Carney platform promises $130B in new spending, deficits until 2029 :Heart Attack:

Butler1000

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Very simple, PP had riled up people who think like "hey I pay $400 and get 560 back how is that gonna reduce carbon duhhhhh. Why not just let me keep my 400? 🥱 Since no enough people were willing go understand or trust the govt, the political cost became too high. So it was cancelled. Every govt policy has a collateral cost, if that cost becomes too high the policy will be cancelled...EVEN if it is effective. Thats what you call DUMocracy.
So, it accomplished nothing, because as bver said earlier, it didn't lower things, and now you are telling me we should believe that the dodgy accounting meant people got more?

So what then was the point?

Why not just admit it was shitty policy?
 

Planner

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We need to spend to create economic value.
On healthcare.
On defence.
On home building.
Cutting taxes for billionaires and corporations like Pierre promises only puts money in the pockets of the rich.
So yes, good plan and good enough to vote in Carney.
Also, all of this is secondary to selecting a government that is ideologically opposed to the one in the US.
Not Pierre who leads a party representing people half of whom are MAGA loving quislings.
Voting for carney is just voting for Justin. Justin hand picked him. They’re both pieces of shit.
 

Skoob

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The fact that the moment Trudeau stepped down, the Libs took the lead in the polls suggests that voters were voting against Trudeau and not so much against the Liberal party.
No it wasn't the moment Trudeau stepped down. It was almost 3 months later. It was primarily based on the moment Trump said he was imposing tariffs and Carney fooled the Liberal flock into thinking he would shield Canada from any harm if they made him PM even though he wasn't elected and was a multi-national.
It was also the moment Carney started adopting Conservative platform items such as getting rid of the carbon tax, immigration control, etc.
 
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DesRicardo

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Like crooked Pee Pee is any better. He and his deputy have criticized Brookfield, but have investments in that Company.
Carney will steer Canada at this very challenging times, thanks to Trump's retarded tariffs.
Canada's economy is in better shape then it was in 2015, when the Conservatives left office. Harper screwed up the economy and left Canada still in a recession when he left office.
At least Canada were lucky to have The Liberals during the Pandemic as it was handled more responsibly than that of our neighbours down South!!
lol Criminal Carney was the boss at Brookfield. :ROFLMAO:

Carney owes China a favour, Is in bed with the WEF.

He will run up more debt than Trudeau and give the money to companies he has a vested interest in. It's not even hidden.

10 years of Liberal fuck ups and still making excuses. Grow up and be a man.
 
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musky guy

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Balloning debt is a falling knife. Promises to spend money we
don't have is how our leaders get elected. Deficit spending is
the way to maintain popularity. Will sheeple voters ever realize
they are on a joy ride to the day of reckoning.
have you noticed the legacy media really ramping up their anti polievre redderick as the polls tighten.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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No it wasn't the moment Trudeau stepped down. It was almost 3 months later. It was primarily based on the moment Trump said he was imposing tariffs and Carney fooled the Liberal flock into thinking he would shield Canada from any harm if they made him PM even though he wasn't elected and was a multi-national.
It was also the moment Carney started adopting Conservative platform items such as getting rid of the carbon tax, immigration control, etc.
Carney assumed office on March 14 and Trudeau was PM until then.
April, is the election.
A month later.
 

Skoob

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Very simple, PP had riled up people who think like "hey I pay $400 and get 560 back how is that gonna reduce carbon duhhhhh. Why not just let me keep my 400? 🥱 Since no enough people were willing go understand or trust the govt, the political cost became too high. So it was cancelled. Every govt policy has a collateral cost, if that cost becomes too high the policy will be cancelled...EVEN if it is effective. Thats what you call DUMocracy.
So you try and explain this by saying 1) people are dumb, and 2) that the policy made sense for 6 years until they were going to lose an election, so at that point the climate didn't matter.

Did I get that right?

Are people also dumb for believing the Liberals are actually telling the truth about anything?
 

Skoob

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Do you think that it requires a magic wand to make Climate Change go overnight?
We know that polluters around the Globe had the green signal to keep on polluting when the USA pulled out of the Paris Accord!!
Unless we all take action NOW, no doubt that we will go from the frying pan into the fire.
Otherwise, why did the Big Oil Corporations who did the Research tying up the emissions to Climate Change then decide to hide it under wraps?
6 years of people being forced to pay a carbon tax fixed the climate. The Liberals said so. That's why they are cancelling the carbon tax because it worked! Action was taken and mission accomplished!


Unless of course you believe they cancelled it because they were about to lose an election and the climate "concerns" took a back seat to that? Say it isn't so Bver!!!
 

nottyboi

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So you try and explain this by saying 1) people are dumb, and 2) that the policy made sense for 6 years until they were going to lose an election, so at that point the climate didn't matter.

Did I get that right?

Are people also dumb for believing the Liberals are actually telling the truth about anything?
The first job of any politician is to get elected so they can do what they think is right. Climate still matters and Carney has said that. The goals of the carbon tax will be achieved upstream in ways that are less efficient and cost more. That is what stupid gets you.🤷‍♂️
 

Skoob

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The first job of any politician is to get elected so they can do what they think is right. Climate still matters and Carney has said that. The goals of the carbon tax will be achieved upstream in ways that are less efficient and cost more. That is what stupid gets you.🤷‍♂️
So if their first job is getting elected, that explains why you're swallowing all the bs they are feeding you just to get your vote.

The carbon tax was a scam. They couldn't keep it going without risking losing the election so they cancelled it overnight.
They pivoted from the climate, to Trump...you are being played.
That's what the party you support is capable of doing.
 

Butler1000

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The first job of any politician is to get elected so they can do what they think is right. Climate still matters and Carney has said that. The goals of the carbon tax will be achieved upstream in ways that are less efficient and cost more. That is what stupid gets you.🤷‍♂️
So, then lie to voters about intentions?

It's that kind of elitism that people are voting against.
 

K Douglas

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The planet has warmed about 1.5ºC and CO2 is at around 430 ppm.
Those are the facts.

That's one third of an 'ice age unit' of temperature.
We are on track for 4ºC warming right now, which means the death of the majority of humans.
No we are not on track for 4°C warming. The linear trend is about 0.15°C/decade based on the global dataset of satellite records from Jan 1979- Mar 2025. And that pretty much agrees with what the trend is showing from the weather stations. In 1950 the average global temperature was 13.9°C and in 2024 it was 15.1°C. That's 1.2°C over 75 years which equates to 0.16°C per decade.

Stop with the alarmist crap and look at the facts.
 

nottyboi

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So, then lie to voters about intentions?

It's that kind of elitism that people are voting against.
Its not a lie, the intent is to reduce carbon, that has not changed. Other measures will be used to achieve the same goal. Less efficient measures.
 
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