4.20&c36

[Fallsguy]

I heard Mark Emory, the "King of pot" as he is often disparagingly referred to by the media, being interviewed on CBC radio.
I found myself shouting agreement at the radio over and over.
He is an articulate well spoken guy.
He tied in the government's attitude to marijuana laws and its' whole get tough on crime agenda with Bill C36. He said for the Conservatives the world's divided into sinners and believers, and the sinners have to be punished. He said that's what C36 is all about, prostitutes and their johns are sinners and must be punished.
He also said the Cons are playing to their base, which sees the world in black and white. It only numbers about 100,000, he said, but they have the money. Emory referred to this base as ageing, and unsophisticated.
He also referred to Canada's politicians as being "gutless" (again full agreement here!), because neither the Liberals or the NDP will come out and support him. I would be proud to have him run for my party.
I'm not a pot user and I've never "inhaled", but as Voltaire once said, "I may disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
This guy spent four years in prison for his beliefs while the politcal class remained silent, and our governing party actually helped put him there. He's no criminal, he's a national hero.

 

[diehard]

Right on!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck Adolf Harper.

 

[johnhenrygalt]

He said for the Conservatives the world's divided into sinners and believers,

He may be articulate, but if that's what he said, he's either an idiot or a liar.

 

[squeezer]

He may be articulate, but if that's what he said, he's either an idiot or a liar.

This regime is born from the Reform Party and he's dead on in his description of Harper's party. They need to be decimated in 2015 to show evangelists and abolitionist that Canadian's will not put up with their bullshit.

 

[onthebottom]

Harper followed the socialist feminist Northern Euro model, to blame it on conservatism is silly/ignorant.

 

[squeezer]

Banning postitution and for that matter drugs isn't exactly an evangelist only thing. Just as the right is split between the jebus freaks and the libertarianish the left is split between the women and only women should be able to do anything they want vs the men are evil and they should never be able to enjoy themselves factions on the C36.
In the center for ever live and let live there is the Johns are cheating losers and prostititues are gross. IIRC even Justin truedooh! is a fan of the old banhammer on the industry.

But hey, if you don't believe me, tell your employer and your neighbours about your hobby. Go ahead, I don't see how that could go wrong.

To see C36 as some sort of fundie thing is just wrong and I am sure it has been brought up over and over. Canadians love telling other Canadians how to live their lives. Like most people.

The support right wing at all cost side always bring up the misinformation about the center and left not supporting decriminalization but again what Francois Boivin (NDP) and Sean Casey (Liberals) are saying is exactly this. They are NOT in support of the bill and I don't see anywhere Justin or Mulcair trying to whip them into agreeing with the Nordic model!

 

[TeasePlease]

I've been thinking about 420 and C36 quite a bit lately. What a coincidence.

It occurs to me that the Lefties (and I include Libs in that) are supportive of "self-indulgent" activities. They are quite happy to let the citizenry partake in "harmless" recreational pasttimes. They also encourage reliance upon the government through massive social nets (Ontario pension plan anyone?) They are happy to endorse "individualism" and individual rights as long as it doesn't infringe on the collective good (as they define it).

On the other hand, the Righties condemn self-indulgence and reliance on government. Rather, they support things like firearms and self-sufficiency (including in finances). They are happy to endorse "individualism" and individual rights as long as it meets their moral agenda.

What a load of crap. I guess we just have to pick the party that least offends us.

 

[squeezer]

Neither Boivin nor Casey are party leaders. Also 2 [are they even in the shadow cabinate?] MPs out of almost 150. Please.

Also the support right wing at all cost. It ain't me brah. I am just opposed to stupid. Thus I don't vote. Odd that. I suppose support the left wing at all cost is OK but when the other side does it it is bad. And people wonder why I avoid political movements.

The point is Casey and Boivin were the opposition's representatives in the committee hearings and did their best to point out how ridiculous this law is.

As for supporting the left wing or any party I personally do not. I believe most politicians of every stripe are in it for themselves and throw common sense out the window as soon as they get into power. They all follow party ideology as opposed to what is best for the country and it's citizens.

The issue here is this particular government in power now is attempting to make criminals out of consensual adults. Everyone and anyone who in any way pays for sexual gratification should be up in arms and voting against this regime.

I was in a federal government office yesterday and seen a huge poster on the wall asking if anyone is a victim of human trafficking to call this number. Talk about the propaganda machine out in full force.

 

[elise]

The point is Casey and Boivin were the opposition's representatives in the committee hearings and did their best to point out how ridiculous this law is.

As for supporting the left wing or any party I personally do not. I believe most politicians of every stripe are in it for themselves and throw common sense out the window as soon as they get into power. They all follow party ideology as opposed to what is best for the country and it's citizens.

The issue here is this particular government in power now is attempting to make criminals out of consensual adults. Everyone and anyone who in any way pays for sexual gratification should be up in arms and voting against this regime.

I was in a federal government office yesterday and seen a huge poster on the wall asking if anyone is a victim of human trafficking to call this number. Talk about the propaganda machine out in full force.

Just like you said they are in it for themselves.
The sad truth is that those that truly support pay 4 play are a minuscule minority in both the country and in ANY political party. They only fein opposition because they think it will help their position in achieving their self interest goals of getting into power.

 

[squeezer]

Just like you said they are in it for themselves.
The sad truth is that those that truly support pay 4 play are a minuscule minority in both the country and in ANY political party. They only fein opposition because they think it will help their position in achieving their self interest goals of getting into power.

I really believe more pay for it through a stripper, mpa or Sp more than we think and many do not realize what is going on with Bill 36. The problem is most will not or can't go around claiming they pay for sex instead say the opposite.

 

[Fallsguy]

I hate the Conservatives and I always have. Before C36 it was nothing personal, but now it is.
I will do whatever I can in the next election to defeat them. I know I'm just one person and they're hardly shaking in their boots because of me. But my voice is the voice of millions and if every concerned Canadian does something in the next election, anything, to help defeat this contemptable collection of human garbage it will make a difference. The Cons depend on us feeling alone and helpless, like their is nothing we can do. Let's surprise them.

 

[TeasePlease]

I really believe more pay for it through a stripper, mpa or Sp more than we think and many do not realize what is going on with Bill 36. The problem is most will not or can't go around claiming they pay for sex instead say the opposite.

That's precisely it.

But money talks. I'm cognizant of firearms owners who started a campaign on a particular issue (a recent reclassification of a popular rifle to prohibited status). They wrote to their MPs and included a cheque for $10 or $100....with a note saying that if the reclassification were repealed, they pledged to send in another cheque for $100 or $1,000. Guess what? It worked.

Imagine if even 25% of Terb sent letters/cheques to the Libs or Dippers.

We wouldn't even miss it. We drop at least bill every time we get wood.

 

[squeezer]

That's precisely it.

But money talks. I'm cognizant of firearms owners who started a campaign on a particular issue (a recent reclassification of a popular rifle to prohibited status). They wrote to their MPs and included a cheque for $10 or $100....with a note saying that if the reclassification were repealed, they pledged to send in another cheque for $100 or $1,000. Guess what? It worked.

Imagine if even 25% of Terb sent letters/cheques to the Libs or Dippers.

We wouldn't even miss it. We drop at least bill every time we get wood.

Excellent idea!!

 

[MattRoxx]

I heard Mark Emory, the "King of pot" as he is often disparagingly referred to by the media, being interviewed on CBC radio.
I found myself shouting agreement at the radio over and over.
He is an articulate well spoken guy.
He tied in the government's attitude to marijuana laws and its' whole get tough on crime agenda with Bill C36. He said for the Conservatives the world's divided into sinners and believers, and the sinners have to be punished. He said that's what C36 is all about, prostitutes and their johns are sinners and must be punished.
He also said the Cons are playing to their base, which sees the world in black and white. It only numbers about 100,000, he said, but they have the money. Emory referred to this base as ageing, and unsophisticated.
He also referred to Canada's politicians as being "gutless" (again full agreement here!), because neither the Liberals or the NDP will come out and support him. I would be proud to have him run for my party.
I'm not a pot user and I've never "inhaled", but as Voltaire once said, "I may disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
This guy spent four years in prison for his beliefs while the politcal class remained silent, and our governing party actually helped put him there. He's no criminal, he's a national hero.

Not Mark, Marc
Not Emory, Emery.
And Marc Emery is the PRINCE of pot not the king. Alliteration, mofo, do you speak it! LOL. Where have you ever even seen this "king of pot" title being used.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1111821/

Anyway it is basic right-wing doctrine to make as many people as possible into criminals. And any activity they don't approve should be made illegal.
Since the overall crime rate is dropping Harper has decided to make more activities illegal, so there will instantly be more "criminals".

 

[onthebottom]

Not Mark, Marc
Not Emory, Emery.
And Marc Emery is the PRINCE of pot not the king. Alliteration, mofo, do you speak it! LOL. Where have you ever even seen this "king of pot" title being used.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1111821/

Anyway it is basic right-wing doctrine to make as many people as possible into criminals. And any activity they don't approve should be made illegal.
Since the overall crime rate is dropping Harper has decided to make more activities illegal, so there will instantly be more "criminals".

By following a socialist feminist Northern Euro precedent?

 

[wilbur]

Well, I voted Conservative the last couple of times because of the firearms issue. The Liberal position was a red flag: the nanny state with the lowest common denominator, that everybody out there is stupid and needs to be protected from themselves.

Now we have the Conservative notion of the Nanny state: that the state wants the right to dictate people's morals under penalty of throwing them in jail.

I'm sorry, but the latter issue trumps my freedom to own semi-auto firearms. However, it's encouraging that the Liberals seemed to have changed their position on gun control. That the harassment of licensed gun owners and the gradual confiscation of firearms causes a greater loss of votes than a gain in votes: a significant negative cost-benefit of seats in the HoC (60 seats according to Wayne Easter, MP).

If Wayne Easter can keep rabid Gun Grabbers like Adam Vaughan in check, then the Liberals will likely get my vote. The one negative aspect of the Liberals is that Justin is nothing but a piece of fluff. But hopefully, the backroom boys can keep him in control by controlling his teleprompter.

 

[TeasePlease]

Well, I voted Conservative the last couple of times because of the firearms issue. The Liberal position was a red flag: the nanny state with the lowest common denominator, that everybody out there is stupid and needs to be protected from themselves.

Now we have the Conservative notion of the Nanny state: that the state wants the right to dictate people's morals under penalty of throwing them in jail.

I'm sorry, but the latter issue trumps my freedom to own semi-auto firearms. However, it's encouraging that the Liberals seemed to have changed their position on gun control. That the harassment of licensed gun owners and the gradual confiscation of firearms causes a greater loss of votes than a gain in votes: a significant negative cost-benefit of seats in the HoC (60 seats according to Wayne Easter, MP).

If Wayne Easter can keep rabid Gun Grabbers like Adam Vaughan in check, then the Liberals will likely get my vote. The one negative aspect of the Liberals is that Justin is nothing but a piece of fluff. But hopefully, the backroom boys can keep him in control by controlling his teleprompter.

What are you talking about? JT is on record having voted to keep the long gun registry and has said that if there was a vote to bring it back, he'd support it. The Libs are also supportive of pistol bans and restricted ammo sales in urban centres.

 

[squeezer]

HoC (60 seats according to Wayne Easter, MP).

The one negative aspect of the Liberals is that Justin is nothing but a piece of fluff. But hopefully, the backroom boys can keep him in control by controlling his teleprompter.

I too will be holding my nose as I mark an X for Justin but I hate Harper and Mackay more.

What are you talking about? JT is on record having voted to keep the long gun registry and has said that if there was a vote to bring it back, he'd support it. The Libs are also supportive of pistol bans and restricted ammo sales in urban centres.

The gun issue is a debate among the Liberal Party based on this article and it's the young Liberals pushing for a tougher stance on guns which I agree if they want to get into power they need to lighten up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/02/21/liberal-convention-policy-guns-crime_n_4827347.html

 

[Fallsguy]

Not Mark, Marc
Not Emory, Emery.
And Marc Emery is the PRINCE of pot not the king. Alliteration, mofo, do you speak it! LOL. Where have you ever even seen this "king of pot" title being used.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1111821/

Anyway it is basic right-wing doctrine to make as many people as possible into criminals. And any activity they don't approve should be made illegal.
Since the overall crime rate is dropping Harper has decided to make more activities illegal, so there will instantly be more "criminals".

Yes, you're right, I realized after I posted that I had badly misspelled his name, and again, yes it's the Prince of Pot, he isn't King yet. My mistake.

 

[Keepingitreal]

I believe most politicians of every stripe are in it for themselves and throw common sense out the window as soon as they get into power. They all follow party ideology as opposed to what is best for the country and it's citizens.

This is one of the biggest problems in politics, most are self serving, doing what they can to help themselves and their benefactors.