How sad. Next you're going to complain that the military is allowed to own LAWs but you're not.Conservation Officers are culling wolves in BC with assault...er..."patrol" rifles.
Rules for thee, not for me.
2 cops shot dead in Innisfil
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But it does shit all over your argument about semi-autos being detrimental to hunting; when Conservation Officers are issued assault...er..."patrol" rifles, with "high capacity" magazines. What do they "need" those for, unleashing rapid fire on an injured deer?
So much for aiming and taking irresponsible shots. If liberals didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
Warrant Officer Snipers go after moving targets that have the ability to shoot back, not deer. Again, you don't know anything about shooting or aiming because of your uneducated comment about what's known as a follow up shot. EVERY shot taken at a moving object you want to take down is an aimed deliberate shot. As well, shooters HOLD for windage and ranging and DIAL for elevation. No one, and I mean no one can accurately dial a turret while tracking a target faster than they can cycle the bolt. Since you've done neither, you wouldn't know that of course.
You're the one that needs a lesson in aiming and shooting from an instructor, not me. It's pretty obvious who goes out and shoots, makes mistakes, gets coaching, learns, practices and trys again and who sits behind a keyboard and doesn't do anything but make up scenarios with perfect outcomes because they are a fantasy.
Got any more shooting tips that are contrary to reality?
Every time you post, you post something wrong. Every single time.
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You're trying to reason with someone who loves his soapbox. Doubt he ever fired a gun in his life. Even Navy SEALS don't always hit their target on the first shot.
Guys please do yourselves a favor and stop arguing with basketcase. No clue what he is talking about.
Is your argument is that the government always chooses the most efficient solution? If so, I'm sure you'd support a gun registry including striation patterns.
So why do you keep bringing this up in regards to hunting?
And are you admitting that when you miss an animal with your first shot, you just keep shooting as it runs away? I really hope you at least take the time to be aware of other hunters or hikers in the woods.
BTW, here's what Canadian military sniper use.
C15A2 .50 Calibre Long Range Sniper Weapon - Canada.ca
The C15A2 .50 Calibre Sniper Rifle is the designated Long Range Sniper Weapon (LRSW) for the Canadian Forces. The C15 series of rifle has been in service since 2000, but began being updated to the A2 variant in 2017.
Are you going to explain why a semiautomatic rifle is a better choice for hunters than a bolt action or are you just going to whine like the rest?
There is no clear cut answer. Some hunters prefer a semi, and some others prefer a single bolt.
Each type of rifle has its advantages and disadvantages.
Read and learn: https://www.offthegridnews.com/survival-hunting/bolt-action-or-semi-auto-which-is-best-for-hunting/
And what exactly are the advantages to using a semi-auto rifle for hunting under Canadian laws? I've suggested that they are less accurate (in the same price range) and that the ability to immediately fire a second hurriedly aimed shot while hunting has no real benefit (and creates a risk to anyone else out in the woods). On the other hand, a semi-auto creates more risk to people like the cops in Innisfil as there is less time between rounds fired. If they aren't any more useful (and perhaps less useful) but more dangerous, there's no justification for them being allowed.
The SKS used in this shooting was designed as a military rifle so it's no surprise that it makes a good choice to kill people.
p.s. Your article lists higher capacity, less recoil, and faster firing as the advantages of a semi. The capacity argument is irrelevant under Canadian law and the faster firing has almost no advantage unless you're being charged by a herd of rabid lemmings. On the other side, " In short, bolt-action rifles are very accurate, dependable, have smoother triggers, and come with more options in terms of caliber and stocks than most semi-automatic rifles. "
But thank you for at least taking the time to make an argument unlike the gunners here.
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Just by your answer . I know you are not a hunter . Many use a semi because they may miss the first shot . So shoot a second time . Most people hunt in a group . They plan where they will be so you are not shooting towards others in you party . Pretty well everyone wears high visibility vest . A Browning semi is just as deadly as the SKS .
If people want to kill . There are many easier ways then a gun . Just look at Toronto . A van was used to kill and injure how many ? Renting a van much simpler then finding a gun .
You must be one of those "violence is never the answer" types. By now, you have lived long enough to know that's absurd.
Because there's no difference. The marksmanship principles are the same no matter what the target, but since you've never shot anything in your life, of course you don't know that.So why do you keep bringing this up in regards to hunting?
And are you admitting that when you miss an animal with your first shot, you just keep shooting as it runs away? I really hope you at least take the time to be aware of other hunters or hikers in the woods.
BTW, here's what Canadian military sniper use.
They must have made a mistake when they listed it as bolt action thoughC15A2 .50 Calibre Long Range Sniper Weapon - Canada.ca
The C15A2 .50 Calibre Sniper Rifle is the designated Long Range Sniper Weapon (LRSW) for the Canadian Forces. The C15 series of rifle has been in service since 2000, but began being updated to the A2 variant in 2017.www.canada.ca
Now you're an expert on the Canadian military? Unbeliveable. Don't tell me what the Canadian Forces use. You're the one who doesn't know and you don't know what a sniper does.
Snipers use a variety of rifles.
There's the Colt C7CT, Armalite AR10, C20 DMR, HK PSG1 and Barrett M82A1. All of them are Semi Autos.
So 5 out of 8 sniper rifles used by the Canadian Forces are SEMI AUTOMATIC.
List of equipment of the Canadian Army - Wikipedia
Now you've also proved you don't know anything about the Canadian Army. You have no idea how the military deploys their equipment, so stop pretending you know what you're talking about.
Every time you post, you're wrong. EVERY SINGLE TIME!
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As has already been explained to you, some people are better marksmen than others. Thats why some prefer to hunt with a semi instead of a single bolt.
And the government has apparently ruled its legal to hunt with a semi. So whether you like it or not, thats currently the law
FYI the most popular sniper rifle in the world is the Barrett M82, which is a semi-automatic rifleSo why do you keep bringing this up in regards to hunting?
And are you admitting that when you miss an animal with your first shot, you just keep shooting as it runs away? I really hope you at least take the time to be aware of other hunters or hikers in the woods.
BTW, here's what Canadian military sniper use.
They must have made a mistake when they listed it as bolt action thoughC15A2 .50 Calibre Long Range Sniper Weapon - Canada.ca
The C15A2 .50 Calibre Sniper Rifle is the designated Long Range Sniper Weapon (LRSW) for the Canadian Forces. The C15 series of rifle has been in service since 2000, but began being updated to the A2 variant in 2017.
Top 10 Sniper Rifles | Military-Today.com
List of 10 best sniper rifles in the world. Which is the best sniper rifle? What are the top modern sniper rifles? This is analysis of top 10 best sniper rifles in the world.
www.military-today.com
I've never hid the fact I don't find hunting an enjoyable past time.
Do you really fire multiple rounds that quickly at a fleeing animal? Seems pretty reckless and not the kind of things the hunters I know aspire to.
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Nice strawman. But why should I rely on the actual government site to see why weapons the Canadian military uses.
Your whole argument about what the military does which just reinforces my suspicion that you're more interested in the feeling the gun gives you than the actual use of them.
And you never answered whether your warrant officer would endorse hurriedly reacquired shots on a moving animal in an unsecured hunting area.
Did you read the site because the stated purpose of that rifle is to destroy equipment and vehicles which tend to be larger and easier to hit than human targets. Everything else on that list is bolt action.
Since you're too lazy to use the internet. It's a chronic problem with you.
C20 - Colt Canada
Not once have I ever talked about the feeling a gun gives me. A gun is a tool. Plain and simple. I pick the tool that will be the most effective for the task. Want to shoot CMP 22? Best rifle is a semi automatic because quick follow up shots outweigh the 5 second longer time given for bolt actions. Shooting speed steel? Steel pistol instead of polymer for better recoil management. Varmint hunting? Semi auto because you want to eliminate a pest, not catch a trophy. Every single post I have made has to do with the proper use and purpose of the firearm, and not about my rights, ownership and self protection. But what do I know as someone who has passed all the courses, has the proper licenses, identification and actively shoots, versus a keyboard warrior who doesn't know what he's talking about?
As stated before, that Warrant Officer is a Master Sniper. Since you don't know what they do, I'll tell you. A small fraction of their job is to eliminate threats. And they do that with as many rounds that are required to eliminate it be it moving, non moving, alive or inert. Want to know something else? They make mistakes because unlike you, they are actually out doing it in situations where they can't control all the external factors and the psychological pressures, unlike you who can always have a one shot perfect outcome because it's only happening in your imagination.
It's ironic you're calling me a strawman when it's been proven you're a fraud and you've never done anything to test your limits, mentally or physically, yet you're an expert on how to shoot, hunt and firearms. Next time I need advice from someone who has never flown an airplane on how to operate a Cessna 172, I'll come to you.
Instead of sitting behind a keyboard, get a job, spend some money, take the proper courses and actually learn something about what you hate, because everyone can see you're ignorant on the topic. But you won't, because you'd actually find out how wrong you are. You got a criminal record or domestic violence history that would stop you from ever owning one, or do you have certified mental health issues that would gong you?
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