Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Did you miss what investigators said??

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot

Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved With Transgender, Antifascist Ideology: Sources

Investigators found ammunition
engraved with transgender and antifascist ideology inside the rifle, sources said. Justice Department officials cautioned that the investigation was still in its preliminary stages.
Maybe a decoy. Maybe not. Who knows.
After Luigi now engraving stuff on bullets seems to be the next awful trend.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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I am actually more moderate on gun control issues in the U.S.
I presume Canada has stricter gun laws. I'm curious. Would Canada's gun laws have prevented this assassination?
A variety of Canadian laws, political and social norms would generally prevent this sort of violence.
We have hate speech laws, stricter gun laws and a stronger, less corrupt democracy.
 
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A variety of Canadian laws, political and social norms would generally prevent this sort of violence.
We have hate speech laws, stricter gun laws and a stronger, less corrupt democracy.
I think your answer is too abstract and politicizing.

I'm specifically addressing the legality of owning this specific gun in Canada.
It seems to me Canadians argue for more U.S. gun control every time there is a shooting.

It's not enough to say we Canadians can own that gun, but we can't take it off our property or outside legalized hunting areas.
An assassin doesn't care about the law.
 
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He started out with some bullshit saying Trudeau should be deported and Alberta should secede and become their own country. Zero sympathy for this smug asshole getting packed doing the things he loved. Being a racist transphobic asshole
Chill.......pour yourself a Moly.
 
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I think your answer is too abstract and politicizing.

I'm specifically addressing the legality of owning this specific gun in Canada.
It seems to me Canadians argue for more U.S. gun control every time there is a shooting.

It's not enough to say we can own that gun, but we can't take it off our property or legalized hunting areas.
A shooter doesn't care about the law.
I'm extremely anti-gun, and even I think the US is beyond repair on guns. No government will ever succeed in removing hundreds of millions of guns in the country at this point. I remember a tweet after Sandy Hook that summarized it all for me - when beautiful little white children were mowed down, America did nothing. If that couldn't get the US to wake up, nothing would, and it's been proven correct time and time again.
 

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He started out with some bullshit saying Trudeau should be deported and Alberta should secede and become their own country. Zero sympathy for this smug asshole getting packed doing the things he loved. Being a racist transphobic asshole
The energy some people put out into the world will surely come back to flatten them
It’s only a matter of time and timing. Hallelujah for that!
 
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Nah, I try not to read too deeply into things but you're free to find it ironic if you like. 🤷‍♂️
Conservatives: youth criminal justice act! Bail reform! Hug a thug!

But you have a criminal record which disqualifies you from immigrating to the United States. Now I haven’t and won’t go through your comment history but if you’ve ever said things along the lines above then you’re a hypocrite.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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I think your answer is too abstract and politicizing.

I'm specifically addressing the legality of owning this specific gun in Canada.
It seems to me Canadians argue for more U.S. gun control every time there is a shooting.

It's not enough to say we Canadians can own that gun, but we can't take it off our property or outside legalized hunting areas.
An assassin doesn't care about the law.
You've said it yourself.
Stronger gun control laws.
And reduced access to these weapons as we cannot walk into a Walmart and buy high powered rifles.
The reduced access to weapons, the fact that owning guns is a privilege and not a right, the stronger gun control laws, make it less likely for a shooter to access and use these weapons.
Which is why we don't have these instances happening in Canada.
Also the proliferation of these weapons and the gun culture in the US has destroyed public safety.
The "criminals don't care about laws" argument doesn't hold up in this case.
We have criminals too.
But strangely our criminals don't do things like this. Wonder why.
 

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Why would the FSB give a shit about Charlie Kirk? he was a Trump loyalist and an effective mobilizer for Trump. So if Trump has ties to the Kremlin why would they kill a Trump supporter. Its too far from an election to make a move like that
That's what it's supposed to look like if the aim is to foment a civil war. Trump has a great talent for creating discord, he did it again with his speech blaming leftist crazies for Kirk's murder. If the killer isn't found, the rage-hate will get more intense, eventually the shooting will start.

 
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As usual the extreme right wing conspiracy theorists are back in action over this whole tragic affair:

Toronto man wakes from nap to find himself falsely accused online of killing Charlie Kirk
“I was sort of shocked,” said the 77-year-old Toronto man who was wrongly accused on social media of killing Kirk.

Michael Mallinson, a 77-year-old retired banker, awoke from a nap in his Toronto home around 6 p.m. Wednesday. He had not been following the news. He had never heard of an American right-wing activist named Charlie Kirk.
It was then that Mallinson received a panicked call from his daughter. He had been accused, his daughter told him, of assassinating Kirk at an outdoor debate on the Utah Valley University campus in Orem, Utah. His daughter had already received hate messages on Facebook. She told Mallinson to delete his accounts.
“I was sort of shocked,” Mallinson told the Star Thursday morning, back home from his morning rowing session and getting ready to follow up with Toronto police about the mistaken identity case. “It’s a bit of a tempest in a teapot, but there could be longer-term ramifications.”

Mallinson was wrongly identified in a deluge of social media posts as a registered Democrat in Utah who shot Kirk, apparently because of his likeness to a man who videos appear to show was detained by police after the shooting.

The misinformation was at least partly spread by an X account impersonating a Fox TV station in Reno, Nevada. In a since-deleted post, the account said Mallinson was confirmed as the shooter.
“If it was AI who identified that,” Mallinson said, “it’s AI that I think is not very sophisticated.”
In a statement to the Star, the Sinclair Broadcast Group, which owns the Fox station, said the post “originates from a fraudulent account impersonating the station.” It said it was working to get the account taken down.
Police were still searching Wednesday for the person who shot and killed Kirk, 31, the CEO of conservative youth organization Turning Point USA and a close ally of U.S. President Donald Trump. Announcing Kirk’s death on social media, Trump said Kirk was “great, and even legendary.” Later, in a video, Trump called Kirk a martyr and blamed the rhetoric of the “radical left” for his killing.
On Thursday, authorities said they found the rifle used in the shooting in a wooded area near the university campus and released photos of the suspect.

Mallinson said he had “no idea” where his connection to the shooting came from. The photo of him being circulated came from an old Twitter account he closed when Elon Musk bought the platform, Mallinson said.
Heeding his daughter’s advice, Mallinson deactivated his social media accounts. He had already received some hate messages by then.
Mallinson said he uses Facebook as a patient advocate for those with axial spondyloarthritis, which he also has. He ran the Canadian Spondyloarthritis Association for 11 years and also volunteered with the Axial Spondyloarthritis International Federation. He attended conferences around the world and used social media to stay connected with friends.
He said he’s already had friends from England, Poland and India reach out, “expressing surprise and concern that this has happened.”
Mallinson’s daughter spoke with Toronto police yesterday and Mallinson is following up with them today.
“The worrisome thing is once it’s out there, there’s so many crackpots in the world, who knows who might get hold of this,” he said. “This is what my family is most concerned about — some crackpot just doing something or saying something in the future.”
Mallinson said he hopes it blows over quickly.
“I am just bemused that it’s happened,” he said. “Out of all the billions of people on earth, it happened to me.”


Now that the weapon used in this shooting has been recovered, no doubt that the cops will eventually trace it to the individual involved. This is unless it was purchased illegally, or stolen!!
 

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