why do you keep saying that time is running out? Carney just got elected; he has lots of time.

I’d like to see this get resolved too but I’m not sure what else he can do in that regard. In my view, Canada’s focus should be on developing new trading relationships anyhow and becoming less reliant on the US; so as far as I’m concerned I don’t really care how long these negotiations take.
 
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Why do you keep saying that time is running out? Carney just got elected; he has lots of time.

I’d like to see this get resolved too but I’m not sure what else he can do in that regard. In my view, Canada’s focus should be on developing new trading relationships anyhow and becoming less reliant on the US; so as far as I’m concerned I don’t really care how long these negotiations take.
Exactly, trump is imploding as we watch.
The dementia is getting out of control, the economy is screwed and he's becoming hated across the land.

Canada is doing fine and can wait him out.

 

HungSowel

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Plainly not true..He's just busting balls because he knows he can.
It must be pretty nice to have a clown as president who is willing to make jokes about colonizing your country. Maybe Chyna should do the same. I am sure you would see it as great entertainment value.

There must be a section in The Art of the Deal where you first insult and threaten those across the table from you, it leads to deals nobody thought possible.
 
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Why do you keep saying that time is running out? Carney just got elected; he has lots of time.

I’d like to see this get resolved too but I’m not sure what else he can do in that regard. In my view, Canada’s focus should be on developing new trading relationships anyhow and becoming less reliant on the US; so as far as I’m concerned I don’t really care how long these negotiations take.
He doesn't. Carney doesn't have majority gov. and shit isn't looking good.

Dude won't even give us a budget. Like what are we talking about here?
 
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What you perceive as folding is mental judo Carnie is using on Trump. The whole world is against Trump and wants him to go away. Carnie
has and obligation to the Canadian people. By opening discussions with Trump on tariffs is not giving in until an agreement is signed. Trump wants to take our whole country, his time is limited and Carnie knows it is waiting game. Due to Trump's tariffs, America has sold no soy to China this year. China has bought soy from Brazil. America now has a massive surplus of soy and many soy farmers that are in near bankruptcy. The huge surplus of American soy is being sold off at low prices, causing the world price of soy to plummet. China is getting cheap soy and Trump has hurt the American farmer. Trump is killing farms, businesses, jobs and the American economy. By early next summer there will be protest and people will tear Trump properties apart and farmers will be dumping manure at the White House.
Trump will be rendered powerless in the November 2026 mid term elections.
 
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I'm curious to know what more Trump is going to extort out of Carney.



Some of you said wait and give Carney time.

Nope, he's caught in a bind and time is running out.
What's Carney going to do? Nothing. I think Trudeau although a goof he and Freeland, did a better job fighting against Trump.
 

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Strongly disagree. He's made so many mistakes and is under delivering.

I'm just being nice right now, because I don't want to lay it on thick.

He was elected to fix the mess. Should have been scrambling in May.

Maybe he wasn't the best for the job? He's in a bind
You are like PP. He should have fixed everything by now. So HOW. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IT CAN BE DONE in 6m? 🤷‍♂️🤯🤪
 
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JohnLarue

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Why do you keep saying that time is running out? Carney just got elected; he has lots of time.

I’d like to see this get resolved too but I’m not sure what else he can do in that regard. In my view, Canada’s focus should be on developing new trading relationships anyhow and becoming less reliant on the US; so as far as I’m concerned I don’t really care how long these negotiations take.
clearly you do understand or care about the Canadian Economy

In 2024, Canadian exports of goods and services represented about 32.5% of Canada's GDP, according to the World Bank. Other recent estimates show exports accounting for a substantial portion of the economy, such as the Scotiabank report stating exports were roughly 34% of GDP in 2023
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3/4 of 32% of our GDP is at stake here

that is massive for an economy which grows 1% to 3% , with 3% being a great year

so yes there is some urgency to get a US deal done

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In my view, Canada’s focus should be on developing new trading relationships anyhow and becoming less reliant on the US
an unfulfilled fantasy which has been a goal of every government since confederation

again you are completely ignorant of the facts and reality
#1 any trade deal initiated now takes years/ decades to nurture / develop and grow
#2 Steven Harper signed a whole slew of trade deals over a decade ago, yet here we are now with a 76% export dependency on the US.
#3 any incremental trade that offsets some lost US trade will have significantly more shipping / logistical costs and likely lower margins
#4 Much of our exports are resourced based i.e. commodities and thus we have competition- want to sell more wheat to China ? the aussies are unlikely to just give up market share



our economy is starting to stall out
so no we can not afford to wait, we need a deal to reduce these tariffs

political
Carney ran on a promise that he was the man to go in ''elbows up and get a deal done with Trump'' , that was the centre piece of his fraudulent campaign

our economy is starting to stall out
Carney will know know that a nasty / painful recession is kryptonite for any incumbent politician, let alone one who miserably fails to deliver on recent campaign promises.
he has a razor thin minority
its a coin toss if his bloated budget will pass or trigger a non confidence vote

so there is urgency that is bearing on him and he is well aware of it.

you really do need to look outside of your government funded cacoon and realise the rest of the country does need a resolution to the tariff issue and needs it resolved soon.
 
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JohnLarue

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What you perceive as folding is mental judo Carnie is using on Trump. The whole world is against Trump and wants him to go away. Carnie
has and obligation to the Canadian people. By opening discussions with Trump on tariffs is not giving in until an agreement is signed. Trump wants to take our whole country, his time is limited and Carnie knows it is waiting game. Due to Trump's tariffs, America has sold no soy to China this year. China has bought soy from Brazil. America now has a massive surplus of soy and many soy farmers that are in near bankruptcy. The huge surplus of American soy is being sold off at low prices, causing the world price of soy to plummet. China is getting cheap soy and Trump has hurt the American farmer. Trump is killing farms, businesses, jobs and the American economy. By early next summer there will be protest and people will tear Trump properties apart and farmers will be dumping manure at the White House.
Trump will be rendered powerless in the November 2026 mid term elections.



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JohnLarue

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I don't understand what people can't see?

We already had one idiot rack up debt for 10 years, now we have another.
the left leaning loonies do not care about spending other peoples money

they need to feel the cold harse realty of a govt default to wake up
however they will rub their eyes and then try to blame the conservatives or capitalism
 
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the left leaning loonies do not care about spending other peoples money

they need to feel the cold harse realty of a govt default to wake up
however they will rub their eyes and then try to blame the conservatives or capitalism
because the Cons have been so good at not racking up debt...LOL!!! That's harse!
 
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JohnLarue

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because the Cons have been so good at not racking up debt...LOL!!! That's harse!

relative to the liberals they have
you are delusional if you think the electorate is not going to blame the liberals for the current state of the government finances and an imploding economy

Caney should have waited 4 years before seeking the PMs job
 
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Frankfooter

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the left leaning loonies do not care about spending other peoples money

they need to feel the cold harse realty of a govt default to wake up
however they will rub their eyes and then try to blame the conservatives or capitalism
Funny, conservatives always run debts and deficits.
Socialist democracies seem to do better.

DoFo is running a bigger debt now.
 
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