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A Great Night For Democrats: Referendum On Trump

Shaquille Oatmeal

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The Schumer shutdown is over...lefties can pound sand...LMAO...Who caved? 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 they folded like cheap lawn chairs...
Yes the Dems caved.
So while you enjoy these small vicarious pleasures of life, don't forget....like EVER forget, that you live in your glorious 4th liberal term and make sure to pull your big boy pants up and get ready for your 5th. lmfao.
 
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WyattEarp

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It's likely going to cost Schumer his seat in the primary.
Schumer was done before the shutdown for a variety of reasons including age.

AOC will be the Democratic nominee for the NY U.S. Senate seat if she wants it.
I say nominee because I think Mamdani could change the calculus for winning NY State.
Upstate Dems are more moderate. There are still many, many NY City Dems that are as well.
 
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Butler1000

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Schumer was done before the shutdown for a variety of reasons including age.

AOC will be the Democratic nominee for the NY U.S. Senate seat if she wants it.
I say nominee because I think Mamdani could change the calculus for winning NY State.
Upstate Dems are more moderate. There are still many, many NY City Dems that are as well.
It's only going to get worse in the nation. When the bubbles burst its going to get ugly.
 

jalimon

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The owners/shareholders had their say.
They have decided that one person was a critical piece to the company.

I didn't look at how the pay package was structured. How much was guaranteed vs. performance. Basically, because I presume shareholders vote in their best economic interest.
Whiteheart the gage on your inside 'shit-o-meter' reference is so damn high!!
 

WyattEarp

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This is tangential and not a response to my post.
Sure it was. I called out Canada and Germany for consensus policies that resulted in poor results. Statism is defined as centralization and control.

Pierre Trudeau and Angela Merkel were once darlings here and represented the "consensus" policies of each country.

That's a valid opinion. You can hold a different opinion.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Sure it was. I called out Canada and Germany for consensus policies that resulted in poor results.
Consensus and compromise in a democracy, is necessary and does not lead to poor results.
It leads to practical policies that cater to the vast diversity of the country, as opposed to benefitting a few.
Statism is defined as centralization and control.
Which is a prominent feature of authoritarian and fascist kakistocracies like the United States under Trump.
They are incapable of doing right by people and create political strife which feeds back into the system to enable more authoritarianism while further eroding democratic values.
 

WyattEarp

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So it was a forgone conclusion after three months of campaigning to convince people when they were two to one against it to start?
But that doesn't count as a big win because anything the Democrats actually try to change people's mind on automatically happens?
I never knew you thought so highly of the Democratic propaganda machine
I believe the poll you were referencing was before Texas redistricted (August 29) and California followed Texas' legislature concurrently (August 21). Unlike ourselves, most people even Californians aren't following these developments until they are enacted and put in front of them.

The Polymarket betting started as early as August 19 with 70% chance of the proposition passing. The betting market doesn't care about early and I would say premature polling.

No offense, but I sense you need to celebrate this California proposition. I'm sorry I can't agree it was a great hard-fought victory, but as an olive branch I can say this was a good thing for Gavin Newsom. There is nothing wrong with that. He could be putting as many as five House seats in the Democratic column.
 

WyattEarp

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Consensus and compromise in a democracy, is necessary and does not lead to poor results.
It leads to practical policies that cater to the vast diversity of the country, as opposed to benefitting a few.

Which is a prominent feature of authoritarian and fascist kakistocracies like the United States under Trump.
They are incapable of doing right by people and create political strife which feeds back into the system to enable more authoritarianism while further eroding democratic values.
I sense kakistocracy is your word for November.
 

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I believe the poll you were referencing was before Texas redistricted (August 29) and California followed Texas' legislature concurrently (August 21). Unlike ourselves, most people even Californians aren't following these developments until they are enacted and put in front of them.

The Polymarket betting started as early as August 19 with 70% chance of the proposition passing. The betting market doesn't care about early and I would say premature polling.

No offense, but I sense you need to celebrate this California proposition. I'm sorry I can't agree it was a great hard-fought victory, but as an olive branch I can say this was a good thing for Gavin Newsom. There is nothing wrong with that. He could be putting as many as five House seats in the Democratic column.
Doesn't Texas have more dems registered than GOP?


 
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