Carney platform promises $130B in new spending, deficits until 2029 :Heart Attack:

bver_hunter

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Considering it's like half of what Carney will spend. Not much if at all.
There's a difference between Spending and Investment.
Majority of Canadians are not buying Pee Pee's total and utter BS!!
 

onomatopoeia

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Only Pee Pee's Government does that. Past Governments have had some budgets agreed by all parties.
Stop being childish!!
You've made it clear to me that you have nothing to say that is of interest to me. I'm going to add you to my Ignore list for that reason. Please don't expect a reply if you quote me again.
 

Skoob

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The problem was not with the party.
It was mostly with Trudeau and his performance.
That was remedied and most Canadians recognize that.
You think Trudeau single handedly made decisions without the support of his party for a decade? hahaha the brainwashing continues.

Look up the word "scapegoat" and come back to tell us what you have learned.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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You think Trudeau single handedly made decisions without the support of his party for a decade? hahaha the brainwashing continues.

Look up the word "scapegoat" and come back to tell us what you have learned.
The buck stops with the Prime Minister.
So yes, the PM chooses people within his party that execute his agenda and policies.
They are not a hive mind.
Going by your rule atleast a minority of the CPC are extreme far right.
That means everyone including Pierre share those beliefs. Right?
So we should not vote them in.
Either way you lose this argument. lmao.
 

boobtoucher

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Tax credits to businesses who improve their infrastructure to be more green. In other words stop charging poor people and go after real polluters with a carrot instead of a stick.
But what measure would you use to determine if they are "more green". Surely you're not tying tax rebates to carbon output? Like some kind of Carbon Tax Credit?
 

rhuarc29

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Balloning debt is a falling knife. Promises to spend money we
don't have is how our leaders get elected. Deficit spending is
the way to maintain popularity. Will sheeple voters ever realize
they are on a joy ride to the day of reckoning.
Unlikely. Half of Canadians report living paycheck to paycheck. Some of them are certainly there due to circumstances outside their control, but the majority of them are choosing to operate in such a fiscal situation by spending beyond their means. If they can't balance their own books, are they really going to hold the government to it?
 

boobtoucher

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Unlikely. Half of Canadians report living paycheck to paycheck. Some of them are certainly there due to circumstances outside their control, but the majority of them are choosing to operate in such a fiscal situation by spending beyond their means. If they can't balance their own books, are they really going to hold the government to it?
Can you back this up with anything that's not anecdotal?
 

Butler1000

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But what measure would you use to determine if they are "more green". Surely you're not tying tax rebates to carbon output? Like some kind of Carbon Tax Credit?
To equipment upgrades. You know, like home tax credits?

Carbon taxes are a scam. And worse they say it's ok to pollute and pay for it. Better to do tax credits fir equipment, then gradually regulated to require the upgrades allowing time to adjust, while requiring new businesses to comply.
 

K Douglas

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Tell us how Pee Pee is going to address Climate change?
The climate changes regardless of what amount of CO2 humans produce. Its been that way for billions of years.
The best response to climate change is to mitigate through preparation and adaptation. Stop developing so much on the waterfront which in Toronto for example has caused increased flood damage to low lying areas by the lake.
 

K Douglas

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To equipment upgrades. You know, like home tax credits?

Carbon taxes are a scam. And worse they say it's ok to pollute and pay for it. Better to do tax credits fir equipment, then gradually regulated to require the upgrades allowing time to adjust, while requiring new businesses to comply.
In Canada we have a government program called SR&ED. I'd look at revamping that program and expanding it to help foster innovation, particularly as it relates to environmental technologies. Canada's rates of innovation have lagged modern economies for decades because of the ineffectiveness/lack of marketing of the tax credits available.
 

rhuarc29

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Can you back this up with anything that's not anecdotal?
I'm kind of puzzled about which part of my post you think is anecdotal. The part about living paycheck to paycheck? I assure you, I didn't canvas my inner circle to come up with that.

 

bver_hunter

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You've made it clear to me that you have nothing to say that is of interest to me. I'm going to add you to my Ignore list for that reason. Please don't expect a reply if you quote me again.
Like you have stated anything that is factual. We can put one another on ignore. Will not miss your rightie POVs!!
 

onomatopoeia

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How Does Canada's Huge Debt Compare to Other Countries?


Canadian debt as a proportion of the economy has fallen a little since the pandemic but still weighed in at a hefty 106% of GDP in 2024, according to the IMF. And at 9.3% of government income the same year, the share of government revenue it gobbles up has been steadily increasing.

To put a cash figure on it, in 2023, the federal government spent the equivalent of $32.5 billion (£25.7bn) on servicing its debt – around half as much again as the $21.8 billion (£17.2bn) that it spent on childcare benefits. This would not have included the interest that provincial and territorial governments paid on their own debts.


So we're paying more than $32 billion dollars per year in interest to creditors on previous Federal government borrowing, and that's going to continue to rise. That doesn't include Provincial and Municipal debt. I'm sure glad that I'm not young.
 

bver_hunter

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More crooked Liberal accounting.

Debt is Debt.
The Conservatives are not to be trusted in anyway. They will push Canada into a deeper recession no doubt!!
 

bver_hunter

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The climate changes regardless of what amount of CO2 humans produce. Its been that way for billions of years.
The best response to climate change is to mitigate through preparation and adaptation. Stop developing so much on the waterfront which in Toronto for example has caused increased flood damage to low lying areas by the lake.
Climate change as a result of human emissions has exacerbated Climate change to an extent that several Nations are now feeling the pinch.
If this is not fully addressed globally then we can expect our children and grandchildren to be negatively impacted in the not too distant future.
The Toronto Waterfront has a huge concrete infrastructure that cannot cope with the heavy precipitation during the heavy rainstorms as compared to the more rural waterfront regions!!
 
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